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As the draft process got closer.. and scouts start nitpicking players I'm not surprised he fell He is a 6'1 pocket passer.. not thickly built.. not extremely mobile.. the NFL is moving towards quarterbacks who can play on rhythm or create.. that's not his game... He also doesn't have a crazy strong arm All of those reasons are things scouts will nitpicked to death.. Jackson dart, is bigger.. better athlete, a stronger arm with solid film ... After the season ended it's all those little things There's not a lot of 6 ft 1 tall pocket passers with limited mobility getting drafted in the first round... Even Baker Mayfield had maneuverability and a cannon

I think Anthony Edwards would have a better chance at being an NFL TE than Randy Moss would at being an NBA 2 guard, but there’s that NBA vs NFL debate again. All these athletes believe they can do anything, to the point of delusion. Jason Williams in an interview once said he was a star QB for Dupont HS, but then I read the comments and people were saying he didn’t even play football 😂 I think Josh Allen even said he could come off the bench in the NBA and get buckets. There’s nothing a professional athlete doesn’t believe he can do… until they legitimately try to cross over into that other sport and see how difficult it is to compete with men who have made it their singular focus. Could Moss have played in the NBA if basketball was his singular focus and where he dedicated all his time? I don’t know, but he would’ve had a legitimate shot. If he didn’t pan out, he’d be one in a long line of “all world” high school AND collegiate stars who couldn’t make the leap.

That's the problem. After 2 2nd round picks got guaranteed contracts, now all want them.

I remember that they would play popular music over the highlights; I specifically remember The Beatles “Lady Madonna” being played. Weird how certain memories just stick like that.

I literally wrote its a bad look. I agree. I doubt this will affect his ability to be a leader in the locker room. If he wins the job and wins game nobody will care. If he scrubs out of the NFL people will look back at the pre-draft dinners and the speeding tickets and say he was a bust waiting to happen. Still stunning a player that multiple teams took to dinner as if he was a first round prospect lasted until the 5th round. Has to be more than just his play on the field. FYI I agree, it's a ludicrous speed but driving through western Ohio and Indiana is as bad as driving though Kansas. I should be a better person but I do enjoy driving fast.

Sure and many criticized that at the time, because public health isn’t a partisan issue. But let’s not pretend the protest gathering compares to the organized, sustained resistance to basic precautions - mask mandates, social distancing, and later, vaccines - that became a defining feature of the political right. Yes, and their distrust was rooted in historical abuse - like the Tuskegee experiment you mentioned. But guess what? Black communities closed the gap in vaccination rates, especially in blue states, once trusted messengers and outreach were in place. Meanwhile, large chunks of the conservative base still clung to YouTube pseudoscience and libertarian Facebook memes. Just look at @Big Blitz who still can't accept that Trump was President when the pandemic started. Would you take medical advice from a guy who told you to drink bleach? Harris said she wouldn’t trust a vaccine pushed solely by Trump without scientific backing - a position that became irrelevant once the vaccines were reviewed and endorsed by the FDA, CDC, and global health experts. And she got vaccinated on camera like every other responsible adult. Why didn't Trump? It dramatically reduced severe illness, hospitalization, and death - especially in the early waves. That’s how vaccines work: not force fields, but firewalls. And pretending they were worthless because they didn’t offer 100% sterilizing immunity is like saying seatbelts are useless because they don’t prevent all injuries. Of course. But we’re talking about state-level outcomes - which correlate overwhelmingly with public health policy, governance, and yes, partisan control. Red states had higher death rates. That’s data you cannot contest. Sure - it was going to hit. But the scale of the tragedy, the number of lives lost, and the chaos we lived through? That wasn’t inevitable. That was policy failure, willful ignorance, and political theater that cost hundreds of thousands of lives unnecessarily.

Can we please tranquilize whatever high horse you continue to ride in on? It's really tiresome. Go outside or something.

And these people have the audacity to wonder why suicide rates are so high - especially among LGBTQ youth. Maybe it has something to do with the relentless cruelty, the manufactured moral panic, the dehumanizing rhetoric broadcast daily like sport. And how does this so-called "pro-life" regime respond? By cutting funding to the very lifeline - literally - the suicide hotline for LGBTQ individuals. They didn’t just look the other way. They reached in and pulled the plug. This isn’t ignorance. It’s intentional harm. And no amount of flag-waving or Bible-quoting changes what that is.

13 rebounds five steals four blocks a game shows he could have been a defensive Stalwart potentially Every team from college to the pros needs a defensive guy especially one who could cover the one and the two.. maybe a smaller 3 His athleticism at the two would still definitely shine through in college especially defensively would translate I don't think anybody is saying he would be a Hall of Fame basketball player... He had enough athleticism and defensive talent to play division 1 basketball though and if he fully focused on basketball who knows what could have happened to his game It's a what if... Because when he stop playing basketball, the guys like Kevin Garnett.. were in the gym 6 hours a day already... Randy wasn't that polished but he had room to grow He wasn't just a Hooper

I totally get if you don’t like the NBA. But to claim they don’t play defense or that the guys from the 90s would beat on these guys is silly. I doubt anyone who dislikes the NBA actually watches the game close enough to even make those comparisons. Yes they definitely have changed the game with the amount of 3s they shoot but that doesn’t translate to a lower skillset.

He rarely, if ever shot J’s. He rarely, if ever, dribbled more than 2 times going to the rack. He was 6’4 and made a living in the paint. Doing this at a time where physical play was allowed. Yes, elite athlete and maybe he could’ve learned how to shoot and dribble. Very slim chance imo. Nothing that he did well in HS to win player of the year translated to the nba except dunking- while being on the receiving end of one of the best passers most fans have ever seen.

I went most years during the drought, mostly because I grew up in Pittsford and my mom still lives there. There was never a problem getting in but there were also a lot more practices. And while I haven't been able to go since they implemented the lottery system, I can't get mad. Season ticket holders, many of whom aren't Johnny-come-lately Bills fans, get first dibs and up to 6 tickets. For sessions that hold 1,000 people, just 167 STH's can drain them all.

One of the best technical jokes this forum has seen in a long time.

Maria McKee has THE voice Love the Bangles version of this song from the Tokyo stories soundtrack

Can BillsHomestainlander tell us about the significance of exceedingly rare arginine codons in the furin cleavage site of covid-19? No? Must be too busy Following The Science (TM)!! Meanwhile back to the thread.

He was Mr basketball in West Virginia twice tho there are five star basketball players whose entire game revolves around being above the rim with zero jumper today But being Mr basketball twice shows he was more than just a football star.. Jason Williams wasn't even Mr basketball twice... Now I'm not saying he better than Jay will, I'm saying it shows he was at the top rung of West Virginia high School basketball... And he was a three sport star athlete and never even committed to basketball fully He had high major division one offers for basketball that alone says anything is possible after 4 years of development

Philip rivers does that spot

Jwill is also his boy. No reason for him to say the opposite. Rodrick Rhodes was also 6’6 and much more physical than Moss. He couldn’t shoot the rock which ended his nba dream after 3 years of riding the pine. Moss played vs terrible comp and was running around dunking on and swatting 6’3 power forwards and stealing the ball from 5’8 guards. He was a 6’4 Center known for playing great interior d (vs bad competition) and finishing in transition. His entire game revolved around being above the rim. No handles. Zero jumper.

I kind of agree. I've gone many (possibly most) years since they moved camp to SJF. Of course up until the last few years, there were more sessions, the Bills were less popular because they weren't good, and it was easy to get tickets. I loved going. The last couple of times I was a bit bored. But, my father is about to turn 101. He and I have enjoyed going together so many times. He's slowing down to where this year, if offered, he may actually accept a ride from the bus to the seating area - we went two years ago and he refused. I'm coming into town from CA for the weekend of 8/1 and I am hoping I can get tickets for the Sunday 8/3 practice. My dad has slowed down considerably over the last year so it's getting to where this could be the last time we go together. As a STH, I think I have a pretty good chance but who knows. Last year I also had only one day that would work for me and it wasn't available by the time my turn came up.

Correct. You have to go full Martok. It's the more sensible choice.

Any list without OJ as #1 is flawed despite what happened afterwards. He was the greatest rb of all time. No other runner. had his blend of power, sped and elusiveness. See the Steelers game where he outran the entire steel curtain in their prime. in terms of Josh. He will undoubtedly probably become #1. But Jim Kelly went to 5 championship games and 4 super bowls. Let’s see how Josh does over time. Kelly also called his own plays and was the best deep thrower in the game which opened up the entire offense for thurmanator. Here is my list. Top 6 are legends regardless of order: 1) OJ 2) Bruce 3) Jim Kelly 4) Josh Allen 5) Thurmanator 6) Andre Reed 7) Joey D 😎Billy Shaw 9) Bisquit 10) Kent Hull 11) Steve Tasker 12) Tom Sestak 13) Fred Smerlas 14) Darrell Talley 15) Joe Ferguson Go Bills!!!!!

Nothing like claiming democracy is at stake and then proposing a (government, no doubt) department to police "facts."

Yes, some people did chose not to, like those who gathered in large crowds during the Summer of 2020. Like the black community who, as aristocrat mentioned, were leery of it because of Tuskegee and because Harris said she wouldn't trust the vaccine. Meanwhile the vaccine didn't prevent you from getting sick or prevent you from giving it to grandma when you visited her like they claimed. And the studies you mention just looked at blue versus red states and didn't analyze who exactly was getting sick. Not everyone in a blue state is a Dem and not everyone in a red state is a Republican. In short, the virus was going to ravage the US no matter who was in Office.