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I don't think the comparison in the original article is very useful. First, 2002 was before the passing game explosion so receiving numbers back then would be lower. Secondly, why compare someone's rookie season to career averages? Third medians are more useful than averages since averages will be more affected by complete busts and injuries. There were 16 WR drafted from #28 to #38 since 2014. Coleman was 11th out of 16 in receptions and 7th out of 11th in 16 in yards. That pretty much put him as average. The issue is that the Bills could have picked two of the players who did much better statistically than him including McConkey who had the best rookie WR season in a long time. Here are the rankings: By receptions 1. Ladd McConkey 2024 82 2. Kelvin Benjamin 2014 73 3. Tee Higgins 2020 67 4. Xavier Worthy 2024 59 5. Deebo Samuel 2019 57 6. Xavier Legette 2024 49 7. Elijah Moore 2021 43 8. Christian Watson 2022 41 9. Michael Pittman 2020 13 10. Rickey Pearsall 2024 31 11. Keon Coleman 2024 29 12. Zay Jones 2017 27 13. Phillip Dorsett 2015 18 14. N'Keal Harry 2018 12 15. Ja'Lynn Polk 2024 12 16. Devin Smith 2015 9 By yards 1. Ladd McConkey 2024 1149 2. Kelvin Benjamin 2014 1008 3. Tee Higgins 2020 908 4. Deebo Samuel 2019 802 5. Xavier Worthy 2024 638 6. Christian Watson 2022 611 7. Keon Coleman 2024 556 8. Elijah Moore 2021 538 9. Michael Pittman 2020 503 10. Xavier Legette 2024 497 11. Rickey Pearsall 2024 400 12. Zay Jones 2017 316 13. Phillip Dorsett 2015 225 14. Devin Smith 2015 115 15. N'Keal Harry 2018 105 16. Ja'Lynn Polk 2024 87 The good thing is that the pre 2024 receivers had an average of 6 more receivers and 75 more yards in their second seasons.

Dirty Dems doing what dirty Dems do:

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No. How you jumped to that conclusion is mind-boggling. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m just pointing out examples of works/products that are out there, easily available and can be consumed at no cost. In some of these cases, it is not considered “stealing”, but they do equate to the viewing of football streams available online where the source of the work/products isn’t paid for by the viewer/user. Audience bootleg recordings of concerts are another example. A really good example is at Chautauqua Institute, where you can literally sit on a porch in a rocking chair and see and listen to concerts in the amphitheater without having to pay for entry into the amphitheater. My point is there are so many of these situations that have led to people having differing opinions of what constitutes stealing.

I mowed the lawn today. Other than that did a whole lot of nothing

Why can’t people just go to a bar, for their weekend excitement- like back in the old days?

Cookie would have been the guy for sure. He too was before my time but feel like it would have passed the sniff test. I tried to limit the guys before my time to the HOFers (OJ, Shaw, Joe D). That’s not ideal but felt it was the fairest way for me. I’m always interested to hear from you guys that have been here from the start.

An issue that approximately one person in the entire country is focused on. Not helping, hurting, or otherwise doing anything to the cause.

If you read the full article it goes into detail. He chose 2002, because that was the time of the modern league re-alignment. He stopped at 2022 because he wanted to make sure draft picks had a sample size of multiple seasons as opposed to your Ladd’s etc. He chose picks 28-35 to get an approximate range of selections starting with pick #28 which was Buffalo’s original selection. This is hardly a predictive science. It just shares how WR’s selected at the end of R1/beginning of R2 have performed. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6328884/2025/05/02/bills-mailbag-brandon-beane-nfl-draft-wr-questions/?source=user_shared_article The Satchel: Much ado about Brandon Beane’s draft, wide receivers, and more

He should do better this season for the simple reason that he was asked to be a deep threat far too much last year — which is not his forte — and he have Moore and Palmers now to stretch the field and let Keon be a shorter threat. His numbers are actually a lot better with short catches and the YAC he can get there.

He wasn’t a first round pick technically…. He was #33 overall or R2 pick #1. I’m with you on improvement - just not sure his potential is as high as what some are hoping for but we’ll see

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TE has been lacking to be sure. You also didn’t have a FB, but if you wanted to include one I’d add Cookie. Braxton was also really good.

I don’t want patriotism boiled down to “look at the tanks lol” Also Ike was Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force. Something Trump couldn’t ever come close to being.

I would just argue that when the general theme of the hyperbole/memes pointed at the right (or MAGA at least) is that they are lesser in intelligence (again, not saying that, but that’s the trope) telling the world that a fireworks show left you speechless isn’t helping the cause.

Yeah, I intentionally left of a TE because it would have had to leave off Thurman or one of those WRs. I just didn’t feel right about it as they were all better players. Warlick would have been my choice even though he was before my time. The Bills haven’t had good TEs in their history.

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I'm not gonna go in circles on this... I have much better things to do. Just as a minor, parting rejoinder, I never said "top of the market"... don't put words in my mouth. As I said upthread, this conversation is pointless unless we discuss actual, real numbers... but there is a deal out there that would satisfy both sides well. Ty Johnson? I like the 3 team, 6 season journeyman as much as anyone. He's an excellent player. He put up nice numbers with his 58 touches last year and it was great of Josh to puff him up like that. James Cook has the highest yards per touch of any NFL back in the last 2 years and possibly even the last 3 years. He has 630 career touches. As ALWAYS @BADOLBILZ, the last word is yours. Enjoy the carousel guys.

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Happy fathers day to everyone I have no kids that I know about lol

He’s a more athletic version of Gabe Davis with better hands… Josh will make it work if Keon stays healthy. I think we’ll see him emerge as a consistent redzone presence this season. I’m going over 6 TDs on the season, feels like 8-9…

Kirby asked for a starting lineup. TEs are usually included.

Frankly I don’t care about yards, I care about TDs, how they happen is secondary, I suspect something around eight TDs for Keon this upcoming season,