billfan63 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 “I’ve said this all season,” said defensive end Chris Kelsay, “Trent is mature beyond his years. You’d never guess he’s a second-year quarterback, because he’s got complete control of his huddle, and he has the respect of the entire team. It’s good to have a quarterback like that.” When I read this quote and I believe Donte said something similiar on Jim Rome yesterday, I wonder how it would play if Trent went out for any period of time and JP was called on. In praising their QB they indirectly or directly have to throw another teammate under the bus. It's best to cut or move a former starter because it just puts players in akward situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I agree. The Bills should have rid the hairshirt in JP... It is not fair to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 And someone they pick up off the street is going to immediately garner the respect of the team? No. I think what one SHOULD infer from the comments is that they DO FULLY respect and trust Edwards. They do not DISrespect JP (or Hamdan) (or at least I don't think that in ANY way is implied), he just hasn't earned their full respect like Edwards has. AFAIC, there's no reason to assume that he isn't thought of as a better alternative to anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I agree. The Bills should have rid the hairshirt in JP... It is not fair to the team. Pardon my ignorance, but WTF does "rid the hairshirt" mean, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billfan63 Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 And someone they pick up off the street is going to immediately garner the respect of the team? No. I think what one SHOULD infer from the comments is that they DO FULLY respect and trust Edwards. They do not DISrespect JP (or Hamdan) (or at least I don't think that in ANY way is implied), he just hasn't earned their full respect like Edwards has. AFAIC, there's no reason to assume that he isn't thought of as a better alternative to anyone else. First off, the QB off the street or Hamdan wouldn't be the previous starter. The coaches obvious think he's a better alternative to anyone else, it just seems to me that the comments come across awkward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I think you guys are reading way too much in players saying that. The players have purged last season from their brains and are looking forward. Edwards exceeds what they expected out of him in terms of his maturity and they are acknoledging that, nothing more nothing less. For them the JP vs. Trent thing is soooo last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 IMO, players are not thinking about the "understudy" when they make comments like that. They are just speaking honestly about the starter,,,in this case Trent Edwards. I don't think they are throwing JP under the bus....frankly, they probably don't even think about him much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 “I’ve said this all season,” said defensive end Chris Kelsay, “Trent is mature beyond his years. You’d never guess he’s a second-year quarterback, because he’s got complete control of his huddle, and he has the respect of the entire team. It’s good to have a quarterback like that.” When I read this quote and I believe Donte said something similiar on Jim Rome yesterday, I wonder how it would play if Trent went out for any period of time and JP was called on. In praising their QB they indirectly or directly have to throw another teammate under the bus. It's best to cut or move a former starter because it just puts players in akward situations. Repeat after me, "Every comment made about Trent Edwards does NOT always have some underlying implication about JP Losman." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Repeat after me, "Every comment made about Trent Edwards does NOT always have some underlying implication about JP Losman." Except on TSW, apparently... j/k... I know just what you mean. Still trying to figure out "rid the hairshirt," though. If clarity of language means clarity of thought, then the reverse is also true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Quint Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Pardon my ignorance, but WTF does "rid the hairshirt" mean, exactly? I believe that its a phrase that refers to an old, old wooden ship, used during the civil war era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Quint Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Pardon my ignorance, but WTF does "rid the hairshirt" mean, exactly? Actually its probably like after you get a haircut how you want to get the shirt off of you because no matter how much you try, the hairs will stay in there until the shirt is washed. In this case, the haircut is Trent and the shirt is JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Actually its probably like after you get a haircut how you want to get the shirt off of you because no matter how much you try, the hairs will stay in there until the shirt is washed. In this case, the haircut is Trent and the shirt is JP. Cap, I do believe you are putting more thought into your definitions than the original poster put into his expression. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billfan63 Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Repeat after me, "Every comment made about Trent Edwards does NOT always have some underlying implication about JP Losman."You are so correct, not Every comment, just the ones that make an implication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Repeat after me, "Every comment made about Trent Edwards does NOT always have some underlying implication about JP Losman." Except that Losman sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 JP is earning respect by keeping quiet and being prepared. The players know JP is gone. They know what he's been through. That said, they need everyone, including JP, to pull together. A SB ring would make a nice going away present. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 “I’ve said this all season,” said defensive end Chris Kelsay, “Trent is mature beyond his years. You’d never guess he’s a second-year quarterback, because he’s got complete control of his huddle, and he has the respect of the entire team. It’s good to have a quarterback like that.” When I read this quote and I believe Donte said something similiar on Jim Rome yesterday, I wonder how it would play if Trent went out for any period of time and JP was called on. In praising their QB they indirectly or directly have to throw another teammate under the bus. It's best to cut or move a former starter because it just puts players in akward situations. Are you serious? If something happens to TE do we still keep winning? Would you be ok if the Bills tanked the season after that? This is about winning and making the playoffs not politicking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JP knows he's playing for another contract and would be totally stupid to play with less than 100% effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Has anyone who's at the game noticed if JP talks to Trent during the games? Often you see the backup talking to the starter when they're on the sidelines going over the plays, but I've only seen Hamdan talking to Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 JP is earning respect by keeping quiet and being prepared. The players know JP is gone. They know what he's been through. That said, they need everyone, including JP, to pull together. A SB ring would make a nice going away present. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 You are so correct, not Every comment, just the ones that make an implication And other than reading WAY WAY too hard into a couple of statements, where exactly does this comment make an implication. Yes, yes, we get it, you don't like JP. No need to beat the dead horse with inane forum topics like this. I think we've ALL accepted Trent as the starting QB so why pick on poor JP? Like him or not, he tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billfan63 Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 And other than reading WAY WAY too hard into a couple of statements, where exactly does this comment make an implication. Yes, yes, we get it, you don't like JP. No need to beat the dead horse with inane forum topics like this. I think we've ALL accepted Trent as the starting QB so why pick on poor JP? Like him or not, he tried. whats inane is this post, who's picking on JP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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