WhitewalkerInPhilly

Except for the playing fantastic part.

Wow. Low hanging fruit much PFT. That rag is now more of a joke than Bleacher Report between lazy soundbites and Florio playing Brady's skinflute. Look, I've lived in the Philly area for over 5 years now. In my experience, their fans in no way live down to the negative stereotypes that get blasted around. Yes, there are idiots. But we have plenty of those too.

I'm with the first page posters (before this got ready for PPP land) This thread is comedic gold. Please save it.

Do you have a franchise QB in your back pocket? Because, if not, you immensely benefit a rookie by giving a run game that slows up pass rush and sets up play action.

First of all, thank you SDS for trying to keep this on topic. I honestly don't know what to think about the hire. I didn't register the name at all, and I can't remember the teams he was a part of on the NFL. That said I was not high on Dennison when he was hired and my opinion went down from there. Things I like: -a willingness to experiment and creatively use the talent around him - a run first OC. No matter what, it should be the focal point of our offense whether we keep Tyrod or start a rookie Don't like: -a lack of production at the NFL level previously I am ok with going to college level for coordinators

I think we covered this. I should not apply for an OC. I am not sure about this Mike McCoy thinking. I mean, he would be better at running something like Dennison's system than Dennison, but I really don't like Denny's WCO system for our talent.

I kind of expect it either way. Look, we know what Tyrod is. But even arguably some of the most successful rookie QBs from the past few years (Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston, Watson) either didn't start, or struggled in their first year. It's part of the process. Why go for big money with Chase Daniel, or Jay Cutler?

I'll be honest, what I saw of Brisset was pretty ok. Considering he was a third stringer thrown onto an overall awful team, I am ok with putting him into my plan.

There's also some character issue stuff. Bradham got caught bringing a handgun in his carry on. beat me to it

I think I've been pretty consistent. I am not on board with picking up an mediocre schlub when we already have Tyrod. I have a pipe dream of waving our two firsts this year and our first next year in Irsay's face for Luck, but I doubt that will happen. Instead, I expect things will follow this path: A) Tyrod stays on contract through opening FA (We don't waste picks and money on another bridge guy) B) The Bills scour the rookie QB class this offseason (I think this is inevitable. You should always do this) C) On draft day, the Bills pick who they think is the best long term starter, likely trading multiple picks to move up in the 1st. The words "Day One ready" do not need to apply (We have a current starter under contract. Not one without problems, but there is no sense in rushing a product you know is not ready) D) Evaluate the rookie during OTA's. If he absolutely blows you away, cut Tyrod post June 1st to help with the cap. If not, proceed to E E) Training Camp: Make it a true open competition. If our rookie wins, great, cut Tyrod, pick up a cheap vet backup. From what I hear from half the posters here, a wet dish rag can beat out Tyrod If he can't win the spot, Tyrod opens this year. F) Evaluate during the season. If the rookie shows he is ready or Tyrod has a huge skid, bench Taylor and start the rookie G) In 2019 Tyrod's contract is done either way. You have a rookie who is either a bust and we redraft, or we have an heir apparent. H) Trust the Process.

I should also point out, this can majorly backfire for the Rams. One of the reasons I was ok with the Bills not picking up Sammy's option is that OBJ, Mike Evans and Bradin Cooks all will be coming up for contract. All have a much higher production history than Watkins. If I was the Rams, and I were serious about wanting to keep him, I would try to get at least a bridge contract. Maybe a two year deal designed with the expectation that you will rework it in offseason 2019 if things go well, and cut him loose if they don't.

That's where I am on this. I like Watkins, and was devastated when we traded him. He probably does more than the stat sheet shows. But he's not Antonio Brown, AJ Green and Julio Jones good. That's what he'd be getting paid.

Ok. I confess, I admit that I got the picks wrong. My bad. But you completely disregard the thrust of the argument. Is it worth throwing the resources that we would need to get Smith for a marginal upgrade? Your Reliance on an ad hominem attack shows how poor your position is.

I posted this elsewhere, but here is where I see the opportunity. Unless we get my fantasy of trading a bevy of draft picks for Andrew Luck, here is my reasonable prediction of what happens. 1) Dorsey gets hired as our OC 2) Taylor is retained 3) The McBeane duo selects a rookie to be "their guy", and moved heaven and Earth to get him. 4) Open competition in TC. Likely Taylor holds it down, but if not, some team has had a QB emergency, and they can at least clear the books for a token pick. 5) At some point within the season, the rookie takes over 6) Taylor is off the books in 2019, with our dead money rolling over to bid on a new crop of FAs Does that compromise piss off all the fanboys equally, while most of us nodded our heads?

People keep saying that. But, as I went over in that Alex Smith thread, there are some real problems. We don't have the draft capital to get into the top 2 spots, and even if we did, the top 2 QB's taken in the last two years were not supposed to start Week 1 and most didn't. Wentz did, because Philly fleeced Minny by trading Bradford, and his uneven season in 2016 should be a warning. And that was with very high picks. Goff and Trubinsky were tire fires their first years. Cutting Taylor gets dead cap of $8.6 million. Toss that on top of paying a schlub second rater like Smith, Cousins, or Bradford a going rate of $22 million a year on the open market and you are in cap hell. Unless we get my fantasy of trading a bevy of draft picks for Andrew Luck, here is my reasonable prediction of what happens. 1) Dorsey gets hired as our OC 2) Taylor is retained 3) The McBeane duo selects a rookie to be "their guy", and moved heaven and Earth to get him. 4) Open competition in TC. Likely Taylor holds it down, but if not, some team has had a QB emergency, and they can at least clear the books for a token pick. 5) At some point within the season, the rookie takes over 6) Taylor is off the books in 2019, with our dead money rolling over to bid on a new crop of FAs

That sounds like the general overall trend in the NFL right now. Reich got the nod as OC in Philly 2 years ago after being QB coach, and now their QB coach Defillipo is getting buzz as an OC or HC

I'm not shocked if TT is back to start the year. But they absolutely are going to go looking for someone

I know it's reading between the lines, but I think we swoop in on Shula and/or Dorsey. We seem to be intent on building Panthers North, so we might as well.

I can't watch at work. Let me know if anything juicy happens.

We might as well. They fit our philosophy well enough.

So coaching that was good enough to beat the Patriots in Week 1 wasn't good enough to beat the Titans? Dude, I moved to Philly a few years ago. I don't know how many times I have been told that this is Reid's entire trademark: excellent regular season preparation, excellent 1st half planning, but a massive Achilles heel of not making second half adjustments and abandoning of the run game. It's the book on him. You don't get to credit Smith with the benefits he reaped because of it, and spare him from criticism from the downsides.

So...its not ignorance (correctable), just willfull idiocy (not) ANNNNND BLOCKED

Oh god no! Having a diva Pro Bowl CB, the lack of a safety they haven't had most of the year and still won of the division and a coach who's entire hallmark is not running the ball when he should? Lol, you are ridiculous. and it's not JUST the Taylor money, it's paying Smith AND the money for dumping Taylor

Again. I repeat now yet again: Do people understand the cost of bringing in Smith and dumping Taylor? Financial cost. Asset cost. Because it is impossible under the rules to simply swap one for the other without consequences. As for the bolded points: One, it was that USA today shill who predicted four wins. Few in national media have looked dumb by picking on the Bills the last decade. Even if we beat expectations by numerous wins, they could always fall back and say "Well, they didn't make the playoffs, did they?' Two: Again, I ask you what are Kansas City's problems other than Alex Smith. I will again reference you to a list of greater or equal NFL starters. Tell me what they are (other than the obvious Andy Reid problem). I'm waiting.

...I know you are being sarcastic, I just don't know what about.