DaBills51 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Sometimes I think that Bills fans are the worst behaved fans in the league. Disgusting if this is true. While I agree that the act is disgusting, one person doesn't represent the entire Bill's fan base. With presumably over a million Bills fans in WNY, the action of this one psycho is a freak occurence and nothing more. If the players assume that one person's actions speak for Bills fans everywhere then they need to come back to reality. For a true representation of Buffalo Bills fans look to those who welcomed Scott Norwood back with open arms at City Hall or the fans who gave the 07 Bills a standing ovation after the Monday night loss to Dallas. Hopefully these are the Bills fans that will be in attendance on Sunday, cheering on Leodis before he takes the opening kick to the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Vandalize your own house, like any other good Bills fan. Exactly. Or just go to bed and worry about something that really affects your life instead of flipping out over multi-million dollar athletes playing a game for your entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 No, you wouldn't. More Internet muscles. Go TP a house and catch a bullet for your troubles. If I see a bunch of guys running around my house passing near all my windows at night, I'm not going outside to give them a sophomoric wedgie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 McKelvin's house? that's what I was thinkin' and it would not be funny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 what a disgrace - an utter disgrace! That's even more of a disgrace than the loss. Never thought I'd say that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 What I wanna know is how you already know it was TPed JR??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 More Internet muscles. Go TP a house and catch a bullet for your troubles. If I see a bunch of guys running around my house passing near all my windows at night, I'm not going outside to give them a sophomoric wedgie. Then you go to jail. You cannot shoot someone for being on your property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 No, I would say that to your face. Taking vandalism as a juvenile prank that should be laughed off is idiotic. Especially when it's targeted at guys who have to worry about nut cases being violent. Toilet papering may just be the first step. Steely, you would quiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keander Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Seems to be a common problem the world over. Highly paid English Premiership players from Liverpool and Machester were getting their homes burgled when they were on Champions League duty in Europe. This sounds more like a disgruntled A-hole who can't hold his liqour rather than organised crime. There is no place for this in society regardless of the age of the 'criminal' imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt-05 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Then you go to jail. You cannot shoot someone for being on your property. Its the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 If this happened in Western NY whoever the heck did that should be really ashamed of themselves. I would think Bills fans would have more respect for their players than that. Its ridiculous that someone would take their anger in losing to that level. Its a game folks, these players are people just like you and me and they deserve to have their public and private lives separate. I really hope whoever did this was not a member of TBD. Absolutely agree ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I'm disappointed if a Bills fan did this. I don't think any fan would, we love our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 No, you wouldn't. Thanks for telling me what I would or wouldn't do. I guess you somehow feel more manly by trying to make yourself look like an internet toughie. Not cool or funny at all. Thanks some people here don't get it at all. Yeah...toilet papering is a gateway crime...give me a break Are you a high profile target? Do you have to worry about others in your profession getting killed or targeted because of who they are. How many nutjobs do you have to worry about in your life. If somebody has a stalker and they come out and find their house TP'd I think they wouldn't find it really funny and just "laugh it off" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd and One Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Vandalize your own house, like any other good Bills fan. It happens every time a loss like this happens lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Ok, stop with the personal attacks all of you or I'll close this thread and you can do it elsewhere. I'm sick of this crap in every thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Then you go to jail. You cannot shoot someone for being on your property. Since when? Happens all the time and law-abiding homeowners who are protecting themselves from scumbags don't go to jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Steely, you would quiver No, I'd be enthralled by the stories from the most "interesting" man in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 No, I would say that to your face. Taking vandalism as a juvenile prank that should be laughed off is idiotic. Especially when it's targeted at guys who have to worry about nut cases being violent. Toilet papering may just be the first step. You don't think that the "safety issue" is caused by a bunch of other dynamics that has been playing out in the league especially the last few decades (ie: extreme wealth coupled with intense fame, etc.. etc..)... The problem is that these players are living lives that are nothing like the average fams that financially support their livelyhood. Classic rich/fame vs. people making a ton less... Disparity. Don't get me wrong, I AM NOT CONDONING THIS ACT. The league and the fans made this beast. You know what the number one crimes were during the height of the Great Depression?... Bank robbing and kidnapping rich folk. Try not to burn a fuse figuring it out... You won't... Please... I don't mind if you slam me... Just do it intelligently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 how embarrasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 This is coming from Kawika Mitchell: Ka_Mitchell55:A teammate of ours had his house vandalized last nite or this morn. Its def not a game to b playin. W/ all the safety issues n the NFL...its not funny at all. We have Fam at our homes to protect. If u show ur face on my prop Ill make sure I do everythin to keep my...Fam safe. So dont come around thinkin, oh we'll just leave a message on his lawn or wall, b/c Im goin to take it as a threat. Its my...job to protect my home as it is the job of all home owners. Dont push the limit. It's even more disturbing that Mitchell typed this himself. Isn't he a college grad? I know its only South Florida but damn. Are they actually teaching illiteracy in school these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt-05 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Since when? Happens all the time and law-abiding homeowners who are protecting themselves from scumbags don't go to jail. If it happens all the time I'd like to see a link to a story. Because I find it hard to believe if someone was TPing my house and I walked outside and shot the kid in the head, I'd get a pat on the back from the cops. To use deadly force to protect yourself, your family, or another person, there has to be a reasonable threat to said life. A roll of toilet paper hardly applies in this situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 You take things sooooo seriously. And I dig that about you...moron I'm sorry. What did you mean by that? I guess I missed it. You don't think that the "safety issue" is caused by a bunch of other dynamics that has been playing out in the league especially the last few decades (ie: extreme wealth coupled with intense fame, etc.. etc..)... The problem is that these players are living lives that are nothing like the average fams that financially support their livelyhood. Classic rich/fame vs. people making a ton less... Disparity. Don't get me wrong, I AM NOT CONDONING THIS ACT. The league and the fans made this beast. You know what the number one crimes were during the height of the Great Depression?... Bank robbing and kidnapping rich folk. Try not to burn a fuse figuring it out... You won't... Please... I don't mind if you slam me... Just do it intelligently. Why did you bother writing anything after that. The "safety issue" does exist. You agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 It's even more disturbing that Mitchell typed this himself. Isn't he a college grad? I know its only South Florida but damn. Are they actually teaching illiteracy in school these days? it was on twitter so you can't really use much grammar...in his defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 It's even more disturbing that Mitchell typed this himself. Isn't he a college grad? I know its only South Florida but damn. Are they actually teaching illiteracy in school these days? I think it's a space to write thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 What makes you think it was a Bills fan who did it? http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...t=0&start=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 It is. First you start with single ply; then double ply; and then one day it's throwing eggs, and a mother has lost her son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBills51 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Are you a high profile target? Do you have to worry about others in your profession getting killed or targeted because of who they are. How many nutjobs do you have to worry about in your life. If somebody has a stalker and they come out and find their house TP'd I think they wouldn't find it really funny and just "laugh it off" Steely, while I do feel for the player this happened to, I would like you to name a player besides Sean Taylor who was murdered in a burglary attempt over the past 20 years. As far as I can recall Sean Taylor is the only one on the list...I may be wrong however. Now on the other hand, take a look at the number of homicides due to burglary in the East Side of Buffalo...those people have to worry. I lived on Bailey for over a year and was robbed twice, whereas many of these players live in upscale, low crime neighborhoods, and are in no more danger than the average citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...t=0&start=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guava Kai Buffalo Soljahs Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Who cares if Mitchell wrote that message with grammatical errors. I am utterly speechless in hearing that one of the players houses got vandalized. It is hard enough that we lost a tough one yesterday but to me, the thought of a players house getting vandalized because of it is much harder to stomach. I do hope they catch the guy but it still wont take away what happened. And to the guy who did it, thanks for giving the rest of the league another reason to look down at our organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Steely, while I do feel for the player this happened to, I would like you to name a player besides Sean Taylor who was murdered in a burglary attempt over the past 20 years. As far as I can recall Sean Taylor is the only one on the list...I may be wrong however. Now on the other hand, take a look at the number of homicides due to burglary in the East Side of Buffalo...those people have to worry. I lived on Bailey for over a year and was robbed twice, whereas many of these players live in upscale, low crime neighborhoods, and are in no more danger than the average citizen. The point is the house was apparently vandalized after the Bills lost a game, does that sound like its ok? I know no one was murdered, but does that mean we should laugh it off until it happens again? The problem is people have no respect for anyone else anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Steely, while I do feel for the player this happened to, I would like you to name a player besides Sean Taylor who was murdered in a burglary attempt over the past 20 years. As far as I can recall Sean Taylor is the only one on the list...I may be wrong however. Now on the other hand, take a look at the number of homicides due to burglary in the East Side of Buffalo...those people have to worry. I lived on Bailey for over a year and was robbed twice, whereas many of these players live in upscale, low crime neighborhoods, and are in no more danger than the average citizen. he wasn't murdered, but wasn't Will Allen doused with gasoline and threatened with a lighter in a robbery attempt a few years ago? Darrent Williams was murdered a couple of years ago. Granted, it wasn't a robbery attempt, but these guys are clearly targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Steely, while I do feel for the player this happened to, I would like you to name a player besides Sean Taylor who was murdered in a burglary attempt over the past 20 years. As far as I can recall Sean Taylor is the only one on the list...I may be wrong however. Now on the other hand, take a look at the number of homicides due to burglary in the East Side of Buffalo...those people have to worry. I lived on Bailey for over a year and was robbed twice, whereas many of these players live in upscale, low crime neighborhoods, and are in no more danger than the average citizen. I assure you that a lot of players don't care about the past beyond the Sean Taylor thing. It's a simple question. If you were in his position, say it's McKelvin, and you came home after a bigtime play that led to to the loss of the game would you feel completely sure it was a one time prank? Plaxico Burress was shot in the leg by a moron. (I know he shot himself. That's the joke.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 It's even more disturbing that Mitchell typed this himself. Isn't he a college grad? I know its only South Florida but damn. Are they actually teaching illiteracy in school these days? Professor Ali G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBills51 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 The point is the house was apparently vandalized after the Bills lost a game, does that sound like its ok? I know no one was murdered, but does that mean we should laugh it off until it happens again? The problem is people have no respect for anyone else anymore. Im not condoning the actions of the psycho who did this...look at my first post on the matter. I was just saying that players are not in any more danger than those not in the public spotlight. Sadly, this is what has happened to athletes/entertainers and it doesnt look it will be stopping anytime soon. It is something that goes with the job even though it shouldnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBills51 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 he wasn't murdered, but wasn't Will Allen doused with gasoline and threatened with a lighter in a robbery attempt a few years ago? Darrent Williams was murdered a couple of years ago. Granted, it wasn't a robbery attempt, but these guys are clearly targets. Darrent Williams got into an arguement/fight at the club and that is what sparked the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Who cares if Mitchell wrote that message with grammatical errors. I am utterly speechless in hearing that one of the players houses got vandalized. It is hard enough that we lost a tough one yesterday but to me, the thought of a players house getting vandalized because of it is much harder to stomach. I do hope they catch the guy but it still wont take away what happened. And to the guy who did it, thanks for giving the rest of the league another reason to look down at our organization Exactly. This is just horribly bad taste. So much for supporting the team. They played their asses off last night and came up a point short against one of, if not the, best team in the league and that's the welcome home they get? Just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Well at least we know it wasn't Marshawn's house. Nobody is that stupid. First, he was home and second, everyone knows that dude is packin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I hope that it was a "harmless" prank and that the perpetrator(s) were just kids. Vandalism is an act that occasionally can be forgiven of young people. I did some bad things as a kid and I'm considered by those who know me as a decent person. Of course there's a huge gray area as with all things. For instance, what if a cross was burned into someone's lawn? That would not be an easily forgivable act in my book. Even if it was a kid who did it. Hopefully JW has some details soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Why did you bother writing anything after that. The "safety issue" does exist. You agree with me. I said... Don't try and figure it out... Of course the issue does exist. I am looking at the cause of it. By know that, one knows how to CONSTRUCTIVELY solve it. I don't agree with you on how to handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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