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This is not a bashing post, but yes, Bell was better than Spiller last pre-season, and in the right situation, I think he will be far more successful than Spiller. Just saying.

old news, and would this be problem? it only makes me like him more . . . now if you throw in a Dolphin cheerleader with her, he would be HOF material in my book.

HOF, I can't disagree with what you're saying about the line. But my question is: What upgrade is out there? If Waters was a good addition, I think someone, Bills or another team, would have snatched him up already. As I pointed out in the thread about Hairston, almost every team in the NFL says they would like to improve their line play. So if Waters is that good, why is he still unemployed? Anyhow, I do agree, if we can improve with an addition, go for it. But in the long haul, drafting good lineman and developing the ones you have, or get, is a far better solution than trying to bottom-feed on the NFL o-lineman free agent pond.

No, the team will be better off with him developing at left guard and Bell developing at left tackle. Consider, for them, and for Hairston, o-lineman take time to develop. We're in a cycle of a lot of younger guys. I see this line as having a lot of potential, IF (notice the big "if"), they continue to develop. Yes, there has been some shuffling lately--coaches have their reasons and methods, they know and see things we don't, I suspect most of it was for motivational purposes--but I think in the end we have the nucleus for a pretty effective line for a long time. If we can add upgrades, go for it, certainly. By the way, it seems like every time NFL Network or the boyz at the four letter network analyze a team, they always seem to say the line needs to improve, especially right tackle. It's not an easy fix. There are no instant cures. The long term solution: Keep working at it, keep developing, and keep looking for potential upgrades. Well. my point: there is room for cautious optimism with this line and with the people we have now (Hairston being one of them). Call me a fool if you must.

Like I said, Kelsey may have got Pipped. Not because Kelsey is that bad, but Carrington just looks strong. I don't care what you call them: DE or OLB, the consensus is, right now,Carrington is the better player.

Ah, yes . . . that's the point of the reference. Actually, Wally had a headache and asked for the day off, so Lou Gehrig stared in his place that day, and the rest is history, 2000+ game starting streak record until Cal Ripkin broke it.

OK, did anyone notice that Kelsey didn't play last evening? Did he just get "Wally Pipp'ed"? I think its time for the Carrington era to begin, he looks good out there. Kelsey is still a reliable player, but I think Carrington has start potential. What say you?

The first defense has been very solid throughout the preseason--even without the starting LB crew always there, and offense finally showed some cohesion and signs of real life last evening (it all starts, and ends, with the online). Ahhhhh . . . . the sky is not falling in, accept for the gallons of rain coming down on me here in PA as I type. Reminding me of Agnes like rainfall, let's hope it does nothing like the damage of it.

I don't get the Pears bashing, so far he has looked pretty solid to me. In the pre-season at least, the Bills seem to be far more effective running to the right side, and I don't recall any major issues with pass protection from his side. If Hairston develops, that would be great, he certainly has the size. And, I do think he played well last night. If he keeps progressing, we might actually have solid depth at RT for long time. Let him and Pears fight it out for the top spot.

In football, it will soon be called "The Maybin Line" when referring to defensive lineman with no career sacks, or maybe the "The Bills Line" in the general futility of first round draft picks.

The Mendoza Line . . . The Mendoza Line is an expression in baseball in the United States, deriving from the name of shortstop Mario Mendoza, whose lifetime batting average is taken to define the threshold of incompetent hitting. Even though Mendoza's career batting average over nine seasons was .215,[1] most often the cutoff point is said to be .200,[2] and, when a position player's batting average falls below that level, the player is said to be below the Mendoza Line. This is often thought of as the offensive threshold below which a player's presence in Major League Baseball cannot be justified, regardless of his defensive abilities. Pitchers are not held to this standard, since their specialized work and infrequent batting requires less hitting competence. The expression has been also extended to other realms to indicate a low-end cut-off point. Origin of the term Mendoza, a flashy defensive player from Chihuahua, Mexico, played for the Pittsburgh Pirates, Seattle Mariners, and Texas Rangers and usually struggled at the plate. Mendoza was known as a sub-.200 hitter whose average frequently fell into the .180 to .190 range during any particular year, even though his career figure reached .215. The "Mendoza Line" was created as a harmless clubhouse joke among friends. "My teammates Tom Paciorek and Bruce Bochte used it to make fun of me," Mendoza said in 2010. "Then they were giving George Brett a hard time because he had a slow start that year, so they told him, 'Hey, man, you're going to sink down below the Mendoza Line if you're not careful.' And then Brett mentioned it to Chris Berman from ESPN, and eventually it spread and became a part of the game." Berman deflects credit back to Brett in popularizing the term. "Mario Mendoza — it's all George Brett," Berman said. "We used it all the time in those 1980s SportsCenters. It was just a humorous way to describe how someone was hitting."[4] Other uses In the movie business, the Mendoza Line is used to describe a movie that earns a per theater average of less than $2,000 over a weekend. For films released by major studios, it costs about $2,000 to create and ship a print to a movie theater, so, taking into account the revenue earned over the whole week, and the share of revenue kept by the movie theater, if a movie earns less than $2,000 in a theater over a weekend, the studio would have been better off never playing the movie in that theater. Similarly, for movies in limited release, earning over $2,000 in a theater is enough to encourage theater owners to continue booking the movie for additional weeks. Films earning below the Mendoza Line therefore tend to disappear quickly from theaters.[5] Wikipedia

One with no injuries to your starters and key back-ups.

Yeah, Missouri . . . the Erie Coummunity College of the midwest

This entire thread started like a car going up the the exit ramp to get on the highway, and only got crazier from there . . . the ghost of Fitzgerald comes back to haunt the board again.

Is this the same source who told us about Meriman getting busted?

Here's what Gailey better understand; Fred Jackson is the heart and sole of this team, if he looses Jackson, he loses his team, and the fans!

"Usually, running backs drafted that high have a pretty decent rookie season, and if they don't, they ain't ever gonna get much better." Let's hope that's not true, we all want to see him develop, and I would say he needs to take a huge step forward this year or he may slowly but surely become the Arron Maybin of the Chan and Buddy era. Like I said, I certainly hope NOT!

The Bills have no need for Pryor - we have Brad Smith, same player, just less character and intelligence, and ability. Just Say No!

I could not find a list of players who will enter the Supplemental Draft, is there anything out there?

Isn't there an pretty solid OT from OSU also going in, I would rather it be used on him if there is any potential. Just found this: Mike Adams 6'8, 308 pounds | Offensive tackle | Ohio State Adams was the Buckeyes' starting left tackle the last two seasons and has 17 career starts. He was a first-team All-Big 10 player last season. As a pro prospect, Adams looks much more like a right tackle who needs to add strength to his frame. He's a long player who, in comparison to other linemen, is lean. In pass protection, Adams is a little stiff moving to his left, especially in his second move. He has optimum length for the position but not the foot quickness. He's shown the ability to anchor on the edge in the run, but isn't a drive blocker. For a tall lineman, he gets good leverage. link

Word was, they looked at Barnett, but he wasn't interested. Go figure, did the BIlls get one over on them?

THAT IS THE POINT! I'm mad as h#@%. If this is true, it is serious problem for the NFL. Hopefully, someone in the Bills organization will raise Holy Hell.

Maybe as a Jet Doesn't he realize he's getting played by Rex? Anyhow, if he does make their team, can't wait to hear the special welcome he gets when he returns to the Ralph.

And Maybin is no where to be found. . . . same old same old