Mr. WEO

After citing the bolded part, you would have Rivers in and Eli out? That doesn't make sense. It's not the Hall of Stats. If it was, Jim Kelly wouldn't be in there. Chargers "not as stable" with Rivers? They had 4 losing seasons in his 14 years of starting. They went to the playoffs 6 times. they went 5-7. When you said "unstable" maybe you meant the Giants, who were a lot more rocky over the course of his career compared to the Chargers---yet they won 2 SB vs far better teams....mainly because of the play of Manning. Post season is huge for HOF--again, see Jim Kelly, Kurt Warner.

He wasn't charged with abusing kids, but sharing pictures of you girls being abused.....scroll up

it says “young girls being abused” in the other pictures. That’s not a few late teen classmates in the shower

Every player is "eligible for the HOF" after 5 years.... Luck had 2 monster seasons. That's about it. Mahomes's numbers are the "mind BOGGLING" ones, by comparison.

I'm sure Guard play will factor into his ratings. Unfortunately, you singled out last season as some sort of aberration for Morse and blamed it on the G's last year. But clearly, his PFF numbers (which you brought to this discussion. to back your point) show a guy an aging lineman is slow steady decline, no matter who has been on either side of him over a 5 year period. So your argument falls flat for obvious reasons and with the data source you have cited.

who would really be missing Daniel Jones? This kid's QB is now Patrick Mahomes. What is this about?

It's always a treat when a poster puts something out there and then tells others to provide the data to prove his point. Strong work. But here are the numbers the past 5 seasons: 61.4, 63.4, 65.8, 66.3, 70.3. Clearly, his play has shown steady decline over this period--it's not a sudden drop in one season because of bad Guard play in 2022. So your argument is nonsense. That's why you would post his PFF grades.

plus, why reiterate in memorium that your franchise's "best player ever" (really....it was 5 great seasons at that) retired 44 years ago (and then slaughtered 2 people in cold blood).

Was looking for Morse's numbers by year. but nevermind. It's all the Guards' fault.....

That's only $2400 a foot on or near the water. In Manhattan, you can pay that much for a 2000 foot 2 bedroom. Not every market is Cheektowaga...

I was asking if Morse's PFF/performance dropped off last year solely because of the guards, as you claimed. Showing me the delta form the year before re: Morse's PFF and that of his previous guards would have been a strong way to demonstrate your point.

they were much better in 2021?

hopefully the stink didn't rub off on McD...

you just did, lol

I mean, that would be crazy, right?? LOL wtf this place. It's a place of honor. OJ has none.

Oh college football! https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37990553/jalen-kitna-enters-portal-child-porn-charges-dropped who would pick up this skell? and how does he get these charges dropped: " two counts of distribution of child exploitation material and three counts of possession of child pornography" to "disorderly conduct"??? " Kitna was arrested Nov. 30 on five felony child pornography charges -- two counts of distribution of child exploitation material and three counts of possession of child pornography -- after police received a tip from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children that a user had distributed an image of child sexual abuse material on Discord, a social media platform. The investigation found Kitna to be the probable owner of the account, which shared two images of young girls being sexually abused. Police say they found three additional images of nude young women on Kitna's phone." Why would the DA plead out this slam dunk??

What was Morse's PFF score in 2021? Who were the star G's around him?

I wouldn't call a meritocracy "ruthless"

kudos for getting 14 pages out of this topic tho....

Foe about an hour maybe...

History proved him quite stoppable. He was mediocre after his 2015 season. In his rookie season, he threw a lot of yards in the first half of the season, then petered out. He threw for only 21 TDs vs 17 ints. They were 0-10 in games where he had a turnover. Lamar Jackson's MVP was far more impressive (WR1 was rookie Marquise Brown).....and people yawn about the guy now.

every QB has a pocket. a point not worth making.

wake me when any of them wins another SB. Breaking news--the future of the SB winning QB is not the statue in the pocket. Although I do admire the balls on you for tossing in Foles, lol. Why did you leave Jeff Hostetler out?? Hang in there.

Better/more valuable than Hyde for sure (even when healthy).