WhitewalkerInPhilly

... Dude, they were chanting "Jew will not replace us." You may find SJW's annoying. I once had one tell me she couldn't understand how I could have friends with different political views. But this is some pretty straight Nazi BS. This has been around a loooooong time, well before this generation of sjw cropped up. Exactly

He's been harsher on Jeff Sessions, a guy he appointed and is angry at because the man made a choice that everyone else said "yep, it's a bad look to have the guy you can hire and fire on a whim to be in charge of investigating you, even if there is no fire"

This is one of the few things I agree with the man on. My wife to be works in the medical field, and has to be extremely careful when it comes to treating people with chronic pain. The problem is, say a law abiding citizen goes in for surgery, or is in an accident. They are legally proscribed opioid for their pain, but the dosage isn't right or runs out too soon. The strict prescription restrictions mean you can't get more. The closest and cheapest replacement, if you are already will to go outside the law, is heroin.

The thing is, I kept hearing about property damage and looting at a protest undoes it's work. In fact, last night I heard plenty of quips about a lack of property damage. So if that logic is in play, how do you not damn the whole side when they start running through a public place with literal torches and literally committing vehicular homicide? How is that even close to equivalent?

Had we gotten a few firsts, aka what capital it to draft him maybe I would entertain that. But no, we sent over a solid, (not spectacular) player for a reject and a 2nd round pick. Gild the turd if you like, but it still reeks in the August heat

On record: No. You traded 2 very promising young players for average at best talent and a 2nd and 3rd round pick. I have seen tanking in the NFL and it is called the Browns. Not only that, if there is going to be a vet cap dump, it's going to be NEXT year. That is two years of floundering for maybe the shot at a magic bullet.

Look, I've seen a bunch of threads closed down. But I am seriously worried. And this is a seasoned Kool Aid drinker talking. Let's not mince words. Gaines and Matthews are a downgrade from Darby and Watkins. Whether or not you think the picks we got in the meanwhile are worth it, let's not kid ourselves, this is a downgrade at both spots. If I was looking at this year and going "ok, we are dumping a lot of vet salary and leveraging our assets to get picks and start anew" I could face that. But the thing is, we can't dump vet salary until next year. Our biggest cap hits will be Clay, Dareus, Hughes, Glenn, Ritchie, TT and Shady, and the times it's anywhere near affordable to cut them loose is 2018. When we have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds. And if there is a purge, that's a lot of capital to take a QB in the top 5. Which, you know, might work out. But I have spoken ill of tanking before. No one is thinking the Browns will do anything. The 'Skins did not prosper by betting the farm on RGIII. All of the 1st and 2nd overall QB picks in the past few years have failed to even get their teams into the playoffs, never mind a championship. Might we get the golden ticket? Maybe. But if this team is a purging of known talent, with an almost certainty of pain this year, for a possible benefit that might, might, yield results in 2019...I don't think i can take that.

I agree with the "if we had Sammy" logic. If we hadn't picked up Boldin, I would have said that it sucked to lose Darby but we had a strong WR group with a nice combo of Watkins-Jones-Matthews. Now...Boldin-Jones-Matthews...with Boldin and Matthews with nothing in 2018 gives be a heart attack

Please don't. To me, this is a separate issue other than the trades themselves

To be fair, he has been a consistent performer for them. Until this off-season he was the best receiver they had. Then they signed Alshon and Torrey Smith and a former 1st round pick finally showed signs of life. So he is disposable

Alright, now that I don't have to be sober and with a moment to calm down... You can look at my signature and know that I was a pessimist on the trade up for Watkins. I hated what we gave up to get him. In hindsight, we could have stood par and gotten OBJ but the Browns didn't do much with the picks so I figured it a wash. But this...it feels like such a waste

I honestly have enjoyed what I've seen from him. I think I might have been ok with it if we hadn't sent Sammy packing but this is a horrible swap

My worry is the fact that 2018 is the year to shed the big salaries. That's when we get big chunks of cap space for cutting Shady, Clay, Taylor and Dareus (post June 1st). If we are trading pieces to get draft picks in 18, it's because a purge is coming then. So that's two years down the tubes I had to laugh at this

I'm with you. I'm usually downing the Kool Aid, but even I'm having trouble swallowing this.

Scheme fit? We better not be trying for a pass longer than 8 yards, with 0 YAC. Zay, Boldin and Matthews are all slot guys. I know Taylor's OVER THE MIDDLE problems have been over stated but this looks like the exact wrong mix to help him.

I usually hate Rodak, but holy hell, we absolutely look worse

People in Philly are going "Ok, seriously, what's wrong with that we don't know about? Because no one trades their #1 CB a month before the season for Jordan Matthews. I mean, he's a contributor, but we are absolutely a better team after this trade" So now we have three slot WR and no one who can stretch the field deep. FML

Jesus, Matthews is the Eagles third best WR. Decent slot guy, but we now have 3 slot receivers!

I go away for 2 hours, and what the hell happens? I am stunned. Floored.

I remember EJ's first half in preseason against the Colts too. I seem to recall Jeff Tuel lighting it up too. Now, to be sure, Trubs looks good. I'll just prefer to see what it looks like Week 1.

Wow, let's talk about overreactions. We are talking about the first *preseason* game. The game opened on 3 for 3 completions to Watkins. When Watkins is open, you hit him. The problem has been that A) he hasn't always been healthy and B) when he has been, teams, wisely, will double team him. Zay and Boldin are there to make sure that when that happens, the opponent pays for it.

This is late, but thank you. I was trying to spot him a learning curve, but in that thread he was really, really bad. I don't mind criticism of Tyrod, but that was pretty flagrant trolling.

Also for a 5th round pick IIRC

I really am worried about that as well, which is why I want us to keep Tyrod in 2018 even if we do draft a QB. I had forgotten about Matt Barkley. People were legitimately thinking that he might go first overall, and almost certainly a first round pick had he declared in 2011. He had a let down in 2012, where he showed the problems that still plague him. The lesson for a lot of players is "if you qualify to be drafted, and you have one fantastic season at QB and there is any doubt you might not have another, you take your chances in the draft"

I've had this rant, but I think it already has passed it's high mark and we are squeezing it to go faster. In the last 10-15 years, partly in the name of player safety and partly in the name of giving more eye popping numbers, we've tightened the rules on what a defense can do. With instant first downs for tugging at 5 yards past the line of scrimmage, large penalties for hits on receivers when they go up to get the ball and flags for breathing on the QB wrong, passing has exploded. You can line up five wide receivers and pray that the 5th worst DB is a bit grabby. Meanwhile, pick plays are rarely called, even though it is definitely offensive PI. As a result, an above average QB can make you a contender for the playoffs every year. We've seen teams so desperate for even average QB play that Brock Osweiler managed a mega deal in Houston. Sam Bradford, who has never made it to the playoffs once in his career, will have made a hundred million dollars. As a result, at least half the league (ourselves included) have been snapping up someone in the first two rounds and praying they work out, even if the college players haven't had time to develop. And half of *those* have flamed out or are desperately stuggling (By my memory, EJ, Geno, Hackenberg, Manziel, Bortles, RGIII, Kaep, Bridgewater, Goff (injury related but still) please mention others I have missed). The NFL keeps snatching up whatever QBs are available. But we aren't going to go back to hard hitting defense. Not with CTE becoming more known.