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You could see Torrence thinking “when the f*** is he going to let me speak?”

So you’re no buying the Joshua Palmer hype? 😂

We just wanted you to bake a cake. You will be made to care.

For me, if we're talking about their objective stats and measurables-based data that teams around the league pay for, they're always good: what plays teams run out of different sets, how often they run them and what their success percentage is, how open a receiver is etc. If we're talking about their player grades, they're always variable in quality - there's an element of subjectivity and assumed knowledge If we're talking about their lists of "10 best QB" or "10 best coaches" or whatever, I think they're written to generate controversy and clicks. If we're talking about Sam Monson saying Brandon Beane is the most sensitive GM in the league because he supposedly called PFF to complain about how the Matt Kalil free agent signing by the Panthers in 2017 was graded, Beane wasn't GM of the Panthers at the time, Dave Gettleman neither had cancer nor was on leave, Marty Hurney was not in the Panthers building, and there's no evidence that Beane was filling a GM role. So if he did ring up PFF and B word, it was very likely at the behest of Gettleman. And since PFF is supposedly objective and analytics-driven in their grades (that's how they market themselves) it would actually reflect very badly on them if they changed their system because 1 GM rang up and complained Beane may or may not be the most sensitive GM in the league based on his interview on WGR or other factors; my take is that there are plenty of big and sensitive egos in FOs of teams around the league and I doubt Monson is really keeping some kind of objective tally. If some other GMs aren't more sensitive than Beane, maybe they should be (I have certain candidates in mind, but I digress). Beane took a metric ton of crap and mockery for drafting Josh Allen instead of Josh Rosen or even Mason "the Reindeer" Rudolph and he was right. Beane took a metric ton of crap for trading Diggs when we had no #1 WR last year and came out with the top-scoring offense (and shed all of Diggs cap in 1 year). I don't forget that Beane got us into cap hell between Diggs new contract and signing Von Miller etc, or that Beane under-invested in WR in the draft-and-develop pipeline, but I think he's entitled to a bit of saltiness with the local press.

Yeah, this was no accident. The place does look great though, and if the seats can hold Dion then I think the average Bills fan will be OK. I have to wonder if that part was in direct response to the common question out there about seat size. .

This is a 100% politics-free forum. If you can't keep it to the Bills, then keep it to yourself please.

Don’t know anything about them. How much were the Fortons/their in-laws worth back in, say, 2014?

Love or hate death metal (I don't really listen to it), but Cannibal Corpse is legendary in the heavy music scene. Alex Webster is a/the golden standard for death metal bass. Hammer Smashed Face has possibly the heaviest riff ever. I only recently discovered King Buffalo and totally dig their music, but they are from Rochester.

Channel 7 needs to feature this game on the Highmark memories special

Trump has been linked to Epstein since the 90s and Epstein was frequenting Mar A Largo. Trump is the one who barred Epstein for his behavior at the club. Trump flying with Epstein, unless it was to the island, means nothing.

I was at that game...it was electrifying. That team was GREAT (difference makers all over the field), and that whole season was magical, right up until the last few seconds, of course. But I always laugh watching that clip. It literally looks like Gary Kubiak (the holder for the FG) dies on the field chasing after Bennett (no disrespect to Damar). See :21 to :26 seconds into the video. 😄

No argument that the Kalil signing was a Bad Move in retrospect. They got 16 games out of a 4 year contract before he went on IR and was subsequently released. Your account of the Gettleman/Hurney succession at GM and Gettleman's cancer doesn't match public record however: 1) Gettleman was fired by the Panthers in July 2017 2) Hurney was hired as interim GM to replace Gettleman in July 2017 3) Beane was gone to the Bills by that time 4) Gettleman was hired by the Giants in Dec 2017 5) Gettleman was diagnosed with cancer (lymphoma) sometime in late May/early June 2018 There's nothing to be found on the Google machine indicating that Gettleman had cancer in Spring of 2017, or was on any sort of leave as GM, or that Hurney was actually brought in that Spring prior to his July 2017 hiring, or that Beane had taken over as GM for a non-cancerous Gettleman who was not on leave.

See below about “banning books.” No one is doing that or erasing black history. Purging illegals and dead people is bad? Yeah, banning based on the author’s beliefs is totally legit. Removing sexually explicit material in children’s libraries is terrible.

Man, those enormous arms and the tiny little hard hat - almost AI looking!

But yes, I am familiar with Terry, his relationship with the Fortons, and Fortons in laws that are Terry's business partners. Terry is a geologist by trade.

You think Trump wanted Elon to tell people he was on the Epstein list? That seems a little much for a fabricated feud.

To be fair - they all failed to sustain in the end... Are we really any different?

And there just so happened to be a camera crew too?!?!... idk man, i beginning to think this was staged. Men don't notice anything

Some of you guys act like this is fantasy football. It is much more complicated for real teams and there is always context. Do you not remember that because of the Stefon Diggs trade and because we kicked the can down the road a bit to try and keep the team together over the previous few years (because we were close), the Bills were 41 million over the cap at the start of the 2024 offseason? How many great players did you expect the Bills to bring in under those circumstances? Everyone knew it was going to be a tight year without the ability to add any big names or whatever (while having to release/trade some mainstay players as well). The Bills decided to take the hit of the Diggs trade all last year, which severely strapped them in 2024 (but made things easier in 2025). Yet, they still won 13 games and made it to the AFC Championship in what was supposed to be a down/rebuild year because of lack of funds and aging veterans. So, yes, 2024 does not appear to have been a great offseason, but there is a reason for it. Plus, I would say that Mack Hollins, Keon (before the injury), Curtis Samuel (at the end of the year), Amari Cooper (sporadically), D. Carter (was coming on before his injury), and Ray Davis (631 yards and 6 TDs) were all contributors. And I think you could safely say that at least Hollins and Davis made an impact. They had 11 TDs combined last season (and did much more than just scoring). Many teams can't maintain success through the inevitable reset year(s), but the Bills did. Almost seems like Beane and McD should get praise for that, not derision.

Well, it's in Jersey.

Yeah, he wired all $1.4 billion of it. But I was referring to where he got that money to begin with. He didn’t inherit it.

Why did my mind immediately go to ESPN here?