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Disagree, a lot of QB's are in that 300 - 400 million range now and some are vocal and some aren't. But what I can say about all of them is that Allen has by far the weakest group of offensive skill players surrounding him. No offense but when you invest 350 million dollars into your QB you best prioritize surrounding him with the best possible talent & coaching. To do anything other then that is football malpractice.

The offensive line losing getting this demolished as much as they did shocked me. Allen's also got to throw the darn ball away too. He was so much better at that last year.

That's the difference Josh feels like he's this underdog cuz he didn't have a high school scholarship But He was a top 10 NFL pick .. would have probably been the number one pick if he came out the year before Everybody saw his talent once he blossomed.. the problem was he was so green it was 50/50 if he was going to be able to correct his flaws Which might I add as a scout still I've always said Josh Allen is eight bad games away from reverting to bad form... He's not guaranteed to be the best player in NFL history he still has a lot to grow.. which is amazing because he is the most talented player I've ever seen He should embrace his dog status.. he's the alpha male of the Wolfpack... Brady's the reverse opposite.. he was actually a pretty big high school recruit.. Michigan a blue blood did offer him a scholarship.. he was a top 20 quarterback recruit... Even though he went there with the nation's number one in the same class which made people doubt him So he was actually touted out of high school.. he was also drafted to the majors in baseball... So Brady's a freak athlete despite his weird frame.. his intangible athleticism which is basically impossible to measure is off the charts.. consistently critiquing and getting better But he used his 198th overall draft pick slot to fuel his flame for 20 years even though he did go to a blue blood college.. Rose bowl MVP Josh technically has the pedigree with his pick and athleticism... He needs to embrace the dog that he had in him when everybody was calling him trash That's the difference everybody hated him and he proved the world wrong and now he's being called the most talented ever Brady was still never called the most talented over Peyton Manning at 30 which made him work harder

Perhaps. At least the wild card path puts the chip back on their shoulder some. Maybe they become road warriors. Josh is typically at his best when everyone thinks he blows and he feels like he has to prove the haters wrong.

WE miss Diggs as a play maker. This may not be popular, but that guy had the knack to get open and give Allen a chance. The same was with Cole. We are missing those guys so badly on this offense. Shakir has also been a BIG disappointment. We paid him money for being a WR and not a catch at scrimmage and try making 5-7 yards (and get lucky once in a while). There were zero slant passes to him to move the chains.

This team is so Jekyll and Hyde. Getting sick of Brady's predictable play calling. Maybe the wild card path is this team's route to the Super Bowl. Winning the division hasn't been working. One good thing about living in Hawaii and watching a game like this is that it ends before 7 pm, which gives me enough time to process everything so I can actually sleep. Time to take several days off from this board. Gonna suck here.

I’d rather them not get in. This team has zero chance to win the Super Bowl

I like the Davis signing and he's a fine #3/4 WR. But IMO there are a lot of WR #1 or 2's that drag that left foot in bounds putting the team at the Houston 3 yard line. Over the course of this season I can't think of one remarkable catch being made by any Bills receiver. Shakir has a couple of great YAC efforts but the amazing toe tap a the sideline or a guy laying out for a pass? Not so much. Actually the best catch by a Bills WR this season was last week when Samuel let a perfectly thrown ball bounce off his chest and he caught the rebound dragging his feet just inside the field of play.

Not the time to bail as this Buffalo team was 6-6 in 2023, and McD fired Ken Dorsey while promoting Joe Brady. I'm not sure what can happen this year. Demote Brady and promote Aaron Kromer? I don't know what the answer is, as all I do know is that teams have figured out how to beat Brady. If that jackass calls another WR screen to Shakir, I'll be tempted to kick my dog. Seriously, it doesn't work against bad teams, so how does this clown think it will work against a #1 defense?

What a great opportunity this season could have been too with the chiefs and Ravens struggling while holding wins over them. Instead we lose to Atlanta, Miami and Houston lol. Such a disappointment

I mean yeah I agree. And my psychoanalysis of Josh, and again these are just my thoughts that many will disagree with, and that’s fine being a public forum…but he’s gonna stay humble and be a good teammate and a good soldier because he’s the guy who was never supposed to be here and he somehow is. And I’m sure in some weird way that is always going to be in the back of his mind. Sometimes we see things spiral and unravel when he makes mistakes and that’s a confidence thing. The only hope for change is that he turns on these guys, and it just isn’t going happen. Josh sometimes feels like he’s happy to be here. Brady was a killer, he was more like F you, I’m the man…you thought I wasn’t, you doubted me, now I’m going to aggressively make you pay for years for doubting me. And his coach was a POS who was out to embarass people week to week by any means necessary. Our guy is a nice guy who claps and our QB is a nice guy who is happy to be here. And while that can have good vibes, it typically doesn’t win. Iron sharpens iron, championship teams push each other to the brink. True leadership sometimes forces you to be the bad guy and that’s where Josh has to get to for this to work. He needs to be a dick, like Brady, like Rodgers, like Mahomes. He kinda needs to call out his teammates and coaches, but instead he blames himself every week. Either that or we need a coach who is a dick who will get the best out of his players. This nice-nice stuff just doesn’t win the majority of the time. Somebody needs to do something to shake things up.

That play sheet is defensive calls Sean McDermott has been our coach for 9 years and has never called one offensive play... Dude we've had four offensive coordinators that he trusts and he's willing to even can them Sure you could say he's pretty bad at picking offensive coordinators ... He certainly is not calling our plays Even sean McDermott is not dumb enough to call a run up the gut on 4th and two lol That is ridiculous.. Josh can change the play anytime he wants.. I wonder if he really wants to get Brady fired Because Peyton Manning would have checked out.. Josh 3 years ago would have checked out... Is he willing to go down with the ship so they get rid of the people ? Again I've never been one to think Josh is ever going to force his way out of Buffalo.. but exposing bad coaching to force them out is different

He was actually hurting the team by not tapping out sooner. At least one or two drives where he was obviously unable to use his right arm, as a RIGHT TACKLE, and Van Demark was available to step in, right? Pretty sure Dawkins was on the field. Not to mention how coaches didn't get him out of there after the first drive when he was hurt (unless RVD was being used and I'm misremembering?). How is that allowed to go on for so long?

😂😂Seems like they come out after losses

You’re talking to an Allen hater.

Then you're going to have to live with results like this the rest of Allen's career. He has fewer years ahead of him at this level than he does behind him, and this style of ball has never worked. I don't see any way it which it's suddenly going to lead to a championship as he ages into his 30s and loses the ability to scramble at a world class level, extend plays by dodging defenders in the backfield, and eventually a loss of arm strength. It's possible these things are already happening. If Allen can only win "his way". Then he'll join guys like Warren Moon, Dan Marino, and Philip Rivers who always gave their team a shot, put up gawdy numbers, but ultimately were never really threats to win it all. I sure hope he figures out how to play championship football instead.

Because the Bills committed offensive pass interference. It was flagged and had Allen hit him it would not have counted and we would have faced a 4th & 16. KC has an extra SB win and an extra SB appearance because of the great play of their defense in the playoffs over the years. That is what real complimentary football looks like.

Completely agree on that one play. And I don’t advocate him taking snaps from Davis. Gabe almost mossed Stingley in a huge moment of his foot comes in a foot more inside. Shavers had a great game by our standards last week. Nothing this week. Can JA salvage the back shoulder throw with Keon? They throw it because it’s a chunk play against pressure instead of constant tunnel screens.

It's true otherwise they wouldn't have posted that. More reason to fire McD after the season is over if we don't reach AFC Title game. We're not gonna reach it though. He should be gone. Not sure if upper management has the balls to fire him.

I thought this team doesn't have any talent according to people? It's Josh Allen and 51 bums He should at least get on the bums I want to see fire

I think the All-22 on this one is going to show an offensive line that was giving up pressure very quickly (especially the RT), and WR not getting open down field against sticky coverage. Definitely not getting open in time where Allen could throw it down field before he was pressured. Maybe we should have run more, idk. Houston seemed to be for the most part shutting that down as well. I think basically all of Allen's completed passes (except maybe one to Davis?) were less than 10 yards in the air. So actually he only took the easy plays, and for the most part Houston shut those down too. The heroics were a great player trying to manufacture something out of nothing. Basically the same thing that happened in the second half of the Dolphins game. This offense is broken, and I don't think it's really on the QB (who coming into this game was top 5 in basically every normal stat and fancy efficiency stat and is the reigning MVP).

Nah not buying this And neither are the players tbh. Pry sure the vets stopped listening to the messaging after 13 seconds. They'll win games on talent and because they're professionals but until we get rid of McDermott there's a hard cap on the whole operation

You can want that all you want but that’s not who Allen is. Allen did a few times take what the defense gave him. It lead to punts. They aren’t going to march 80 yards down the field 2 yards at a time.

Watched from the stands in Atlanta. Nobody could get open. Play calling was trash. We are done. See y’all next year

There was a 1st half play when the Bills were backed up against their own end zone and Allen connected with a 22 yard pass to Davis on 2nd & 10 at the 5. On that play, Allen threw the ball BEFORE Davis had stopped and turned back to make the catch. It was a nice throw and routine play by the WR who drove the single coverage guy back with an aggressive push downfield before coming back to the ball. It was clear to me that Allen would not have trusted Coleman to make the read that Davis did, to push hard downfield and then stop and come back to the ball. This is why Coleman is not on the field.