Jackson hawes ceiling ???

[BearNorth]

Hawes - 15 targets, 12 catches, 11 1st Downs, 3 TD's.  Keep feeding him the rock.

[chris heff]

4 hours ago, nuklz2594 said:

guy has exceeded every expectation. an off-season of work and having Josh as QB...what's his ceiling?

He went to Yale, so maybe he gets a Masters in English History from Harvard. At the same time he becomes the Paul Costa version of John Stallworth.

[NeverOutNick]

I love the kid I think him being an elite offensive lineman that’s a tight end and being able to be clutch when needed makes him invaluable. I don’t think he will ever be Gronk or George Kittle because he’s not that kind of athlete but heck maybe he can be a better blocking version of Jason Witten

[seannc]

Ceiling? Maybe Taylor Swift's second husband?

[Magox]

4 hours ago, Buffalo ill said:

I think his ceiling is being unsurance for when Kincaid is up for an extension.  I fear being handcuffed by a contract to a often injured player yet again.  Having Hawes on the team might softens the blow of trading Dalton or letting him walk.

 

Dalton won’t be leaving the Bills

[Don Otreply]

4 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

looks like he is going to be one of the best run (and pass blockers?) in the league for a long time.

 

If he continues to do well as  receiver, and really focuses on that in the off season, attending the tight end camp and working with some of the best on his own, I think he can become a high quality starter, a great compliment to Kincaid.

 

But Iike Knox too, think he is one of the most under utilized talents on the roster.  He separates effectively, has very good hands now, and has become a much better blocker.  I would love to keep all three of these guys next year and think Knox can be had for a very good price.

 

But Brady needs to open his eyes to the talent on the roster, and not wait to be called out for not doing that.

 

 

The offense has not been good at using the available talent, this is not a new problem, Brady seems to forget what weapons he has, and hasn’t shown an ability to mix in those players consistently, jmo.

 

GO BILLS!!!

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:

I love the kid I think him being an elite offensive lineman that’s a tight end and being able to be clutch when needed makes him invaluable. I don’t think he will ever be Gronk or George Kittle because he’s not that kind of athlete but heck maybe he can be a better blocking version of Jason Witten

Jason Witten?  What an odd comparison.  You might want to take a look at Witten’s career stats and then go try and find someone else to compare Hawes to.  😂

Edited 13 hours ago by LabattBlue

[DrDawkinstein]

Rookie contract. Those townhouses by the stadium a bunch of players live in have like 9ft ceilings at most.

[NeverOutNick]

3 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Jason Witten?  What an odd comparison.  You might want to take a look at Witten’s career stats and then go try and find someone else to compare Hawes to.  😂

Upside…come on brother. No one with any common sense would think I’m actually stating a rookie 3rd TE is right now comparable to Jason Witten. But I like his longevity to one day be Jason Witten like. It’s not unfathomable 

[LabattBlue]

Just now, NeverOutNick said:

Upside…come on brother. No one with any common sense would think I’m actually stating a rookie 3rd TE is right now comparable to Jason Witten. But I like his longevity to one day be Jason Witten like. It’s not unfathomable 

Once again…go look at Witten’s career numbers. 

[NeverOutNick]

Just now, LabattBlue said:

Once again…go look at Witten’s career numbers. 

Once again the kids a rookie. What does Witten’s career numbers have to do with comparing the kind of player Hawes could be. He’s already an elite blocker and nasty like Witten, not a phenomenal athlete but already has a rapport to get open for his QB. Hopefully he can run routes consistently like Witten did but not a far fetched idea to think he can. He’s only going to get better. 
 

[LabattBlue]

1 minute ago, NeverOutNick said:

Once again the kids a rookie. What does Witten’s career numbers have to do with comparing the kind of player Hawes could be. He’s already an elite blocker and nasty like Witten, not a phenomenal athlete but already has a rapport to get open for his QB. Hopefully he can run routes consistently like Witten did but not a far fetched idea to think he can. He’s only going to get better. 
 

Never mind.  

[Shortchaz]

I thought his touchdown grab was actually a sneaky good catch. He seems to have a lot of tools, just depends on how bad he wants it. 

[hondo in seattle]

He's a helluva blocker.  One of the best blocking TEs in the league.  

From what I've seen, his route running is unspectacular.  If a LB or safety is assigned to him man-to-man, he likely won't get separation.  But versus zone, he does seem to have an ability to find a soft spot.  

And, so far, his hands seem reliable.  

 

All in all, a great role player and excellent value for the 5th round.  

[Buffalo716]

Only question is 

 

Was Jackson tapped into skull and bones at Yale?

 

Any good skull and Bones recruitment year has at least a Yale football star or captain 

 

If he was tapped into skull and Bones his ceiling is US president 

Edited 7 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Kelly to Allen]

He's very similar to Kyle Brady in the 90s. 

[thewookie1]

My guess is his ceiling is more or less what we already have but just further refined. 
 

Top tier blocker who is borderline like a 6th OL

 

A guy who understands his role and plays within it

 

And will likely continue to make a solid impact in the passing game once or twice a game when he cleverly slips out of his blocking role. 
 

He’s very good at finding soft zones in zone defenses and has a knack for finding yards whenever they’re available for him to take.

 

I don’t see him ever becoming a huge pass catcher as he doesn’t exactly run crisp routes or have a physical absurdity to overwhelm defenders in coverage however his skills do play well into his general role. I could also see him having a random 100yd game in a run heavy game with multiple check downs for 8+ yards a pop. 

[nuklz2594]

16 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

The 4.8 40 is always lingering as to what his ceiling can be.  

so faster than keon....

[NeverOutNick]

11 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

so faster than keon....

16 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

The 4.8 40 is always lingering as to what his ceiling can be.  

His 10 yard split was 1.56 seconds. That’s impressive and shows what he’s capable of since TEs aren’t really doing 40 yard sprints on the field lol

 

He’s going to be a good one. We got a steal. Just hope he can develop running routes. He’s already an elite blocker and great at being a safety valve for Josh. He has a catch in every game this year. He’s only going to get better.