Bills sign Brandin Cooks

[Andrew Son]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I think that they all need to go. Wipe the slate clean and hit reset. It’ll be the most desired job on the market with Josh. Get someone new building the roster and someone new designing the schemes. There are some position coaches that’s I’d keep but otherwise, wipe it clean.

That’s probably right, but a part of me wonders if some genius coordinator wants to install his system with a guy who’s at his best playing backyard football outside of structure.

 

I always think about that when people mention the Shanahan’s of the world.  Shanahan wants a point guard distributor to make quick decisions and run his scheme.  That’s simply not Josh.

[Blank Stare]

The talent hasn’t been there which is clearly on Beane, but the bigger problem, at least with respect to what we can control at this point in the year, Brady just can’t scheme an effective pass game. Just not consistently. The whole operation is a damn mess. Inexcusable to have let it get like this. 

[juno999]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

We now have a logjam of mediocre WRs. Between this signing, Gabe lurking on the PS, and the potential of Hardman returning at some point...it's making me think that either Hardman was hurt way more than we thought and won't be back OR they are doing whatever they can to make sure Coleman doesn't have to see the field again this year.

I don’t believe we see Coleman again this year.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

The missed simplicity over the course of this era as to what better wide receivers would do for this team is mind blowing. Beane has the ingrained philosophy from the Cam Newton era in Carolina, priority number 8 is playmakers on the outside, even after Running backs!

Edited 30 minutes ago by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, juno999 said:

I don’t believe we see Coleman again this year.

 

I agree.  Multiple missed/late meetings and the straw on the camels back I think is the film of him jogging a route in a crucial moment against the Dolphins.

I saw it live, it popped out to me.  I couldn't believe after Allen was scrambling to get back to the line to run another play, giving everything he has, and Coleman jogs his route.

I would be done with him too.  You can't teach that out of someone.  That's just who they are.

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, Andrew Son said:

That’s probably right, but a part of me wonders if some genius coordinator wants to install his system with a guy who’s at his best playing backyard football outside of structure.

 

I always think about that when people mention the Shanahan’s of the world.  Shanahan wants a point guard distributor to make quick decisions and run his scheme.  That’s simply not Josh.

Interesting thought and point. Personally, I’ve wanted a cocky, prickly guy. Cignetti was my first choice but he signed that monster deal. Lane Kiffin is next for me but think he goes to Florida. The Bills don’t need to be stoic. They don’t need “calm, cool and collected.” They need attack, attack, attack.

 

The best version of Josh Allen, and in turn the Bills, is Thanos Josh. When Josh is fiery and taking over, they’re at the best. The 13 seconds Josh is his best. Josh taking off on 4th down vs. KC last year and flexing in the end zone. That confidence and swagger is infectious. The Bills follow Josh. The Bills go as Josh goes. Josh Allen sitting on the sidelines hanging his head, staring at a surface and not talking to anyone is him at his worst. He’s been gelded. What I want the most in a new regime is to let Josh be Josh. Lane Kiffin would be chest bumping him and trash talking. The Bills lost their edge. More than any other reason, that’s why I think they’ve struggled. The message and mentality is stale. Josh doesn’t need to be “reeled in.” He needs to be unleashed. The Bills need to try to dominate teams, not try to outlast the Saints. All gas, no brakes

[YodaMan79]

Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

The missed simplicity over the course of this era as to what better wide receivers would do for this team is mind blowing. Beane has the ingrained philosophy from the Cam Newton era in Carolina, priority number 8, even after Running backs!

 

Joe Banner, Andy Reid and the early 2000 era Eagles felt the same way.  It held McNabb back his first 5 years in the league.  You're correct, they haven't kept up with the times.  But at least they were getting to the NFC Championship.

[Royale with Cheese]

Cooks still has a little juice left.  He's an average WR now but he at least gives something for a defense to think about.

He's not going to kill you there but he can still make a play....that alone should spread the defense out a little more.

 

I was at the Falcons and Panthers game and man, that defense just dares you to throw outside.  The safety's are squeezed in preventing everything in the middle...same with the LB's.  Coleman was on an island all game and he just can't make plays.

[NewEra]

14 hours ago, BeastMaster said:

500 yards and one TD last season with the Chargers 

 

Dude was an afterthought, and he's doing exactly the same here because he's not a starting caliber receiver 

right, but you said that there’s no evidence.
 

Finishing towards the top of the league in yards per catch every season is evidence that he can do exactly what this team needs. Make plays downfield.  
 

He can do it, yet Josh and Brady rarely give him the chance.  

[The Jokeman]

 

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I think that they all need to go. Wipe the slate clean and hit reset. It’ll be the most desired job on the market with Josh. Get someone new building the roster and someone new designing the schemes. There are some position coaches that’s I’d keep but otherwise, wipe it clean.

Just because we have Josh means we're a desirable spot because some coaches like to build their team with their guys and their philosophies, heck we saw it when McDermott first came here. As yes we had a chance to take Mahomes and Deshaun Watson (whom I felt was a better prospect at the time of the draft) but we elected to pass on both. Why? I think it was because the thought our team had to develop more before taking the chance on a top end QB that or the 2018 QB class was thought to be better than the 2017 class so we risked that by passing on a QB in 2017 we'd get a better one in 2018. All things considered I think it was the wiser choice as am not sure Mahomes would replicate his success if we took him instead of trading down for Tre White etc. Not because he isn't talented but  he wouldn't have same roster talent around him and or ability to sit his rookie season or getting same coaching that got under Reid etc. 

[Fan in Chicago]

16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I think that they all need to go. Wipe the slate clean and hit reset. It’ll be the most desired job on the market with Josh. Get someone new building the roster and someone new designing the schemes. There are some position coaches that’s I’d keep but otherwise, wipe it clean.

Agreed. I would also want the new OC to be experienced, maybe a fired HC who is an offensive mind. 

[Captain Hindsight]

18 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I think that they all need to go. Wipe the slate clean and hit reset. It’ll be the most desired job on the market with Josh. Get someone new building the roster and someone new designing the schemes. There are some position coaches that’s I’d keep but otherwise, wipe it clean.

I've defended this coaching staff for years, but they just havent changed their approach, their mentality, their scheme in almost a decade. Teams have caught up and Josh can't do it alone anymore. At some point a change is needed. I'm not sure Pegula has the stomach to do it, though. He loves McDermott

[billybob71]

8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Interesting thought and point. Personally, I’ve wanted a cocky, prickly guy. Cignetti was my first choice but he signed that monster deal. Lane Kiffin is next for me but think he goes to Florida. The Bills don’t need to be stoic. They don’t need “calm, cool and collected.” They need attack, attack, attack.

 

The best version of Josh Allen, and in turn the Bills, is Thanos Josh. When Josh is fiery and taking over, they’re at the best. The 13 seconds Josh is his best. Josh taking off on 4th down vs. KC last year and flexing in the end zone. That confidence and swagger is infectious. The Bills follow Josh. The Bills go as Josh goes. Josh Allen sitting on the sidelines hanging his head, staring at a surface and not talking to anyone is him at his worst. He’s been gelded. What I want the most in a new regime is to let Josh be Josh. Lane Kiffin would be chest bumping him and trash talking. The Bills lost their edge. More than any other reason, that’s why I think they’ve struggled. The message and mentality is stale. Josh doesn’t need to be “reeled in.” He needs to be unleashed. The Bills need to try to dominate teams, not try to outlast the Saints. All gas, no brakes

Very well said and I totally agree

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

2 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I've defended this coaching staff for years, but they just havent changed their approach, their mentality, their scheme in almost a decade. Teams have caught up and Josh can't do it alone anymore. At some point a change is needed. I'm not sure Pegula has the stomach to do it, though. He loves McDermott

Then tell him to at least get rid of Beane and have someone else making personnel decisions. He sucks. So many chances to get things right and he can't!

[BuffaloBillyG]

18 minutes ago, juno999 said:

I don’t believe we see Coleman again this year.

Until this, I was figuring he would see the field again, be it due to injury or them giving him "one last chance". While Cooks is hardly a world beater at this stage of his career I think to me it's a loud and clear message that they are done with the Coleman experience. 

Edited 15 minutes ago by BuffaloBillyG

[juno999]

13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I agree.  Multiple missed/late meetings and the straw on the camels back I think is the film of him jogging a route in a crucial moment against the Dolphins.

I saw it live, it popped out to me.  I couldn't believe after Allen was scrambling to get back to the line to run another play, giving everything he has, and Coleman jogs his route.

I would be done with him too.  You can't teach that out of someone.  That's just who they are.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Coleman is done altogether as a Bill. As fans, we only hear a little of what’s going on behind the scenes. 

[Kirby Jackson]

14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

 

Just because we have Josh means we're a desirable spot because some coaches like to build their team with their guys and their philosophies, heck we saw it when McDermott first came here. As yes we had a chance to take Mahomes and Deshaun Watson (whom I felt was a better prospect at the time of the draft) but we elected to pass on both. Why? I think it was because the thought our team had to develop more before taking the chance on a top end QB that or the 2018 QB class was thought to be better than the 2017 class so we risked that by passing on a QB in 2017 we'd get a better one in 2018. All things considered I think it was the wiser choice as am not sure Mahomes would replicate his success if we took him instead of trading down for Tre White etc. Not because he isn't talented but  he wouldn't have same roster talent around him and or ability to sit his rookie season or getting same coaching that got under Reid etc. 

Coaches like to win. Coaches go where they have a QB. Ben Johnson waited 2 years to take a job. He had tons of opportunities. He took Caleb Williams. 
 

In contrast, McDermott wasn’t “selecting” which opportunity he wanted. He took the one that was offered. The top guys go to the best situation. The Bills, if they move on, will be the top job along with the Ravens if they move on. You would be starting off with top 3 QBs. That’s the opportunity that you’re looking for.

[Don Otreply]

Frankly I don’t know much about him, other than the  normal stuff, the signing certainly won’t hurt, 🤞

 

GO BILLS!!!

[Kirby Jackson]

14 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I've defended this coaching staff for years, but they just havent changed their approach, their mentality, their scheme in almost a decade. Teams have caught up and Josh can't do it alone anymore. At some point a change is needed. I'm not sure Pegula has the stomach to do it, though. He loves McDermott

Hope he sees it. If he doesn’t, Josh has the ability to make the change.