The Jokeman Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, frostbitmic said: Jackson - It won't be this year, none of the 4 will be this year but Lamar has the best coaching and probably is on the best roster of the four. And Baltimore fans want Harbaugh fired like yesterday. Quote
ticketssince61 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Jackson* All still in the hunt this year. It kind of surprises me that a class this good is still waiting for its first SB appearance, now nearing the end of their collective 32 seasons of NFL football. Two word answer: "Patrick Mahomes" Edited 21 hours ago by ticketssince61 1 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, ticketssince61 said: Two word answer: "Patrick Mahomes" Referees putting back Josh Allen's first downs back by an extra foot That's my answer Blind men kno the Chiefs have been getting bailed out for years they're not beating us by three touchdowns lol Edited 21 hours ago by Buffalo716 Quote
FireChans Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 10 hours ago, CSBill said: What evidence is there to say he has the best coaching? Is this the staff that has had an MVP quality QB and running back the past few years, a top-tier Defense, etc., etc., and yet still can't get past the 1st round of the playoffs? And probably won't even make it this year. Harbaugh is all media hype. They were in the AFCCG two years ago, which is just as far as we have gotten. Quote
SoMAn Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I believe the guy taken 3rd in the 2024 draft will get there first - and probably win. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 16 hours ago, frostbitmic said: Jackson - It won't be this year, none of the 4 will be this year but Lamar has the best coaching and probably is on the best roster of the four. Jackson is a terrible playoff QB. "Best coaching"?? Harbaugh has won 4 playoff games in the last 11 years (losing twice to the Bills). McD has 7 in the past 5. Harbaugh is Baltimore's Mike Tomlin at this point--still eating free lunch off that SB win a million years ago. 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 17 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Jackson* All still in the hunt this year. It kind of surprises me that a class this good is still waiting for its first SB appearance, now nearing the end of their collective 32 seasons of NFL football. For comparison, the great Class of 1983 (Elway, Kelly, Marino) saw their first SB with Marino, then a couple with Elway, then already had one with Kelly by the end of their 8th season. (Yeah, and zero wins, but still.) And that's despite Kelly losing time to the USFL. Right now I'm still sticking with Josh. I think the Bills patch it together and come back strong in the playoffs this year and the next couple years. But I can see a really good argument for any of the others too, particularly Darnold (that defense) and Lamar (those injuries won't last forever). Mayfield? I think he's a really good QB on a very average team. *Josh Rosen exempted; he joins Todd Blackledge as a footnote to NFL history. Hey, Tony Eason started in a super bowl! Also, Ken O’Brien was a legit good qb for a number of years. 1 Quote
Homey D. Clown Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Josh Allen will win two superbowls similar in fashion to elway, just not for the Bills. 2 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Taro Nimbus said: Rosen! 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 19 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I think harbaugh is absolutely a worse coach than Sean McDermott lol They literally have five six seven pro bowlers and all pros every single year and fall short ... We beat them with less talent which is 100% coaching.. even in the first game of the year harbaugh tensed up and the team tensed up around him Harbaugh is on a crazy hot seat just like Tomlin they fall short because Lamar tends to play worse in the playoffs. that is not a coaching issue if he can maintain or improve on his regular season form the ravens will make the SB Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago (edited) 4 hours ago, GoBills808 said: they fall short because Lamar tends to play worse in the playoffs. that is not a coaching issue if he can maintain or improve on his regular season form the ravens will make the SB It's not fair to just always blame it on Lamar.. it is a team game top to bottom .. and coaching has a huge impact... Seans been to more AFC championship games the last 6 years too Harbaugh outside of one miracle playoff run where Joe flacco got crazy hot and led the team to the Super bowl is just very steady He literally has teams with 5 6 7 pro bowlers every single year and always underachieves Even in week one you can see harbaugh tensing up on the sidelines late in the game.. and his team played tense... Sean stayed calm and his team played loose They're obviously both very good coaches but I think Sean does more with less And I think Josh Allen will be the first quarterback from the draft class to hoist the Lombardi Edited 24 minutes ago by Buffalo716 1 Quote
BRH Posted 2 minutes ago Posted 2 minutes ago On 12/4/2025 at 2:41 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Jackson* All still in the hunt this year. It kind of surprises me that a class this good is still waiting for its first SB appearance, now nearing the end of their collective 32 seasons of NFL football. For comparison, the great Class of 1983 (Elway, Kelly, Marino) saw their first SB with Marino, then a couple with Elway, then already had one with Kelly by the end of their 8th season. (Yeah, and zero wins, but still.) And that's despite Kelly losing time to the USFL. Right now I'm still sticking with Josh. I think the Bills patch it together and come back strong in the playoffs this year and the next couple years. But I can see a really good argument for any of the others too, particularly Darnold (that defense) and Lamar (those injuries won't last forever). Mayfield? I think he's a really good QB on a very average team. *Josh Rosen exempted; he joins Todd Blackledge as a footnote to NFL history. Don't forget, Tony Eason also got there in 1986. I think if you go back to the mid-1980s you will see that there was really nobody else in the AFC, certainly not on the level of a Mahomes. I was 14 in 1983 and I remember a ton of great '70s quarterbacks all retiring or losing effectiveness right around that time and not being replaced by anybody good. - Terry Bradshaw in Pittsburgh -- Mark Malone succeeded him. Mark Malone! - Bert Jones in Baltimore/Indy -- they drafted Elway but traded him and were stuck with Art Schlichter and Mike Pagel - Ken Stabler and Jim Plunkett in Oakland/LA -- replaced by Marc Wilson. Marc Wilson! - Dan Pastorini in Houston -- replaced by Warren Moon, who had a great career but never made it, thanks in part to us - Brian Sipe in Cleveland -- replaced by Paul McDonald. Paul McDonald! - Ken Anderson in Cincinnati -- they were working in Boomer Esiason, who did make it to a SB - Dan Fouts in San Diego -- he hung around the longest, but the cupboard was bare when he retired (and even before that) - Jim Zorn in Seattle -- Dave Krieg was decent but not great - KC didn't have anybody at all Buffalo (Fergy), New England (Steve Grogan), Miami (Bob Griese), the Jets (Richard Todd), and Denver (Craig Morton) had also lost or were losing longtime QBs, but they mostly hit the lottery in '83. Everyone else was screwed, including KC who tried with Blackledge. As others have pointed out, there was no Mahomes sitting around blocking the class of '83. So this isn't that much of a surprise that the class of '18 hasn't gotten there (yet). Quote
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