Pitta Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Its already been posted that some reporters were not impressed with Rian Fitzpatrick's skills at mini camp and the OTA's ...... well add our very own Vic Carucci to the list. "The Bills desperately need to upgrade their quarterback depth. It was actually painful to watch Ryan Fitzpatrick, the free agent they signed from the Cincinnati Bengals to fill the No. 2 role, throw passes during practice. His throws often lacked zip and accuracy. On multiple occasions, he would fire the ball at the feet of his receivers, or throw wobbly passes that were uncatchable. Gibran Hamdan, an incumbent backup, didn't do a whole lot better." http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8118054b Who's still out there that's worthy??? I happen to believe Carucci is pretty darn good so if he says it then we in trouble if Trent goes down. We need to address this ASAP. And please no Mike Vick. I'd rather have any of the posters play before Vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Its already been posted that some reporters were not impressed with Rian Fitzpatrick's skills at mini camp and the OTA's ...... well add our very own Vic Carucci to the list. "The Bills desperately need to upgrade their quarterback depth. It was actually painful to watch Ryan Fitzpatrick, the free agent they signed from the Cincinnati Bengals to fill the No. 2 role, throw passes during practice. His throws often lacked zip and accuracy. On multiple occasions, he would fire the ball at the feet of his receivers, or throw wobbly passes that were uncatchable. Gibran Hamdan, an incumbent backup, didn't do a whole lot better." http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8118054b Who's still out there that's worthy??? I happen to believe Carucci is pretty darn good so if he says it then we in trouble if Trent goes down. We need to address this ASAP. And please no Mike Vick. I'd rather have any of the range posters play before Vick Hey Pitta/Cunnilinus this is the Stadium Wall, if you're going to copy and paste from other boards, do a pre-read of what you're posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 But, he looked so good throwing the ball like a 16 pound shotput in Cincinnati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimGraham Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Its already been posted that some reporters were not impressed with Rian Fitzpatrick's skills at mini camp and the OTA's ...... well add our very own Vic Carucci to the list. "The Bills desperately need to upgrade their quarterback depth. It was actually painful to watch Ryan Fitzpatrick, the free agent they signed from the Cincinnati Bengals to fill the No. 2 role, throw passes during practice. His throws often lacked zip and accuracy. On multiple occasions, he would fire the ball at the feet of his receivers, or throw wobbly passes that were uncatchable. Gibran Hamdan, an incumbent backup, didn't do a whole lot better." http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8118054b Who's still out there that's worthy??? I happen to believe Carucci is pretty darn good so if he says it then we in trouble if Trent goes down. We need to address this ASAP. And please no Mike Vick. I'd rather have any of the posters play before Vick I agree with Vic. There were times I actually confused Ryan Fitzpatrick for Matt Baker in drills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Have you seen a picture of Fitz? I'm surprised he doesn't have more coordination issues with a melon the size of his. "Look at the size of that boy's heed. I'm not kidding, it's like an orange on a toothpick." "Shhh, you're going to give the boy a complex." "Well, that's a huge noggin. That's a virtual planetoid. Has it's own weather system." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Never understood this signing. If Edwards goes down I'd rather put in Hamdan or a low round draft pick at QB and at least have a chance at catching lightning in a bottle than put in a guy like Fitz who has zero upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Have you seen a picture of Fitz? I'm surprised he doesn't have more coordination issues with a melon the size of his. "Look at the size of that boy's heed. I'm not kidding, it's like an orange on a toothpick." "Shhh, you're going to give the boy a complex." "Well, that's a huge noggin. That's a virtual planetoid. Has it's own weather system." HEED!! MOVE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I agree with Vic. There were times I actually confused Ryan Fitzpatrick for Matt Baker in drills. Ouch. I'm not sure you can sink lower than that. I've got to believe it won't make financial sense to cut Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Its already been posted that some reporters were not impressed with Rian Fitzpatrick's skills at mini camp and the OTA's ...... well add our very own Vic Carucci to the list. "The Bills desperately need to upgrade their quarterback depth. It was actually painful to watch Ryan Fitzpatrick, the free agent they signed from the Cincinnati Bengals to fill the No. 2 role, throw passes during practice. His throws often lacked zip and accuracy. On multiple occasions, he would fire the ball at the feet of his receivers, or throw wobbly passes that were uncatchable. Gibran Hamdan, an incumbent backup, didn't do a whole lot better." http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8118054b Who's still out there that's worthy??? I happen to believe Carucci is pretty darn good so if he says it then we in trouble if Trent goes down. We need to address this ASAP. And please no Mike Vick. I'd rather have any of the posters play before Vick Isn't Griese still on the street. Hell Even his father would be an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Ouch. I'm not sure you can sink lower than that. I've got to believe it won't make financial sense to cut Fitzpatrick. How so? NFL contracts aren't guaranteed right so if he can't perform, then its time to cut him. Of course he's "Ivy league" so I guess he fits in with our head coach and I can't see him going anywhere regardless of poor performance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Isn't Griese still on the street. Hell Even his father would be an upgrade. How about Jeff George airing it out to Evans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGimp Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Another fine mess by John Guy! How does that front office keep their jobs?? I could do better in front of my computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Never understood this signing. If Edwards goes down I'd rather put in Hamdan or a low round draft pick at QB and at least have a chance at catching lightning in a bottle than put in a guy like Fitz who has zero upside. Coulda had Graham Harrell. Chase Patton is still out there. Granted, both are 'projects, but either would likely thrive if only we had an OC/HC like... Mike Leach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwws9999 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Coulda had Graham Harrell. Chase Patton is still out there. Granted, both are 'projects, but either would likely thrive if only we had an OC/HC like... Mike Leach bring back losman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 bring back losman Not a chance in hell he'd ever come back and play for this coaching staff. We're stuck with Trent Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 I think his lack of accuracy down the field comes from poor footwork. Didnt JP work on his footwork and mentioned that it helped his delivery?? could be wrong, but 'somebody' said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 The Bills seemed to give the first hint Monday that they're going to put a fairly interesting spin on the "Wildcat" offense this season. For a few non-contact plays early in practice, they had wide receiver Roscoe Parrish lined up in shotgun, behind center, while quarterback Trent Edwards was lined up wide to Parrish's right at receiver. Parrish played quarterback in high school, so he is quite comfortable at the position. On one snap Parrish took it himself and ran after faking a handoff to Lynch, and then handed off to Lynch on another play. The Bills are happy to make all of their opponents aware that they have the "Wildcat" package because, by the estimation of defensive coordinator Perry Fewell, Buffalo's defense had to devote a minimum of seven hours each week to prepare for "Wildcat" scheme of its opponents. Fourteen of those hours alone went into preparing to face the NFL's "Wildcat" pioneers and division foe, the Miami Dolphins.if TE goes down, we just wildcat em to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBlood Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 the wildcat could just be a way to get Roscoe involved in the O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 The Bills seemed to give the first hint Monday that they're going to put a fairly interesting spin on the "Wildcat" offense this season. For a few non-contact plays early in practice, they had wide receiver Roscoe Parrish lined up in shotgun, behind center, while quarterback Trent Edwards was lined up wide to Parrish's right at receiver. Parrish played quarterback in high school, so he is quite comfortable at the position. On one snap Parrish took it himself and ran after faking a handoff to Lynch, and then handed off to Lynch on another play. The Bills are happy to make all of their opponents aware that they have the "Wildcat" package because, by the estimation of defensive coordinator Perry Fewell, Buffalo's defense had to devote a minimum of seven hours each week to prepare for "Wildcat" scheme of its opponents. Fourteen of those hours alone went into preparing to face the NFL's "Wildcat" pioneers and division foe, the Miami Dolphins.if TE goes down, we just wildcat em to death. cough, copyright infringement, cough, cough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 On the bright side, don't have to worry about anybody getting a bunch in their panties over a little competition this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 the wildcat could just be a way to get Roscoe involved in the O. That looks like the plan. I remember ML back there last year. It made ME uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Another fine mess by John Guy! How does that front office keep their jobs?? I could do better in front of my computer. but, but...RALPH TRUSTS HIM!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 hell on this wildcat stuff lets bring on the wishbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 But, he looked so good throwing the ball like a 16 pound shotput in Cincinnati. the experts are all wrong John Guy knows football and he says Fitzpatrick can play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I have been saying how bad our QB depth is the whole off season and been getting beaten up on these boards for saying so. There is a reason so many people call him "Noodle Arm" Fitzpatrick. Alot of people on these boards think Fitz is the second coming of Jim Kelly, but I think it is closer to a second coming of Billy Joe Hobert. If Edwards goes down, we don't have a snowballs chance in a microwave. I am sure I will get beat up again for saying it, but it will turn out to be the worst move of the off season, and the most confusing. If we wanted Fitz, he still would be available now, yet we signed him 30 seconds into free agency and gave him millions. Make sense to me-NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHampshireBillsFan Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Fitz was signed based on his performance last year in regular season games for an NFL team. It makes no sense to evaluate him based based on mini camp or even training camp performance, like he was a kid invited for a tryout. If he does awful in 2 or 3 preseason games then we should start to get worried and I'm sure the FO will also become concerned. If you never liked the signing to begin with then now is the time to wait it out and see what happens. Maybe you will be proved right. But now is not the time to cut Fitzpatrick and grasp for someone else, based on bad throws in the first week of training camp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 If Fitzpatrick looks horrible in the first few preseason games then I wonder if Trent Green would be willing to come out of retirement. Then again if we were to be willing to talk a QB out of retirement.....there's always Farve. I'd throw the Niagra Falls at him to wear the Buffalo blues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitta Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 If Fitzpatrick looks horrible in the first few preseason games then I wonder if Trent Green would be willing to come out of retirement. Then again if we were to be willing to talk a QB out of retirement.....there's always Farve. I'd throw the Niagra Falls at him to wear the Buffalo blues! Are you implying that we start Favre for a year and stunt Trent's growth as our franchise quarterback? Or were you joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Are you implying that we start Favre for a year and stunt Trent's growth as our franchise quarterback? Or were you joking? Just kidding. Farve is too much of a drama queen. I don't believe that Buffalo will sign ANY big names this year and chance taking the spotlight off of TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I wonder if it's down to insufficient reps or the quality of the #2/3 o-line that both Hamdan and Fitz are struggling, where Hamdan was doing fine during camp last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I have been saying how bad our QB depth is the whole off season and been getting beaten up on these boards for saying so. There is a reason so many people call him "Noodle Arm" Fitzpatrick. Alot of people on these boards think Fitz is the second coming of Jim Kelly, but I think it is closer to a second coming of Billy Joe Hobert. If Edwards goes down, we don't have a snowballs chance in a microwave. I am sure I will get beat up again for saying it, but it will turn out to be the worst move of the off season, and the most confusing. If we wanted Fitz, he still would be available now, yet we signed him 30 seconds into free agency and gave him millions. Make sense to me-NOT! Really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcalvin79 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Fitz was signed based on his performance last year in regular season games for an NFL team. It makes no sense to evaluate him based based on mini camp or even training camp performance, like he was a kid invited for a tryout. If he does awful in 2 or 3 preseason games then we should start to get worried and I'm sure the FO will also become concerned. If you never liked the signing to begin with then now is the time to wait it out and see what happens. Maybe you will be proved right. But now is not the time to cut Fitzpatrick and grasp for someone else, based on bad throws in the first week of training camp! Matt Cassell played so bad in training camp and preseason last year that a lot of people thought he was going to get cut and Matt Gutierrez was going to be starter after Brady went down. Yeah right, look how that played out. Of course, Cassell might be a product of the Bellicheat system whereas here in Buffalo we have no system, so I wouldn't be surprised if even Peyton Manning came here and struggled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Fitz was signed based on his performance last year in regular season games for an NFL team. It makes no sense to evaluate him based based on mini camp or even training camp performance, like he was a kid invited for a tryout. If he does awful in 2 or 3 preseason games then we should start to get worried and I'm sure the FO will also become concerned. If you never liked the signing to begin with then now is the time to wait it out and see what happens. Maybe you will be proved right. But now is not the time to cut Fitzpatrick and grasp for someone else, based on bad throws in the first week of training camp! What performance was that? a 70 QB rating with 8 TDs in 12 starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 My guess is the gravity his head is creating is completely throwing off the ball's trajectory, kind of like a tractor beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 "The Bills desperately need to upgrade their quarterback depth. Yeah, I've been saying this for several months. Fitz / Hamdan are incapable of starting and lord help us if the season depends on their actions to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I have been saying how bad our QB depth is the whole off season and been getting beaten up on these boards for saying so. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Link? Here ya go, BeerSphere... link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Really?? Really! Go back and read some of the old posts from the winter. Read before you open your hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busterramsey Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 On the bright side, don't have to worry about anybody getting a bunch in their panties over a little competition this year. The Cincinnati Bengals fans gave him the nickname "noodle arm" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmjoyce113 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Has anyone actually been to camp and seen him run the offense? He may not be the best option this team has for #2 but he is throwing much better than Hamdan right now. When I was at practice both Saturday and Sunday most of his balls were spot on and were thrown in with some pretty good zip. On Sunday when I watched Hamdan throw he held onto the ball and tossed it out of bounds on 2 consecutive plays and on a third dumped it off to a back and that was almost picked off. I don't see us going out and getting another quarterback at this point, but i also don't see Fitz being as bad as some people are saying. Oh and I can't help but feel like he is a much better option than JP was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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