LabattBlue Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Forget about TD, MM & EM, it all starts at the top. I think Golisano will be the next owner of the Buffalo Bills. By owning the Sabres he has built up his resume and when the Bills become available, I believe he will drop the Sabres and move up to play with the big boys. Notice that I said the next owner of the BUFFALO Bills as I don't believe the NFL will allow this franchise to be moved out of WNY. PS This is assuming he gives up his aspirations for public office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony P Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Poor taste... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 Poor taste... 524254[/snapback] What's in poor taste, the fact that I used the phrase "kick the bucket" or the fact that he is still alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Before I'd support Golisano, I have to see how he handles the Sabres. His first year showed me NOTHING good. His moves (or lack of them) this year, again, showed me NOTHING at all. So far, the team is performing. Let's see if he can be a good and classy owner for a few years before placing our beloved Bills in his hands. JJ and Rich would be good options as they have pretty good sports-team experience and would likely keep the team in the Bufftown. Right now the team is Ralph's and he's not selling or moving it. That's all good as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 Before I'd support Golisano, I have to see how he handles the Sabres. His first year showed me NOTHING good. His moves (or lack of them) this year, again, showed me NOTHING at all. So far, the team is performing. Let's see if he can be a good and classy owner for a few years before placing our beloved Bills in his hands. JJ and Rich would be good options as they have pretty good sports-team experience and would likely keep the team in the Bufftown. Right now the team is Ralph's and he's not selling or moving it. That's all good as far as I'm concerned. 524261[/snapback] I'm still pissed at Bob Rich for that blank check waving charade at the owners meeting many moons ago, when he led everyone to believe that he was going to bring MLB to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Before I'd support Golisano, I have to see how he handles the Sabres. His first year showed me NOTHING good. His moves (or lack of them) this year, again, showed me NOTHING at all. So far, the team is performing. Let's see if he can be a good and classy owner for a few years before placing our beloved Bills in his hands. JJ and Rich would be good options as they have pretty good sports-team experience and would likely keep the team in the Bufftown. Right now the team is Ralph's and he's not selling or moving it. That's all good as far as I'm concerned. 524261[/snapback] Of course, Golisano bought a team in a league headed for a labor dispute and lockout. Who in their right mind would do anything in that situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolly Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Correct me if im wrong but, I believe if you own an nhl team you are not allowed to own a franchise from another sport, thus ruling out jacobs and golisano. I could be wrong but that's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Of course, Golisano bought a team in a league headed for a labor dispute and lockout. Who in their right mind would do anything in that situation? 524269[/snapback] the man spent over $100 million of his own cash on two destined-to-fail runs for Governor. Who in their right mind would do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 the man spent over $100 million of his own cash on two destined-to-fail runs for Governor. Who in their right mind would do that? 524293[/snapback] Most politicans, actually... But then, I believe most politicians are out of their minds anyway, so you've made your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Correct me if im wrong but, I believe if you own an nhl team you are not allowed to own a franchise from another sport, thus ruling out jacobs and golisano. I could be wrong but that's what I thought. 524290[/snapback] didn't the guy that owned the tampa bay lightning own the detriot pistons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I think it will all go to Ralph's daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Correct me if im wrong but, I believe if you own an nhl team you are not allowed to own a franchise from another sport, thus ruling out jacobs and golisano. I could be wrong but that's what I thought. 524290[/snapback] L-Blue says Mr. Paychex would have to drop the Sabres in his post. There's been talk of Jacobs selling/trading franchises in the past to accomodate owning a Buffalo team. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Correct me if im wrong but, I believe if you own an nhl team you are not allowed to own a franchise from another sport, thus ruling out jacobs and golisano. I could be wrong but that's what I thought. 524290[/snapback] Wayne Huizenga owned both the Marlins and the Dolphins for a period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Wayne Huizenga owned both the Marlins and the Dolphins for a period of time. 524308[/snapback] Neither of those are NHL teams...but, I'm sure you had a point lurking there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 The new owner will be Mark Hamister. He'll move the team to the Canadian side of the Peace Bridge, and the Canadian gov't will build a new stadium complex complete with a casino and Canadian ballet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I said other but I have no idea whom. The team will likely cost the new owner between $500 and $600 million to buy, which is chep as NFL teams goe. Maybe it will be slightly lower but doubtful espically if the new owner isn't willing to sign a tougher lease agreement. It will likely be someone outside of WNY that buys the team and hopefully they are willing to try to keep them in town. Otherwise, LA here comes the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 The new owner will be Mark Hamister. He'll move the team to the Canadian side of the Peace Bridge, and the Canadian gov't will build a new stadium complex complete with a casino and Canadian ballet. 524373[/snapback] I know you're joking but if you're not, the NFL wouldn't allow a casino association with an NFL team. Tampa's owner, Malcom Grazier bought Manchester United (soccer team in England) but he had to dump a casino deal with that club because the NFL would have threaten his ownership in Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Correct me if im wrong but, I believe if you own an nhl team you are not allowed to own a franchise from another sport, thus ruling out jacobs and golisano. I could be wrong but that's what I thought. 524290[/snapback] I think that is an MLB rule you're thinking of, but I'm not sure. And there are exceptions, like Huizenga. Who are the next two below Golisano? We haven't heard of them in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I think that is an MLB rule you're thinking of, but I'm not sure. And there are exceptions, like Huizenga. Who are the next two below Golisano? We haven't heard of them in NYC. 524387[/snapback] Jacobs (Buffalo guy) is CEO of Deleware North (a Buffalo company) that owns the Boston Bruins and SportsService. Bob Rich (Buffalo guy) owns Rich Products and the Buffalo Bisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbyte Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 And what have the Boston Bruins done since Jeremey Jacobs has owned them. nothing but watch the bottom line and have the highest concession prices in the league. Look at the player problems over the last 10 years for the Bruins. The NFL would never approve him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I thought it was OK t oown teams in different sports if in the same city. So Golisano would be OK, Jacobs NG! Correct me if im wrong but, I believe if you own an nhl team you are not allowed to own a franchise from another sport, thus ruling out jacobs and golisano. I could be wrong but that's what I thought. 524290[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Brady Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I'm still pissed at Bob Rich for that blank check waving charade at the owners meeting many moons ago, when he led everyone to believe that he was going to bring MLB to Buffalo. 524262[/snapback] In hind sight that was the smartest thing he ever did, MLB is a money losing black hole for small markets and if you don't like losing with the bills you certainly wouldn't like losing for 20 or thirty years straight in MLB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 I think it will all go to Ralph's daughter. 524303[/snapback] I thought both of RW's daughters have gone on record in the past, saying that they have no interest in owning the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 In hind sight that was the smartest thing he ever did, MLB is a money losing black hole for small markets and if you don't like losing with the bills you certainly wouldn't like losing for 20 or thirty years straight in MLB.... 524533[/snapback] Sometimes I wonder though...if small market teams like KC and PIT have been losing money for all these years, why do the owners not move them to another city or sell the teams? Maybe it's because they are not in as bad a shape finacially as perceived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Of course, Golisano bought a team in a league headed for a labor dispute and lockout. Who in their right mind would do anything in that situation? 524269[/snapback] So true. TG was being a smart businessman. Why do anything until the smoke settles... and see how everything plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Sometimes I wonder though...if small market teams like KC and PIT have been losing money for all these years, why do the owners not move them to another city or sell the teams? Maybe it's because they are not in as bad a shape finacially as perceived. 524783[/snapback] Where else are they gonna move them? Both KC and PITT do have championships within the last 30 years. Not to get off on a tangent, more different teams have won it all in baseball than football in recent years (last 30). Doesn't that say something? Teams can still "bring it home." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I believe the cross ownership is an NFL rule. For a long period of time, the same ownership group owned the Atlanta Thrashers and Atlanta Hawks. When the rule came into being, Mr. Blockbuster had to sell the Marlins to comply with the new rule thus keeping the Dolphins. As far as a new Bills owner goes, there is really no easy answer. I cannot see Rich owning them. Jacobs isn't a good fit, and there is no way in hell I would want to see Larry Quinn having his hands involved with the Bills. That would happen if Gollisano bought the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 The new owner will be Mark Hamister. He'll move the team to the Canadian side of the Peace Bridge, and the Canadian gov't will build a new stadium complex complete with a casino and Canadian ballet. 524373[/snapback] Don't forget about Hamister's "money" man Todd Berman, who is now serving 5 years in prison on embezzlement charges. http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nys/Press%20Rele...0chartwell' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I said other but I have no idea whom. The team will likely cost the new owner between $500 and $600 million to buy, which is chep as NFL teams goe. Maybe it will be slightly lower but doubtful espically if the new owner isn't willing to sign a tougher lease agreement. It will likely be someone outside of WNY that buys the team and hopefully they are willing to try to keep them in town. Otherwise, LA here comes the Bills. 524376[/snapback] Last I knew the net worth of the Bills organization was 708 million. so I'm assuming that if Ralph's daughter decides not to hold on to the team herself, she'll sell it for anywhere between 650 and 750 million. My guess is that if the team is sold it will be to someone from outside of WNY and that could be trouble for the Bills in Buffalo. Not that Buffalo is a bad football town, because I can't think of a better one, but the fact that the economy in Western NY is less than ideal. As much as I hate to say or even think it, the economy needs to take a major upswing in the next 10 years if we are to retain the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillsfootball Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 The new owner will be Mark Hamister. He'll move the team to the Canadian side of the Peace Bridge, and the Canadian gov't will build a new stadium complex complete with a casino and Canadian ballet. 524373[/snapback] That's the funniest thing I've heard yet. Canada will get its first franchise as soon as it becomes a state in the United States. Canadian money sux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Golisano would have to sell the Sabres to buy the Bills, NFL rules. How about Rupert Murdoch who'd move them to LA and put them in the NFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 It will be sold to the daughter, and I suspect sold to the highest bidder. Hopefully it will stay in Buffalo, but who knows what the highest bidder will have in mind. Would the Colts ever leave Baltimore? Would the Browns ever leave Cleveland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkLessWagMore Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Ralph's wife, Mary. No estate tax. In her early 60's and in good health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 Golisano would have to sell the Sabres to buy the Bills, NFL rules. 540696[/snapback] ...and that would be a problem how?? He would sell the Sabres in order to buy the Bills in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Entercom radio (WGR) will buy the Bills so that they can show the world how to run a football team the correct way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkast Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Bill Gates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 ...and that would be a problem how?? He would sell the Sabres in order to buy the Bills in a heartbeat. 540723[/snapback] I think either way it will be a group of investors lead by one of those guys. Golisano is high profile, but Rich and Jacobs are wealthier. I've heard that Jacobs was considered a good candidate by the NFL because his company has great cash flow. Personally, I am concerned that Jacobs wouldn't show a committment to winning, just like with the Bruins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Me. I just have to wait till Powerball gets up to $300MM+ again. (I'll finance the rest). All GM decisions will be determined by poll of TSW posters, so the Super Bowl can't be far off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 This is a sick, morbid poll- and I don't even want to think about it, nor do I care......I'm more concerned w/Mr. Wilson's health than the state of his football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 And what have the Boston Bruins done since Jeremey Jacobs has owned them. nothing but watch the bottom line and have the highest concession prices in the league. Look at the player problems over the last 10 years for the Bruins. The NFL would never approve him 524434[/snapback] And I hope it stays that way. The Bruins can stay at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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