NoSaint

looking at Monday night football hosts: saints (X2) - super bowl contender and strong ratings Oakland - I guess could be your point, but needed a west coast team and they had lots of storylines too Jets (x2)- hot pick and biggest market giants - biggest market pitt (x2)- huge national base, expected contender San Fran - currently the #1 seed in nfc Green Bay - clearly not your point rams were in the super bowl seattle- don’t seem to fit vikings - plenty going for them eagles - don’t fit the bill redskins- don’t fit the bill Chargers - I guess to leverage exposure for interest in a host stadium could argued but at this point the premise seems real shaky

add in that our fans have been sloppy for them... I could certainly see there being layers of reasons. i think stadium leverage is low to non-existent. Bobby can say that market size and winning isn’t important but I’d be shocked if he brings much of a list of small market bad teams getting these games and when they are I’d bet there’s a compelling storyline or expectation of quality that went unmet. ESPN/NBC arent picking bad, boring, teams with few fans and they aren’t doing the nfls dirty work. I think occams shaver says we haven’t asked for the attention, and the tv execs haven’t had a reason to force it on us.

I think where we diverge is that you wanted to keep a window open longer. This will be wildly over simplified but what I’m arguing is that there are 2 windows and spending in the first only minimally effects whether the second opens or it’s overall results. if Josh is THE guy, our second window instantly becomes 15 years, with some light cycling through reloading and how well we draft. but you almost never get the $30m in annual cap savings vs his vet deal again. That window is unique and short and you have to take advantage of it faster than most here realize, in my opinion. When we get to that crossroads on josh, I think we’d all much rather have had a parade and put up a trophy. The rams and eagles and bears and chiefs aren’t going to flop because they pushed chips on the table- it’s going to be whether their qbs end up being more Russell Wilson or Colin Kaepernick when that crossroad comes (to use a recent obvious rivalry that diverged) how you build a roster around a rookie deal or a vet deal can, and should, be substantially different

Or he’s young and moving frequently and it’s probably wise to be flexible It’s quite bizarre.

if he wasn’t he’d at least have another year of college education for whatever is next. it’s a tough spot but unless this was by far his best shot at making a roster, kid was likely well served by staying put. It happens though

If he gets hot like he did end of last year it’s a big deal for our potential run. Like huuuuge. likewise if Shaq and Oliver get hot. the two major spots you’d want to see reinforcements are pass catcher and pass rusher. If our inconsistent guys all hit an upswing together our possibilities are near limitless.

maybe your definition of a good team and his are different. Maybe he’s meaning a contender and good-ish might be darn near the same thing you are arguing.

It’s coming sooner than you think. if you like Edmunds, you don’t leave both guys on a 5th year option and only have 1 tag to use that offseason. At least one gets paid earlier.

yup. We are in a 2-3 year window here, followed by a re-tool where we find out if Josh can carry a team. roughly this year and next should be our easiest shot at winning a super bowl because we can so wildly over index on talent. to John asking if he’s GM of the year... I suppose the question is do you think we have a shot and do you think we maximized those odds? id say an outside shot if josh stays hot and we get some bounces. I do think we could have pushed more chips on the table to maximize those odds though. the folks that confused me most all offseason were those that thought we had no chance but loved the regime.

I get why he has to get tossed... but honestly the fact that he gambled only marginally bothers me given he was on IR, and away from the team. one of those is what it is... but also whatever... moments

and frankly, this team doesn’t look like an 11 win team on paper but the thing in the wild card race is a lot of teams look like 7 to 9 win teams and then 1 stays healthy, lucky with opponents and gets some favorable calls and balls dropped in their hands The bounce of the oddly shaped ball is definitely going our way this year. But in the process they are getting to grow a bit too. I’ve long said this could be like the Ravens team that got hot late and won it. i do wish we put more chips on the table though. some weeks this makes me a hater, some weeks a kool aid drinker

the media has been so fast to embrace us so many times. They loved the hot start with fitz. Trent got MVP chatter.

just go for it and go home

it wasn’t a crazy one in real time good chance we get it though

Just have josh fall forward here

while I understand the appeal, rarely does it end well. Even with football games.

it just was clunky she poorly constructed even in the best interpretation was really my point. Gilmores loooong gone and they just spoke about how good white was a few mins earlier.

Reminder it could be worse

kids capable of just about anything you dream up. Will just be a matter of how consistently

Did boomer just pick the Cowboys because stephon Gilmore isn’t playing? I’m assuming a joke but not even close to a good one

though it’s odd he hid this instead of giving a heads up in advance

There may be some tie to the training regiments. We don’t know how they changed. it may also be in part that when you are “in the mix” you don’t shelve guys as quickly

Seems like just the type of thing mark would post if trying not to be figured out

the flip side is it could be a coaching/discipline issue on them committing penalties but it’s pretty darn skewed towards opponents never committing them too. paired with the overturned PI going against them... fans have some feelings going.

i think a lot of fans are so used to thanksgiving meaning you need 9 games to go right to stay alive that they are missing that we are as close to locks as humanly possible and chasing the pats and by proxy potentially home field advantages/byes is probably the better one to root for.