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Genuinely curious: does anyone know of any instances when a boot was actually just precautionary?

He is mostly right, but it is completely logical. Of course that this team is average outside of Allen. Anything else would be weird. There is no team in the league other than the Chiefs consistently drafting so low. And Chiefs apparently don't have better roster too, since if they had, they wouldn't be 6-7 with a HC who many here consider goat and a QB who may be slightly worse this year is still considered as best of his generation. All other teams have at least sometimes or pretty often drafted in top 10, and that is where their top talent mostly comes from. Beane didn't have that opportunity. I am not saying he doesn't have his flaws (he does), but you can't expect this roster outside of Allen be some kind of juggernaut. Or in other words, name a team which (i) pays its QB top 10 money and (ii) didn't pick higher than 25 in past 6 years and has top roster without any flaws. There is none.

You are only reading what you want to see. The points No Matter What made in his post about Pats fans are all things posters on here have said before every game this year. The things NMW posted that he read are not all that giddy or overconfident - they are things people say on here every week about every game. There are many confident, positive posters here that post the same types of things the Pats fans were saying. If you look for the negative, you can certainly find it. But what NMW paraphrased is not a giddy, overconfident bubble of positivity LOL. It’s what every fan base says when their team is on a 10-win roll.

Trying not to be overly pessimistic...but what the hell is going on with this team and mid/late-week injuries? It's ridiculous.

Just don't let Mel talk. 😁 Drop the teams to two minutes per selection, so when some horse's ass of an owner, coach, or GM rambles on too long about their team's great tradition and pride, they get the 'Family Feud' buzzer, and they go to the end of the round. *

Hopefully this means it's a minor injury and the boot is just precautionary.

its the gift that keeps on giving clark

What's the record for the most injuries sustained during practice for a team in one season?

The problem with this line of reasoning that is steadily brought up on this board… Beane acquired and built a roster this summer only to have a good portion of those players go on IR. The injuries started before the season began! It’s hard to blame Beane for not foreseeing injuries.

This team. Arg.

He's probably not reading this board...you can be honest about him.

I think a few Bengals made business decisions throughout the day when Josh was running the ball. Also, was it just me or did it look like Chase should have been able to run down Benford to save the TD and he kind of pulled up. Maybe the TV angle was bad and he wasn't as close as it appeared, but it seemed like he might have been able to catch him if he put the burners on. I think every hit just stings a little more in the cold and snow. But, yeah, props to Josh, Dion, Edwards, and Cook for making that play happen. I don't know if I have ever seen a TD that wide open (at least on a QB run). After the line of scrimmage, Josh had 30 yards of open grass in front of him, with only one defender way down the field, and who had a blocker on him, that blocked him all the way to the end zone.

This is just unreal man.

Benford news is huge. He hasn’t just been playing good, he’s been a star. Best player on defense last month

You selected an arbitrary proprietary way to slice the data to make it the way you want it to seem.

Sure, why not? Since he is now playing well.

I view it differently. We all agree this team is not super talented that can blow away opponents, overcoming mistakes. But they are capable, especially in AFC. The only bad match up is teams that can run the ball on our D consistently. Yes we won against the Ravens but 8 out of 10 we'd lose. Atlanta game and Miami game fall into that category. The other factor is pretty much like Allen and McDermott has been saying: turnovers. Everything stays the same and we just reduce the turnover by 1 or 2 in the Patriots and Texans' game, we'd win. To me, the recent turn of the team's fortune is the result of 1) better run defense, thanks to emergence of Thompson and overall emphasis of run blitz and fits, and 2) the uptick of defensive turnovers offsetting our own turnovers. We have full control of 2) for improvement. The Danger for facing a strong defensive team like the Texans is that those team have better players on D which usually leads to better chances of creating turnovers. I'm willing to bet anything that if the Bills don't allow a team to run all over us, and the offense eliminates turnovers, we can't be beat. Josh/Cook/Kincaid will have a chance to eventually outscore the opponent.

The league does not care about laws of physics they care about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The first law of physics is that you do not talk about physics.

What a depressing press conference, that's grounds for making the QB the GM before you get another Luck situation

Why though? It’s the only football we have between the SB and August.

So the Bills are in the same boat as every other contending team in the NFL right now. Maybe some other teams have some star players, but also massive holes or injuries in other areas. That's just the league this year.

saw this after I posted my comments

Yeah I saw this too and mentioned it in the Pats week thread. Wasn't sure if Cosell was just agreeing with Cowherd since he was led down that path? or if he really feels that way in his heart of hearts. As a viewer I definitely came away from that exchange thinking we have zero chance to win anything unless Allen is Superman. Which is kind of a weird take because off the top of my head, the Bills have wins this year over Jets, Carolina, Pittsburgh, Saints?? where Allen really did not have to do much. Bottom line, the defense seems like they are finding some success and back to getting big turnovers. Plus the rest of the AFC teams have flaws all over the place. I don't think the Bills are that talentless compared to the other AFC expected playoff teams.