Debate Over: Drake Maye can’t hold Josh Allen’s jockstrap

[YoloinOhio]

 

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Or the Bills won because their O was slightly better than the Pats O. It's the about face of desperately trying to give Allen no credit whatsoever for the Bills won which I find odd considering you were one of his biggest cheerleaders on here when he was struggling.

Last I checked th O don’t face eachother this I will stay with my answer.. I like Allen I think he is a great QB but he hardly lit it up, it wasn’t the weather or game for that style of play.. both QBs played well and Allen played better which is expected since he is a great vet QB.. I think Maye is a great learning QB who will get beat by great vet QBs right now.. 

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I wasn’t saying he has stunk this year but even today.. if the Pats stopped Cook the Bills lose.  This has more to do with the talent around Allen.. outside of Kincaid there isn’t a receiver that will scare a good D.. be honest the team scares me in the playoffs isn’t any division leader right now but the Texans.. that D could bring that crappy O to a SB 

 

I think most of us would agree with you on the Texans. I think we were all hoping the Colts would somehow beat the Seahawks and somehow keep pressure on them. The only positive is the Jags seem to be in a groove so they may not be seeded.

 

The other D I'm concerned about is the Broncos but I think they have weaknesses which could be exploited, as strong as they are.

[BlazinBill]

Maye is good sure- but he could not do anything in the second half at all- and Benford was not in the game- not sure how anyone at all is saying he is better then Allen- it’s kinda like when the Bills rein was over after the wind game- massholes are both massholes and delusional 

[PatsFanNH]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Lmao so being 1-1 makes Allen his daddy 😂. Guess that means in the playoffs Mahomes is Allen’s Daddy

[HappyDays]

22 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

sorry if you hate the fact the team wins only when Cook has a good game a team stops Cook the Bills have lost look it up

 

The Bills this year are 3-2 when Cook gets under 100 yards. They're 2-1 when he averages less than 4 YPC. So first of all you are just wrong.

 

But what exactly is your point here? We have the worst WR room in the NFL. So yeah if the run game is struggling we have no other answers. That has nothing to do with Allen. Allen is the only reason this passing offense functions at all.

[PatsFanNH]

2 minutes ago, BlazinBill said:

Maye is good sure- but he could not do anything in the second half at all- and Benford was not in the game- not sure how anyone at all is saying he is better then Allen- it’s kinda like when the Bills rein was over after the wind game- massholes are both massholes and delusional 

Who thinks he is better than Allen?  Do we have delusional fans? Yes but right now after watching the game I’m more upset at the D that we spent a small fortune on not being able to make 1 dang stop than I am in my QB and a bunch of cast offs on Offense and Lowe showed why he needs replaced as the backup next year.. he is beyond bad 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, PatsFanNH said:

Last I checked th O don’t face eachother this I will stay with my answer.. I like Allen I think he is a great QB but he hardly lit it up, it wasn’t the weather or game for that style of play.. both QBs played well and Allen played better which is expected since he is a great vet QB.. I think Maye is a great learning QB who will get beat by great vet QBs right now.. 

 

But the D's don't face each other either? Yet you said the reason the Bills won is their D stunk slightly less than the Pats D. Comparisons can be made both ways or neither way, surely?

 

Allen did what he needed to win. I understand what you mean by a key reliance on Cook (though stand by finding it odd you didn't acknowledge that during Allen's quiet spell when you tried building him up on here) but, if the worst happened and one of the two had to be missing for whatever reason, I'd say Cook and let Josh deal with it. Cook has been superb this season but he wouldn't have the same affect on games with Trubisky behind centre.

[atlbillsfan1975]

2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

1 game? Neither had great stats and Maye ran for 2 TDs.. and the Pats D couldn’t stop them the entire second half and they dominated time of possession then.. but Maye is in his second year and still learning.. he will only get better let’s see how it looks when we hopefully face eachother for the right to go to the SB

Maybe, or maybe he is Kirk Cousins. Time will tell. 

[ScottishBills]

2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

 😂Guess that means in the playoffs Mahomes is Allen’s Daddy

 

Awwww look, even the one 'reasonable' one of these NE morons has turned into a dick 🤣🤣 How surprising!

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Lmao so being 1-1 makes Allen his daddy 😂. Guess that means in the playoffs Mahomes is Allen’s Daddy

 

You know before today I would have said that for a fan of another team you are a good and rational poster. Turns out one frustrating loss is enough to turn you into just another Pats troll.

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

The Bills this year are 3-2 when Cook gets under 100 yards. They're 2-1 when he averages less than 4 YPC. So first of all you are just wrong.

 

But what exactly is your point here? We have the worst WR room in the NFL. So yeah if the run game is struggling we have no other answers. That has nothing to do with Allen. Allen is the only reason this passing offense functions at all.

I said a good game  they have not won a game when  he has less than a total of 10” yards total (pass and run) and no it’s not Allen fault that you have avg to below avg talent at WR and wasn’t for him you would probably have one of the worst pass O in the NFL.. the same true for the Pats Maye is the reason the pass game is good.. he has made Hollinslook like a top tier 2 and made Diggs look like a 1 when Diggs at his age is a tier 2 WR and Hollins a 3.. Imagine where the Bills would be on O witha good (not great) WR?  I know I am thinking that about Maye what would he do with a true 1. 

[BADOLBILZ]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Drake Maye in the 2nd half

 

 

 

 

I hope he gets asked about this barf incident.   I suspect he probably just downed a bunch of gatorade/water thinking he had 5 minutes to re-hydrate and then the D gives up a 1 play TD drive and the smelling salts and stomach full of liquid caused some regurg. 

[Fan in Chicago]

14 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Last I checked th O don’t face eachother this I will stay with my answer.. I like Allen I think he is a great QB but he hardly lit it up, it wasn’t the weather or game for that style of play.. both QBs played well and Allen played better which is expected since he is a great vet QB.. I think Maye is a great learning QB who will get beat by great vet QBs right now.. 

You are a generally reasonable poster here but many of your thoughts today just sound like you are trying to cope with the loss.

[transient]

17 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

He showed amazing flashes with terrible coaching last year and this year he has gotten light years better and his accuracy is also better (and was a concern coming out of college) his deep ball isn’t going suddenly get inaccurate especially if the line can hold up for a couple of seconds.. does that mean he definitely will get better no? But by your thinking that means Allen could fall off a cliff next year because well it just happens.. also teams have 25 games on him and the Bills didn’t stop Maye the game plan did again 31 points you didn’t stop the Pats O you won a shoot out.. the hole “well in the last 2 minutes” line fails realize the O gave the D the lead with like 4:18 seconds left and they couldn’t hold it for 2 minutes!!  This hole “Maye is trash or average” is just Bills fans wishful thinking.  You won a shoot out because our D stunk just a little bit more than your D. 

 

9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

That usually doesn’t happen for a hole game teams usually get it for a quarter and they adapt.. they never stopped trying to run because the game was close and the run game was being effective most of the game. (Aka they got the lead witha 65 yard run)

You do realize there is more than one spelling for the word (hōhl), right?

[PatsFanNH]

Just now, transient said:

 

You do realize there is more than one spelling for the word (hōhl), right?

Ya I typed to fast lmao

[Playoffs?]

18 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I wasn’t saying he has stunk this year but even today.. if the Pats stopped Cook the Bills lose.  This has more to do with the talent around Allen.. outside of Kincaid there isn’t a receiver that will scare a good D.. be honest the team scares me in the playoffs isn’t any division leader right now but the Texans.. that D could bring that crappy O to a SB 

I think this is all kinda pointless talk. If the Bills stopped the 65 yard TD run, they would’ve won the game by double digits. Sure if you stopped Cook, you might have won…. Or not. 
We can play the ‘what if’ games all day long. This game was simply a tale of two halves. The Bills got the better of the Pats in the half that mattered most today. There are many different ways to win a football game 

[transient]

1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

Ya I typed to fast lmao

Ok. Just makin' sure you didn't need to be schooled twice today. 

[Haslett_Stomp]

4 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I said a good game  they have not won a game when  he has less than a total of 10” yards total (pass and run) and no it’s not Allen fault that you have avg to below avg talent at WR and wasn’t for him you would probably have one of the worst pass O in the NFL.. the same true for the Pats Maye is the reason the pass game is good.. he has made Hollinslook like a top tier 2 and made Diggs look like a 1 when Diggs at his age is a tier 2 WR and Hollins a 3.. Imagine where the Bills would be on O witha good (not great) WR?  I know I am thinking that about Maye what would he do with a true 1. 

 

35-31

[atlbillsfan1975]

3 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

You are a generally reasonable poster here but many of your thoughts today just sound like you are trying to cope with the loss.

Nah, this is who he really is, he tries to sound level headed but he is just another irrational, biased fan for his team. Like us for the Bills. That’s why I take anything he shares with a grain of salt. 
 

and btw, Maye didn’t like good to me today. He looked like a well rested 23 year old athlete who used his legs to make a couple of pretty simple runs in the first half. By the second half the Pats rest advantage appeared to wear off, as did all the trickery they tried and the Bills owned them. 

Edited 9 hours ago by atlbillsfan1975