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I'm wondering if the 2026 1st round pick was tied up in the offer for Williams?

Bernard is playing like Ellison right now. Same body type as well.

Which is what should have happened years ago but excuses, excuses, excuses…..

Too much merging, mods.

Injuries are the key IMO, but I agree with everything leading to poor performance RN. And agree, McD has had to take over unfortunately. Babich was a poor decision, but hes reluctant to let him go and honestly it makes zero sense at this point of season --- McD will just continue to call it. But I dont think the defense is the reason for us losing. We have serious issues putting up points when needed. We kept this a 16 point game for quite some time and the offense had plenty of chances to score. We even got off the field again at 16-6. Then Josh turns it over. Same story vs Pats and Falcons. Defense couldn't make key stops, but the offense was given plenty of opportunities as well and somehow with an MVP player, we cant consistently move the ball when needed. These are NOT great defenses that we went against, good in Pats and Falcons, but horrivle in Miami. If we had Denvers team, maybe we win 10-7. But its an offensive struggle to move the ball at times right now...that is obvious

That's what I'm saying. If your plan is to wait another three or four years to make a change you'd be better off trading Allen and just giving up. Because it's gonna take a MINIMUM of two years to turn the mess around, and he'll be far less valuable at 32 than 30.

Scheme (or was it GM preference?) also prioritized big bodied physical WRs that can block. Our guys get little to no separation and Brady doesn't scheme much for WRs anyways. We have such little room for error on Offense with long sustained drives and dink and dunk passing. If we're off or have some miscues, we struggle to get chunk plays and explosive TDs (unless Cook breaks one)

Quite possible, but the receiver was completely blanketed and we aren't sure where the receiver was supposed to ultimately go. That said, it's typical of Josh's poor games. When the run game is stuffed, opposing teams just don't fear our current receiving group. There isn't a lot of room in there for Josh to place the ball and he starts making questionable decisions. It is undoubtedly the worst receiving group in the NFL at the moment.

It's both. Brady is not some wünderkind like people made him out to be and the WR room is CLEARLY lacking.

Agree, been saying it for awhile with these coordinators. We can have a lot of debates about McD. One topic I don't think his supporters can debate is he won't hire coaches that want control. Plenty of NFL coaches will let guys come in as experts and take over. The best ones will be required to have this environment to even consider the job. McD won't look at those guys. It's the same as the roster. We would rather promote from within than best man for the job. Our internal farm system of coaches and player development simply isn't good enough when other teams are looking at the entire league and best coach/player available.

in the past, we had the players and the style on O where if we were inconsistent, we could cover over it with some big splash plays. Not anymore. We have to execute all the little stuff at a high level with the style of offense they now want to play.

Josh is about to be 30 (or is). You can’t wait a couple of years to do it.

It seemed we couldn’t establish the running game. The best passing plays were Josh avoiding the rush, scrambling around, avoiding defenders and buying time until he finally finds someone open & completes the pass. That tells me that the actual play calls for both running plays and passing plays were not working all game.

I always liked Nolan more than Ruff. Not popular I know but I did.

In hindsight after today, there are two many roster holes and coaching issues to think getting fleeced for draft picks would have been worth it.

I agree, I do think maybe the ship has sailed with regards to plugging in a new coach and finishing the job. They do not have alot of talent outside of Cook and Josh, a new coach might not get them over the top at this point. That said I believe you aren't winning with McBean so it is time for a change.

One chronic injury and we'll get an andrew luck type exit

I think so. Hasek was the best the NHL had to offer. The Sabres built a ***** team around him and never went for the brass ring. IMO, Allen is the best the NFL has to offer. And each year that passes not only are they not going for the gold, but their roster talent is declining. McDermott=Ruff. Two coaches that are average to above average that greatly benefitted from having the greatest player in their respective sports.

The front office has proven on multiple occasions that their main strategy for winning football games is Josh Allen’s existence. With them refusing to make any moves to give him any support, I wonder if there would be any consideration of letting him run routes and try to maybe throw to himself or possibly start calling the plays. Has he ever played d line?

He’s lost his mojo because Beane won’t put any friggin talent around him to take the pressure off. You don’t trade a 29 year old Josh Allen, you build around him

How i look at it: What's better? To bring back the 10-12 guys who are holding the team back, swim upstream and struggle for a WC and early exit or take the hit with new management for a year, and come back the following much stronger

Brady hasn’t been good. If we are asking, “what is worse Brady or the receivers” it’s the receivers by 8,000 miles. His scheme worked at LSU. It worked at Carolina and it worked last year with bad players. None of the Bills WRs have proven that they can consistently win. Not one has a track record of success. They’re the 32nd best WRs in the league. Brady hasn’t been good but he’s nowhere near the 32nd ranked OC.

On that Int I think Josh's ball placement was poor. He threw the ball inside right into the defender when it should have been outside, in front of the receiver. I watched Stafford execute great ball placement maybe a dozen times today to receivers that were just as well covered. Granted his receiving group is far superior.

One if the main reason you and others voted for maga was the hatred of the devils policies of socialism. And now the great leader becomes a socialist and you have no issue with it, You could have continued that with Harris. You maga guys are so phoney...did you vote for policy or just the love for a king. You are finding out your leader is phoney and afraid to admit it. At least I could say Trudeau was the biggest a?? In Canadian history.

Then by all means, let’s hope our finest federal law enforcement people bring this person to justice. Any thoughts on why they have failed to do so? It was a crime so well-planned as to be unsolvable?