/dev/null Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Both failed miserably as the Bills QB So if the Bills had to choose which QB to take in their prime (assuming either ever had a prime), which would you rather see as the Bills QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I went with RJ on this just because neither of them put together a particularly great season, so I think of better games. The game where RJ took the job away from Flutie against the Colts was one of the more impressive games I've seen from a Bills Qb. Also, say what you want, but he walked off the field a winner against the Titans in that playoff game. All of JP's great games consisted of great long balls to Evans, but not a great overall game. Now, if you are asking me which one I personally like better, then it's JP all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 JP had his moments in '06, and even had me believing, so he gets my vote. I don't have many fond memories of RJ, but I might be biased in that as we didn't have Sunday Ticket in those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPL7 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I went with RJ on this just because neither of them put together a particularly great season, so I think of better games. The game where RJ took the job away from Flutie against the Colts was one of the more impressive games I've seen from a Bills Qb. Also, say what you want, but he walked off the field a winner against the Titans in that playoff game. All of JP's great games consisted of great long balls to Evans, but not a great overall game. Now, if you are asking me which one I personally like better, then it's JP all the way. my sentiments exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 You have to take RJ. He went 9-17 in Buffalo, whereas Losman went 10-23. RJ: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JohnRo00.htm JP: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LosmJ.00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Neither guy had much peripheral vision, their down fall, along with fragile egos. But, all the elements right, RJ was a much better QB than JP. Not even very close, IMO. Granted, you could argue that RJ played on more talented teams than JP did, but the smallest nuances of the game just never seemed to come very easy to JP. People forget, RJ put together some very nice, solid games in his time in Buffalo. There was the shootout games against the Rams and 49'ers, as well as tough gritty performances in Kansas City and Tampa Bay, where RJ got the crap kicked out of him, but hung in there. The closest JP ever had to a "coming out" party was the 2006 game in Houston, with the two 83 yard strikes to Lee Evans, and the game winner to Peerless in the final seconds. But, the next week, he was back to his old inconsistent, mistake prone self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 RJ gets my vote, even though I really appreciate the way that JP has embraced Buffalo. RJ had massive balls and never quit. I've seen JP get frustrated and seemingly go into "fuggit" mode on the field. RJ>JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamRoller67 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Both failed miserably as the Bills QB So if the Bills had to choose which QB to take in their prime (assuming either ever had a prime), which would you rather see as the Bills QB This poll makes me sick.... Mathison or Dufek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Super Bowl winner RJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMan Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Stupid poll. That's like asking, "what's better - a Travis Henry booger or an Antwoine Smith turd"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Would you rather be... kicked in the balls OR punched in the nose? But, seriously, RJ was clearly the better choice of two bad qb's. Edit: BTW, does this thread count for the over/under on Losman threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 rj was a fragile guy who held the ball too long who had great qb skills. jp was a fragile guy who held the ball too long who had zero qb skills. jp is the worst qb to ever get 30+ starts. he sucked the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I went JP because he was so grossly mishandled and might have developed somewhere else. He was raw coming out of college, he needed a good fit, and we didnt provide it. I think he has more talent and leadership potential than lame RJ ever had. They both bombed here, but RJ had more talent to work with IMO and better situation. RJ should have never been starting in the first place, Flutie was the better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 JP....he actually had some good games and didn't have the top defense in the league to bail him out like Flutie and RJ did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoverbills Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I take J.P. Losman, His only year as a starter, he got better the second half of the season. In 2006 19 tds and 14 int. in first year as a fulltime starter 84 qb rating , not bad season. Was the last time we made improvement in total wins from the year before. We had 5 wins in 2005 and we went to 7 wins 2006. Rob Johnson best year with Bills, 12 tds and 7 int. and only threw for a little over 2000 yds. 2006 Losman had more tds, com. pct. and qb rating than big Ben that year and Big Ben had more int. that year. About the same in sacks. Losman sucked the two years after that. But I take Losman one year as a starter over any year Rob Johnson had with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Rob Johnson. But only by default Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I went JP because he was so grossly mishandled and might have developed somewhere else. He was raw coming out of college, he needed a good fit, and we didnt provide it. I think he has more talent and leadership potential than lame RJ ever had. They both bombed here, but RJ had more talent to work with IMO and better situation. RJ should have never been starting in the first place, Flutie was the better QB. Really alphadawg? Your going with JP? Did not see that coming. This is very tough question. But if you look at the data, many of the claims made by JP apologists here are simply made up. JP was mishandled? He was not thrown in as a rookie first rounder. He was allowed to sit and observe from a guy who was at the tail end of a solid career. He never had to worry about a nasty acrimonious "QB controversy"--in fact, he never actually had to compete for the job. RJ had "more talent" than JP? Let's tke a look. RJ's targets were Moulds, Price and McDaniels. JP had Evans, Reed and Price. Now way you can say there is a significant difference in those crews. At RB, RJ had the dull trio of Smith, Bryson, Morris. JP had MacGahee and Thomas. Advantage JP. Finally the defense. Rj's was ranked higher in yards allowed but gave up a lot more points than JPs defense--that's what matters. In all, RJ did not have a better situation at all. JP was never a leader. He was never a guy who did much studying of film and he did not engage with his team while riding the pines last year. RJ took more of a beating, I think. Both were very fragile. RJs totals were less than JPs becuse he only had 11 starts in his best year. Slight advantage RJ. That's a tough hair to split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I went with RJ on this just because neither of them put together a particularly great season, so I think of better games. The game where RJ took the job away from Flutie against the Colts was one of the more impressive games I've seen from a Bills Qb. Also, say what you want, but he walked off the field a winner against the Titans in that playoff game. All of JP's great games consisted of great long balls to Evans, but not a great overall game. Now, if you are asking me which one I personally like better, then it's JP all the way. Rob Johnson did have that game in Tenn. won. It was the wrong decision to start him over Flutie but he did his job. Overall Johnson was the better QB, he would at least try and run for the first down, JP would not know what to do if his main target was not open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfriday Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I went JP because he was so grossly mishandled and might have developed somewhere else. He was raw coming out of college, he needed a good fit, and we didnt provide it. I think he has more talent and leadership potential than lame RJ ever had. They both bombed here, but RJ had more talent to work with IMO and better situation. RJ should have never been starting in the first place, Flutie was the better QB.what he said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfriday Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 what he said... To expand...would you take a player who couldn't get a start with his previous team? or would you take a 23rd overall pick? In general, the 23rd overall pick will have a better chance of success if the opportunity is right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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