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the salary and role are always where these get dicey. People act like I’m a hater and then say they’d give him like $5m plus incentives to essentially be what he’s been in Nola prior to this.

put another way, if the season ended today, and he was a free agent- no one would be handing him a starting job but all 32 clubs would be glad to have the guy on their roster in some role.

as a saints season ticket holder I’m more invested in his success than anyone here. And like having the guy on the team. he played a good game from a backup qb. but that TD called back was very much underthrown.... and if giving him credit for plays called back can I take off credit for that deep ball where the punter could’ve gotten it there more accurately? Late and behind are common issues he’s had and those were still on display today. wasnt a peterman fan - didn’t think he had the arm no matter what college or pre-season stats were or what a good guy he is enjoyed fitz- didn’t think he or that season with the fast start was sustainable because of skill concerns like taysom a lot as a player, but not as a franchise qb.

he’s consistently been standing back there slow on the reads, and his biggest pass might be the worst throw of the day by any nfl qb. hes grinding out a Tebow-esque game so far. But Tebow won quite a few playing safe with a good defense. And that works for a month here. That TD throw was awful too. the dude heaves some balls downfield though

the drop was ugly but they happen to all qbs. so far it’s about the game I expected. He just happened to hit the wild deep throw so it looks a bit better on paper. But that was My big qualifier- he heaves erratic deep balls that sometimes happen to be caught because it’s hard to defend a deep ball 25 yards off target but with just enough loft for a receiver to see and react to. That Minnesota playoff game had one too.

That deep ball was so bad that it worked atlanta thought they were playing defense not punt coverage

they run hot/cold. When on they can be elite. Averaging like 15 points allowed since start of October. even last year - teddy b got a lot of credit but they beat Dallas without scoring a touchdown during that stretch.

Final prediction: any given Sunday he’s a huge wild card. He’s late on reads, and not terribly accurate. Some weeks will be ugly. But he will occasionally hit the chunk play. Probably a 100-150 yards average kind of guy but occasionally a bigger day. even with small ball this team can win some games.

Either he’s medically cleared or he’s not.

the beauty of the search function, I suppose, though this one might not be obvious

what about mahomes isn’t all of that already?

I won’t say you are are cray cray (more to do with my pride than your sanity)... but of course guys that arent 100% can and do get waived regularly. For all we know he had an unknown cancer that was detected on exam (extreme example) or it’s a matter of the 9ers docs being stricter than the previous team and player, or maybe something the player never reported. no, you can’t cut a dude on IR but there’s plenty of ways a guy could be cut and fail a physical later

The early freak outs were a bit much. He’s going to be a good kicker. im not sure you declare that the kind of pick that makes it a draft of a lifetime based on the low positional/financial value but I’m down for any day 3 pick that contributes as a deserved starter role

happens often to you?

Really running out of new topics to start, eh? I’m glad you aren’t letting it stop you.

though after this week he may get more completions (11 career) than tackles (14 career) so that’ll be a step towards qb!

If I drafted him as a high upside depth pick i would want to play him at his listed position. Should’ve addressed it with the league before the draft of the TE designation was an issue.

until he throws for 72 yards and 2 picks before being benched at halftime with a -5.5 score. jokes aside it’s quite the spot to have this happen just before fantasy playoffs. If he plays well it’s a huge wildcard. why even play that game though? I could see not naming a starter or lying about it but why would you have him take the snap? Principle?

I could see him winning the game, for sure though I’m curious if this wakes Atlanta up a little bit. It’s a rivalry game and to have Hill trotted out might be a little extra “oh hell no we aren’t losing this to taysom hill” as silly as that sounds.

he’s not an average passer and you can no longer be an explosive impact runner once you have to start protecting your shoulder

you knew his role and position all year. He’s always been a potential qb. Got to stay consistent with his position once people draft him knowing the low expected output but high upside

having seen all his snaps...this will be Tebow-esque I think. I just can’t see him as that guy unless the goal is bottom out for the next pick. But you wouldn’t play that game in a playoff race.

high risk high reward.

yup- a class without a 1st won’t often jump off the page, and with a kicker and running back it should be producing impact out of the gate. the problem is fans always project all the guys to make big steps forward and that’s far from given. a solid rotational end, a rotational rb plus kicker and maybe nickel back wouldn’t be the best ever but wouldn’t be an awful batch for day two and on. Any of them regress (especially epenesa) and it gets rough quick though.

im not arguing the value. I think it was a great move. I’m saying I tend to have discussions about the draft class isolated to the players picked vs where they are picked. because it’s the only apples-apples.