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He has a 3m base salary this year and being 37 there aren’t long term commitments left. So claiming him would cost shy of $1m really it’s just a matter of 3rd down in a division playoff game is he better than the last DE. given his age and where we are in the season - I doubt many claims get made from non playoff teams. So it’s not impossible but not holding my breathe

cap barely matters where we are. So the question is would he be better than our last DE for a possible run.

Heck, if he does it in the super bowl I’ll start the gofundme for his statue, but also the thread about qb prospects in the draft. 40 total tds with a few weeks left is great any way you slice it. He’s accounting for more points Himself than some teams total. 17-8 can be a bit more ambiguous but generally trends positive

It’s fair to look at numbers deeper. 25 Tds is good. but Tom Brady’s rushing touchdowns are a lot easier to replace than Lamar Jackson’s I would bet. Or similarly finding a guy to Chuck 30+ a year to pair with a good back putting in 5-10 more is better than a 20-10 qb if you are just vulturing all the RB goal line production sadly, the amazing part is no one else has the last 20 years. It’s not a huge bar to clear.

As with any stat, whether the data is meaningful depends hugely on what question you are trying to answer.

my assumption, without reading ALL the articles is that of course the interview would be done before the game. You take his time and focus before he starts the core of his job, and then catch a few shots in the booth to show him doing what you just spoke about (at least what I imagine- a cheerleader you interview pregame, not dancing on the sideline... but you get a shot of her at the game for a similar piece, right?) ultimately it’s a matter of living in reality and employees doing plenty of dumb stuff without thinking. If the dude got carried away filming B Roll and caught a play call or two, whatever. Send the fine and call it a day. If the guy films 8 minutes of a coordinator, you lay the hammer the quality of the camera, the angle, etc... could complicate it but generally it sounds like a specific and verifiable accusation based on early reports I saw

I agree with much of it but will offer a few points for the sake of someone throwing out counter points here instead of just piling on. 1) the guys an advance scout, right? His job is to be at their next opponent so any coverage of him would by definition come at a suspicious time 2) we project a lot of BBs personality across the organization here. I agree that he’s incredibly detail oriented. I’m not sure he’s involved in mid-season web content on that level. Unless there’s a nefarious use behind the scenes I can’t see him touching it. 3) if you were filming someone and someone called you on getting a shot you couldn’t have, I’d assume you’d offer to delete it. ultimately, if he has the full 8 mins of the sideline I think they get hammered. If they don’t, it’ll be a relative non issue.

right but again you aren’t using solid comparables. the assistant reports to you. The students are under your care. the subject of a documentary film crew isn’t implicitly tasked with monitoring all camera angles at all times while also performing his actual job. The producer of the segment bears responsibility for his crew. If the crew is feeding film back to the pats it becomes a football ops issues. I’m not saying the pats are not guilty. I’m saying some of you seem so worried that they will be found not guilty that you are coming up with relatively weak ways to try to seal off the exits instead of realizing the elephant in the room can’t fit out the door to escape anyway. Fighting to nail up a 2x4 to hold him in isn’t terribly effective. ultimately, the tape will tell the story. It doesn’t matter if the subject was a scout, cheerleader, equipment guy, snow shoveler or accountant. The camera guy either was focused on sideline coaches making calls in a meaningful way or he was filming general B Roll around the stadium and field and only caught the coordinators in passing shots. If the dude zoomed in on the OC all quarter like the bengals employee said the pats will get hit hard. It’d be almost impossible to explain a non-football ops reason to do that. If he was 75% profile shots of the scout working, 20% catching some plays over the scouts shoulder to give a feel for the view he has and like 5% pans of the crowd and maybe 1-2 play calls thinking he was catching cool context shots- it probably won’t go anywhere beyond some fines

right and I’d bet that he knew every player on the field and what he was allowed to do. but that doesn’t mean you know what’s on the principals computer screen while he’s observing you, for instance. theres enough red meat here that latching onto narratives like it being a scout involved as the subject doesn’t need to be important unless/until he’s somehow tied to nefarious behavior. In theory he’s watching the field doing his job.

Really arguing a meaningless point at that level. either they were filming for the scouting department and it was for football operations or they were filming for social media promotions and that a football employee was the subject doesn’t much matter in the realm of it being football ops. And if he’s doing his job watching the game he likely doesn’t know what each possible camera is filming at any given moment

im not sure you’d expect the scout being filmed to also be clearing what are legal camera angles and if they crew are consistently following policy. he’s there to scout the game not police the filming

yea- but they were punished. and if they cheated here they’ll likely be punished. But just because buffet once did it doesn’t mean you throw the book at him without investigation or fair process.

meh- the jets were entering the week 4-8. They should probably keep his touches pretty minimal in December at that point. People already decided who he is and what they think about him.

On day two it’s a pretty reasonable discussion

meh. It’s a bit of a tough point to argue. Would JG beat out Brady on the depth chart based solely on practice reps? not sure anyone would pull that trigger on the 2 seed in December. I’m sure they’d be interested based on his now much more extensive resume, but he wouldn’t have that.

what was the alternative? Brady would have to be gone by now. They couldn’t coexist this long.

yet there’s no early indication of this being at other games... yet.

this posters name checks out, guys

it’s entirely possible we learn more. This far it’s not portrayed that way, but could easily come out.

Not to defend but by nature of following this guy on his job he’s the dude that goes to the next opponents game to scout them, no? like he would be that guy at any time they did it. That’s why I’m surprised the bengals game would be the week they pull that card out of the deck

post of the thread! im picturing the bengals accidentally deleting it instead of sending it. that said, it’ll lend some credibility to the process after the nfl bungled spy gate

The flip side being if their film crew was freelancing legitimately... they’d issue the identical statement. I don’t think the statement itself moves the needle much. Especially given the video existing and being in possession of the league. At this point it’s a matter of what’s on the tape

really not even giving the benefit of the doubt, just looking at context of the available info. Seems they either went to amazing lengths, or dumb lucked into an opportunity that went bad when it happened.

my point was if several of these were filmed in entirety at their own facility that it’d be an odd set up. Again, not saying it means it’s untrue that they did it on purpose- just rather elaborate if planned. it could have easily been an honest series that happened across an opportunity....

https://www.patriots.com/video/do-your-job-equipment-staff how many in the series really give the opportunity though?