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the DE vs DT is nothing new. I think consistently an elite edge rusher is still going to command the premium as they are harder to neutralize but then you hit a run of Dat types for exactly the reason you mention. Plus if you collapse inside a qb can’t step up, and also becomes hard to see receivers etc.... and a 330 lbs guy that’s nimble is harder to find than a 270 lbs guy that can run. DTs shooting up correlates to guards becoming more premium and not just space eaters too.

the tweets aren’t all that worrisome til the guy BUYS A PLANE TICKET TO FLY TO BALTIMORE. that’s definitely crossing a line of committing not just 140 characters but serious time and money to confront someone.

He’s a relatively average paid back. Not even break the bank. Would’ve loved the signing last year paired with a rookie. Would have to look at the class but he’s more high end Kenyan Drake than Melvin Gordon contract wise though. Not sure there’s a good comparable in this years group

still a long way til they actually hit the market. Will see at least a few tags or extensions I would imagine his rookie year counts very little given the injury so this year will be weighted heavily in the evaluation.

and I think at least one or both got investigated the team might see a minor fine. As soon as Jerry posted this it was obvious this would happen. We likely never hear any outcome with it being relatively insignificant

you just sound bitter, limeaid

If it came from NY, it should’ve just come in a normal review of the scoring play. The third party involvement was truly bizarre ignore the idea of tossing it to the ref and imagine throwing a lateral across the field of course it’d be handled the same as an offensive lateral

I was at the game, and won’t say I was a hawk about watching EVERY kneel down but pretty consistently did and sit about 30-40 feet from half of them. Admittedly harder to see the other end. all I watched were knelt or bounced in the end zone. The Vikings returner pretty consistently camped on the goal line and let them fly over his head.

which is a perfectly fine commentary on Watson’s play. im not saying we deserved to win or lose based on anything. Or that he played better or worse based on the outcome. I’m saying based on the throw he made his play execution was concerning. if the Hail Mary to the FB in double coverage ended up a TD I’d be thrilled but still concerned about his decision making, as a hypothetical example of evaluating his play instead of his outcomes.

I wouldn’t say suspicious because all I suspect is they wanted a common sense solution to a clumsy, poorly regulated moment that the rule book is not well designed for. it was improper though.

what should be in the rule book? That tossing the ball is the same as kneeling?

disagree and frankly was making this point live in game. people leaned too heavy on outcome and not process in judging his first half. Up 16 points and no catastrophic outcomes with a couple nice highlights was enough for universal praise but there were several concerning plays he got away with. I’m not too proud to take some luck, as even the great ones get lucky bounces. But in evaluating his first half, yea, people were leaning too heavily on result to evaluate the actual play.

And more importantly that evaluating either only says so much about his HC potential

agreed. And my point was that without that bright line act this gets too messy. I’ll sleep fine, cause whatever, I get he was trying to end the play. But it was handled wrong and that sucks.

I still think better than average chance he suffered another concussion during the game, unfortunately hopefully wrong there

the thing not getting enough attention is the D standing strong there. Huge stop at the biggest moment. They messed up some stuff down the stretch but that stop deserves more credit then it has gotten here That first sentence is fantastic.

ultimately, it gets messy if you allow this correction. what if he walks up as if he’s handing it to the ref? What if he then takes off, or a defender gets there before he gets to the ref? Do you say he was clearly walking it to the ref? At what point does the whistle blow on such a play? When he looks at the ref? When he gets kinda close without running? there are specific protocols for a reason. I’m not terribly offended as I do agree his intentions were clear, so there’s a small piece that says “whatever” in the back of my head... But I don’t like one bit that they made the jump to assuming those intentions and adjusting the rules to accommodate. That’s very bad.

though it then rolls over to a replay system not equipped to handle a play like this. ruled a turnover and TD you get reviewed and the turnover is overturned. But is the illegal forward pass able to be called there on review? a totally unrelated football board I read for another team is actually much more slanted towards the refs having blown it.

yup- and you can toss a young guy in to grow in the system. Heaven forbid we end up with 4 solid guys.

Seeing you get here makes me so happy, John.

It certainly effected his play. In fact, more than it should have.

Any chump can create space. Getting 115% talent out of 100% spending is the skill, right?

allens zero TD passes puts him tied for last and behind a WR ? Very few demanding he goes but plenty that needs to be worked on

5 quarters of bend but don’t break does that

I nominate you to do it