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Unfortunately his athleticism and versatility allow him to impact more than just sack numbers

we just learned of Ritchie pleading out on an incident we never heard about. Id imagine plenty can fly under the radar

Honestly, the scaling of getting a case of anything in a stadium is going to look absurd. 24 beers and 8 slices of pizza would be a fortune anywhere in the stadium but split across 20 people, it’s relatively standard issue. Hearing $100k for the suite sounds equally jarring but $5k per person and $500 per person per game isn’t cheap but I bet it’s less than most would expect once reframed. if you picked a full row of decent seats and tracked the spending of 20 people in it all season... well... you figure out real fast how it becomes a $9B industry

I’m not remotely confident there are not stories we were unaware of in buff.

Which is an example of the poor concept. DE is an easy skip with hughes, Shaq, Murphy. None of them make a good hidden gem story and the deep depth isn’t terribly exciting

Weak concept. To do 1 underrated player at every position is poor planning from the get go

Meh, I’m fine with if he wants to show up. I just don’t think it tanks the whole season the miss a couple OTAs. He can can work out with baker any day he wants, regardless of if there’s defense and special teams and guards around too. it can be a symptom of a bigger problem if he’s boycotting any work at all but in a vacuum his 45 minutes playing catch in shorts at 80% while kickers take chip shots and tackles hit dummies doesn’t stress me and never will. If he’s studying the book and working out, this isn’t major drama. Just like it won’t be a big deal for our many guys rehabbing

Im not sure, but I think you might argue our team would be better today if we skipped a practice or two. Did we get good enough in practice to be better than the injury to Kroft? Are superstars the same in the discussion or is it riskier with less reward than a UDFA who may see a bigger learning curve in the session and come at less risk? Is OBJ not incentived to look great week 1? I just dont don’t think a couple hours in May are where the seasons won. For a guy like him it’s a relatively low impact week

I don’t alway but I’m not going to ride a guy for missing some voluntary practices. And I only ask the question because of the assertion he doesn’t care about winning. Clearly posters saying that must think his attendance this week effects wins and losses. But are we talking a game? 3? Maybe a game every few seasons? I think this this is one where fans ride a guy because we crave the opportunity to create a story but think the impact of this move is much more akin to josh Allen stepping out of bounds vs taking a hit 5 yards shy of the market early in a game in September. Does he break two tackles, surprise with a season defining TD and it become a season defining moment? Maybe? It’s possible but I’m 100% on board with him stepping out. Maybe they find an interesting idiosyncrasy they can exploit in a big moment here, but even if it results in an extra catch or two, odds are they aren’t terribly impactful for a guy that’s proven he can do it and will do the work to be ready. We like big storylines. There aren’t many coming out of Memorial Day. So we create them.

so would that mean it’s unlikely that attending this week noticeably changes his ability to contribute but you really don’t like him and are borderline drunk on the culture koolaid?

So how much are you moving the line on their over under based on missing?!? And what do you say about his presence if he, say, breaks his foot?

How many more games would they win with him there this week?

Plenty of coaches worry about plenty of dumb stuff. How impactful do you think a week of voluntary OTAs are for an all pro WR?

It’s always tough. There’s a risk vs reward here that for a guy like him might not actually be worth it. Ankle, knee, hammy or Achilles and he’s scrapped a year. If he attends healthily, how much better is his season? Does he get 1 extra catch? 5? Are they in moments that actually matter? its a little bit like being ok with TJ yeldon fighting for a yard in the first quarter of a September game but maybe josh Allen needs to slide in the same spot. Im not sure.

Bingo. Right and if the package works to our favor we can keep them in it was his point.

I mean, that draft is what happens when you have poor leadership in the scouting department and go over the top drafting for scheme need. Had to get our bob sanders for the cover two and the penetrating DT instead of the head and shoulders BPA

Well, I don’t think beane made him insane. And I don’t even mean that as a joke or derogatory. Dude was legitimately unwell.

It’s also leaked like a day after PFT wrote an article saying all’s good and the owners must have won big if they seem fine giving a little more this time.

To again be fair.... Allen probably should’ve been the starter from the get go. That he was behind peterman, well, we shouldn’t dwell on that example too much.

To be fair our WRs were catastrophic and he’s getting his patience because he was definitely less bad than most of them.

Well, he was certifiably crazy. So there’s that.

I was pointing out that it’s very possible that after treatment and a few weeks rest a mid-30s tight end might feel better than he expected and decide to take the test knowing that if he doesn’t it’s a fail. its also possible he’s gaming the system but this particular player has been pretty excellent dude in the past. This would be more akin to if Kyle Williams changed his mind and got popped than if shawne merriman did is, roughly speaking, my point.

Amd yet, just a couple years ago most top picks weren’t signed yet

Well, the policy continues to test and considers a no show a positive. It does so to avoid exactly this type of situation being a workaround. For a guy his age to end the season injured and retire, to start a treatment and then when feeling better to have the itch to play again doesn’t seem crazy to me. What part of that doesn’t seem plausible to you? The dudes on the NFLPA’s Executive Committee, so he knows the rule and very much that he’d still be tested this offseason. I wasn’t going to play and then I decided to play seems pretty feasible.

Or just taken the penalty and come back? He retired, started treatment outside Nfl rules and while retired got tested. A month later gets a call to come back and while negotiating finds out he failed said test. As guys go, Watson’s pretty standup and I tend to believe him