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That Sauce Gardiner trade is looking really bad right now.

You are right, I do know know what River's workout regime looks like, and I do not know the details of NFL conditioning programs. But I do see another former NFL QB of a similar vintage at my gym most days. He's not doing anything different than any of us other 40-somethings; just doing his own thing to stay in shape. I can't imagine Josh Allen or Aaron Rogers does anything in the gym without the eyes of a very experienced trainer with a very prescriptive program to get them through at 60-minute NFL game each week.

Cray, I hear you, but just as a point in detail, and not for team, but just for example purposes… If you ask me do I want to play in January the KC Chiefs, Houston or New England I am taking the Chiefs without even blinking. Because I don’t think this is a “don’t poke the bear” moment. I think there is something wrong with them. and I know, first hand, that Houston can beat us with their backup QB, throw our QB to the ground, and also the Pats just plain aren’t imploding after 10 or so straight weeks. I can’t go by the memory of what someone once did. You gotta be prepared for what’s ahead.

you humps are ALL effing wrong...at his best only half as good as Ertz...and if he doenst develop some pass-catching skills we can always move him to safety.

To me it would first require bills win the division over the patriots. So bills win out, and pats lose to buffalo and miami (i think this works or is close, but don't quote me). I'd also say that it would require that the rams finish a WC, and ideally with a worse record than Buffalo at 13-4. If that happened - Odd's aren't bad that buffalo is 1 in the conference (maybe 2 if denver tops in tiebreakers). And I would think Allen would have had a great stretch of games to get the team there.

How can we spend so much draft capital on our D and still have it suspect every year?.........and don't even get me started on our WR's. We've had many opportunities to hit the talent pool on both sides of the ball and always go with the mediocre, middle of the road option. UGH

If the Bills play houston again, I think Joe Brady will have learned his lesson on islanding his tackles as often as he did

personally i think Ty Johnson is just as good of a runner. He's almost 5 yards a carry this year and like 5.2 last year. Ty's 40yd time was significantly faster than Cook's combine time, doesn't fumble, better blocker, equally good receiver. I'm glad we have them both, but honestly I trust Ty with the ball running in traffic, he's not fumbling.

Depends what you mean by ceiling. If you're talking about in the passing game, I think he's kind of hit his ceiling already. He's far too elite and important as a blocking Tight End (which is what we Drafted him for) to have him abandoning that for routes and/or designed pass plays much more than he already is doing. He's a better Lee Smith or Quintin Morris. A guy that's primarily going to pass and run block for you at a high level, but will sneak a route or come off a block and get open to catch the occasional pass. I wouldn't expect to see him be a primary part of the passing game.

Agreed on Pitt. Baltimore and Houston on the road are a bit trickier. Neither scare me, but we don’t match up great with either.

it's an indictment of the whole FO. it should be apparent at this point McDermott foolishly wanted to play ball control and Beane foolishly shopped accordingly. and now that it's crunch time we see that as per usual the only path to a super bowl, in the easiest AFC probably ever, is going to be Allen going nuclear for 2+months they failed. point blank. maybe allen can rescue them...w this roster i doubt it. it would be one of the greatest quarterbacking feats in nfl history. but make no mistake- the second they start to feel one of these must win games slipping away you will see them immediately abandon their plan and go to Allen.

And the academy award for best script goes to... @boyst

I think, from his comments and how he has acted, he isnt happy with Beane and the talent on this roster. He knows what he has with Josh, Cook and the OL. He also knows we need help talent wise to get over the top

He's probably renting at this stage of his career, so maybe 8 feet? Unless it's a really old place or pehaps newer or contemporary then maybe 16 feet tops.

Beane cant draft on day two.

Ceiling is Jason Peters.

Now you’re stepping on teef’s toes.

I don’t know but he is my favorite

Is being elite the criteria we are going by? You think the Bills are elite? What team in the AFC is elite? I'm not going to minimize the Patriots win vs the Bills or any other team. Your same argument can be applied to the Bills or any other team. When you play poorly it's hard to win. There's no guarantee that a team will play well or poorly.

Just a few examples: late first to third round All-pro or emerging receivers: 2019 DK Metcalf(2nd, #64) 2020. Brandon Aiyuk(1st, #25) 2021 Nico Collins (third, #89) 2022 George Pickens (2nd, #52) 2023 Zay Flowers (1st, 22) Trying to say you have to pick top 10 is garbage. Sure does help, but know what you need, have the right scouts and system in place, and top 10 is not necessary once you have Josh Allen. I'm tired of the late route picking excuse. We are an established winning franchise. Some years, yes, you need extra picks because of roster turnover. Other years you trade away picks to move up and get that one difference maker. Like the Chiefs did in the 2017 draft when they moved to 10 from 27. Shaw, you talk about Elam and Coleman, and rightly so. Neither one has the brainpower, Coleman doesn't have the speed and Elam just wasn't a good fit for our system. That's a failure of our evaluation system. Hopefully they fix that. Get the people in who can get it right. Honestly, Coleman feels like they just picked him because Josh liked him, lol.

Considering that the current Sabres are once again a skating disaster, here is a pic of Van Miller and the French Connection to cheer you up.

The Democrats really stepped in it.

An eventual Dawson Knox replacement.

Anyone remember Butch "shake rattle and" Rolle... guy was a 3rd tight end touch down maker... cause he got lost in coverage... so Hawes.. who incidentally I love... beast as a blocker and is reliable at catching the ball.. his ceiling... until he starts drawing coverage like a Kincaid or Knox I just dont know how he will perform... he is a nice surprise for us... but can he split and run a route in coverage... we will see... what we do have is a great blocking tight end that can be an under the radar receiving threat... if we can polish up his blocking and keep him in a place where he can be receiving threat that teams need to account for I think his contribution is past what his stats will ever say because that in and of itself will create mismatches and openings for others... His ceiling... he reminds me a lot of Mark Bavaro