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"Agreed, well done! I've never been overly fond of numbers - statistics and averages can be so misleading." Mark Twain: "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."

Yeah, it does have a strange brew about it . . . let's hope it all comes out to the Bills liking in the end. As for Norwood, this is long over due. He was always nothing but class, and lost in "wide right" is the fact he was one of the most reliable kickers in the NFL during his era. I'm sure the Bills fan will give him a moment to remember today.

"I think Fitz should wear the over-sized "Kelso helmet," -- that would be funny

lets hope, but I agree, this offense doesn't scare anyone

run, run, run, and then some run some more . . . that's how you beat their cover guys

the chances to hit him will be limited as he won't really be playing much, but as I said elsewhere, when he's on the field, run right at him--it's like giving us 10 yards

My surprises: David Nelson (love that kid), Brad Smith--if there is any justice in the world, he scores a TD by running over Aaron Maybin, and McGee-pick 6. And, I think the 12th man does get to Sanchez

Last week, Scott Chandler came back from vacation, or something? Marcell Dareus had a breakout game, and the Defense had the game of the season--for them. So, where do you think the unexpected contribution comes from this week?

Good strategy: "I can't think of a better opportunity for Spiller to run between the tackles and past blitzing linebackers" Wrong personnel: let's try Fred Jackson?

Well, that's my point, maybe I overstated it or it got lost in the rambling: I don't like Tebow as aQB, he's awful. So focus on that, many have crossed a line and taken it as open season on all. That's is not necessary, whether it be Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Italians, Western NY'ers, etc.

As a Bills fan and as a committed follower of Jesus Christ - I've been a Youth Pastor for 14 years, and College Professor for the last 11 years, and I'm a lifelong Buffalo BIlls fan--I feel this thread has spun hopelessly out of bounds of what this DB is about. Unfortunately, this thread has gone on and has lasted into, now 20 pages worth of, what is now nothing but unnecessary verbal venom. Regardless of one thoughts about Time Tebow, is this really what this Discussion Board is to be about? Do we really have to go this low and seek to disparage an entire group of people, religious or not, on the back of not liking one person? I say this not because I'm a TT fan. But because the tone and direction of this thread has crossed a line that we don't need to cross in this format. And I would say that for any people group that was being slandered in the way Christians have been in this thread: except for the Jets of course--fire away on them . Granted, we Christains bring much of this on ourselves and I understand why people can look at Christians and think we're silly, obnoxious, arrogant, judgmental, even hateful, etc.-- and I make no excuses for such behavior or attitudes. This presentation of our faith is wrong, no matter where, or to whom, it happens. And, if you have personally been hurt or affected by such behavior, I apologize and ask for your forgiveness on behalf of my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. I can't undo or reverse anything they (I) have done, but I can try to represent our faith in a way that is honoring to it, and to you as a fellow human being. Nonetheless, that being said. I don't think it necessary, nor is this the best format, to have such a conversation. You, and I, have every right to express our opinions of Tim Tebow as a football player, and even on his public actions (that's the price of being a well paid entertainer in our society). [And by the way, I have great respect for Tim Tebow as a person, he has deep convictions, and he is brave in consistently living by those convictions in public--something all of us should strive for--but I also think he is a lousy NFL QB.] But is it helpful or constructive to allow this (and I know this is a strong word, but I think accurate), "hate" to be allowed to continue here. My point is: moderators, maybe it's time to shut this thread down. And in the future, whether it be about TT, Christians, or any person or group of people, I think we should be much more vigilant in not allowing this type of thing to be a part of what is otherwise a fun and entertaining forum to be a part of. My two cents. To those that lead this, thank you for your work with it. It's part of my daily routine to check this wall. I'm personally grateful for your leadership of this place, and for allowing us to exercise our fandom and love for the Bills with fellow Bills fans. It really is add to enjoyment of being a fan. So again, "Thank You!" Also, is there a way I can print or PDF this entire thread so I can use it in my ethics is Sports Ministry class? It would be a great discussion tools in that context, to help them, as future leaders, to have a complete perspective of what people think. GO BILLS!

Although I think it will do nothing more than add a little more fuel to the Bills fire, It is really a Jr. High level insult and direct jab at Chan Gailey and Bills leadership, like: "Look you fools, you couldn't do anything with him, but we're so much better than you, we've made a player out of him." I hope he plays, and I hope he plays a lot. Because every time he's out there the Bills will right at him, and over him. But, in the end, although I loath his methods, Rex is too smart to let that absurdity happen. The only time Maybin will see the field is when he goes out for the coin toss.

if he makes the team better, yes! But where was there any indication this was even an idea/thought?

rockets surgery ... brain science, all the same

Because he's done so little . . . it's time CJ!

10 more from me

Hey, get a Dome maybe we can host a Super Bowl????

Freudian slip, perhaps? "This might be the wild card to this game." Would love to see this be the game where Brad Smith's Wild Card package makes a difference i a big way . . . hoping!

On a serious note: It is always good to know which crew is doing the game, because each has it's tendencies which can be played to, or away from.

Yeah, it would be great to be Chan's agent these days, he is going to get a huge new contract pretty soon.

I think the one that's the most important: Bell, and Williams 2nd

Really don't see any humor in it at all, do you think he was really trying to mock Tim Tebow? He was hurt--that's all. And if he was, well, he would lose the respect of way more people than those who would think it was funny. Now get back to Homeroom.

Bird And by the way, McGee is playing really well since he's back