beane gets fired and you are the new gm

[NastyNateSoldiers]

6 hours ago, nuklz2594 said:

where do you start to get this team right? I am at a loss. 62 years old and am at a loss. bills fan for 50 years...

First thing I do is hire Belicheck and Daboll to coach this team. 

6 hours ago, Success said:

There is probably a "glass half full" plan in here somewhere.  Oliver & Hoecht would be impactful, and will be back next year.  Bishop has become a revelation.  We have good CB's.  I think we need an overhaul at LB, but Shaq Thompson is a start. Groot isn't a star but he's a keeper.

 

On offense, the line is good, obviously Allen, Cook & Kincaid, and we have decent enough receivers if we get a true #1.

 

It might not be as tall an order as we think - or a full rebuild as some are starting to talk about. 

 

Tough times right now, though. 

 

Groot Sucks and just stole a Bag of beans from Beane! 😂 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

5 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:

after June 1st designation

If you’re trying to clear cap room immediately this is not the way to do it. This actually spreads the money out down the road. You only get two a year also. 

[nosejob]

Gruden HC

Fitz  OC

Kyle Williams DC

 

IDK Time for a change

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

First thing I do is hire Belicheck and Daboll to coach this team. 

Groot Sucks and just stole a Bag of beans from Beane! 😂 

Do you honestly believe Belichick would work with Daboll again ? And that Daboll is the choice to right the offense's ship?

[NastyNateSoldiers]

23 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Do you honestly believe Belichick would work with Daboll again ? And that Daboll is the choice to right the offense's ship?

Why wouldn't they work together? And why wouldn't Daboll help Josh he helped him before? 

[KOKBILLS]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

If you’re trying to clear cap room immediately this is not the way to do it. This actually spreads the money out down the road. You only get two a year also. 

 

Totally understand... But I I was more thinking that you're going to need a couple June 1st cuts to calm the dead cap implications on some of the more recent contracts. It's all completely hypothetical because I have not even looked at any of it realistically tbh... Just assuming that a couple June 1st cuts would be needed along the way...

[Fan in Chicago]

2 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Why wouldn't they work together? And why wouldn't Daboll help Josh he helped him before? 

I don't think BB and Daboll look eye to eye. Also, there are extensive discussions on this board about why Daboll is not a good OC overall. 

[Greg S]

Fire McDermott. Hire Bill. Bill is a better DC and better HC when he has an elite level QB. I dont care what is happening at UNC. He doesn't belong in college. Bill with Josh wins a Super Bowl IMHO.

[major]

2 minutes ago, Greg S said:

Fire McDermott. Hire Bill. Bill is a better DC and better HC when he has an elite level QB. I dont care what is happening at UNC. He doesn't belong in college. Bill with Josh wins a Super Bowl IMHO.

And Bills’s girlfriend can bring back the Buffalo Jills 

[BobbyC81]

10 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

It baffles me that people like you never think of the fact that we have the greatest qb to ever play for the Bills when you say things like this.  Any of the drought coaches would have won with Josh Allen, heck, one of them may could have won a SB with him.  There is a reason that McDermott was recently ranked 15th as coach, even with all the wins you mentioned.  He is average...at BEST.  Any decent coach and GM would have at least 1 SB with Josh Allen by now

Yeah, Chan Gailey put together a decent offense with Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB.

[BillsShredder83]

9 hours ago, quincy said:

it is reported that both Beane and McDermott report directly to Pegula. Therefore if a new GM is bought in to replace Beane,  that he'd be still having to deal with McDermott as head coach. 

 

If Pegula is the only person who can sack McDermott then the new incoming GM would still have to align with McDermott and to be honest it'd seem like McDermott would have the upper hand because he has survived his hand picked GM (Beane) and would have a very big input on Beane's replacement especially if the same structure remains (both reporting to Pegula). 

 

If I was the new GM I would have to immediately try and either trade McDermott to a needy team for picks or convice Pegula to replace him. Getting a new GM with McDermott is just more of the same pain of continually coming up short. 

 

 

 

 

^^^ i don't want a GM thats taking this job with McD on board. 

 

Maybe you hire gm - he picks coach ORRR hire coach, he picks GM. But any GM taking this job with McD here is already starting off on a bad foot and in a power imbalance 

Honest to God, I know we wont.... but id prefer we lose a bunch the rest of this season.

 

IR these guys and dont risk anything further. Blow up the staff in off season, or bare minimum get serious about bringing in real coordinators.

 

Id genuinely prefer we miss playoffs. We need the better draft picks. If we can we basically start the 're-load' early, and that might help us next year, but at worse re opens 2027 as a true window.

 

1. Move Kincaid if we feel hes near peak value. We cant keep extending injury prone players.

 

2. Move Big Ed. This again salary + injuries Move. 

 

3. Knox. Gone. Milano gone. 

 

4. Shop Torrence. I could be convinced either way depending on what the return would be.

 

5. Shop Shakir. Hes a nice player, but hes a fancy tier 1, #3. We dont have a number 1 or 2. Gotta do what ever it takes to get those. We won't be able to get tier 1 for both the boundary spots... draft one and trade for one is probably the way to plug those. 

 

6. Shop Dawkins. I hate it, thats my dude.. no thats not because of false starts. Hes no spring chicken, hes salary is starting to climb right around the time his play level is going to start to dip. Idk what kinda value hed bring, but id quietly find out.

 

The good news? Bishop is gunna be fantastic. Benford rebounding it feels like.  Hairston looks good out there, after a mega abbreviated TC, missing 10 games (pre season wouldve helped him too). concussion makes me a lil nervous, but that's probably more my Bills ptsd than a valid concern right now (btw... did Cole Bishop dish that out to him? I saw him friendly fire at least once last night lol)

 

Im not at 5 star alarm on Bernard, ive watched him super close last 2 games, and hes only out there because everyone else is beat up.

 

Dude cant run right now, looks like some variation of lower body injury, the kind that sucks but fine long term. Let's hope we can get 14-15 really solid games a year outta him, hes a plus player.

 

Im frustrated, but not enough to be irrational like other L's. I think these are all pretty even keeled ideas. 

 

Were not gunna trade kincaid, Oliver, Shakir and Torrence in an off season, but id hard shop Dalton & Oliver... kick around idea of 1 of the other 2. 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

10 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I don't think BB and Daboll look eye to eye. Also, there are extensive discussions on this board about why Daboll is not a good OC overall. 

It's the system he uses that brings out the best in Allen. Ehardt Perkins system has even helped Drake Maye immensely. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

If I was in charge I would remove Mr. Brightside from the stadium playlist. I would replace it with Jelly Roll's "I am Not Ok".

[Urban Achievers]

Try to get the most senior person from the Eagles GM tree to establish a 5 year roster plan that 

 

1. Keeps us in contention each year

2. Phases in cuts on bad contracts with minimal as possible cap consequences 

3. Prioritizes playmakers for Josh 
 

Ps. Pick an experienced offensive minded head coach that helps and inspires Josh but (the coach and his coordinators) are not his best friends. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Urban Achievers

[BuffaloBillyG]

9 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

^^^ i don't want a GM thats taking this job with McD on board. 

 

Maybe you hire gm - he picks coach ORRR hire coach, he picks GM. But any GM taking this job with McD here is already starting off on a bad foot and in a power imbalance 

Honest to God, I know we wont.... but id prefer we lose a bunch the rest of this season.

 

IR these guys and dont risk anything further. Blow up the staff in off season, or bare minimum get serious about bringing in real coordinators.

 

Id genuinely prefer we miss playoffs. We need the better draft picks. If we can we basically start the 're-load' early, and that might help us next year, but at worse re opens 2027 as a true window.

 

1. Move Kincaid if we feel hes near peak value. We cant keep extending injury prone players.

 

2. Move Big Ed. This again salary + injuries Move. 

 

3. Knox. Gone. Milano gone. 

 

4. Shop Torrence. I could be convinced either way depending on what the return would be.

 

5. Shop Shakir. Hes a nice player, but hes a fancy tier 1, #3. We dont have a number 1 or 2. Gotta do what ever it takes to get those. We won't be able to get tier 1 for both the boundary spots... draft one and trade for one is probably the way to plug those. 

 

6. Shop Dawkins. I hate it, thats my dude.. no thats not because of false starts. Hes no spring chicken, hes salary is starting to climb right around the time his play level is going to start to dip. Idk what kinda value hed bring, but id quietly find out.

 

The good news? Bishop is gunna be fantastic. Benford rebounding it feels like.  Hairston looks good out there, after a mega abbreviated TC, missing 10 games (pre season wouldve helped him too). concussion makes me a lil nervous, but that's probably more my Bills ptsd than a valid concern right now (btw... did Cole Bishop dish that out to him? I saw him friendly fire at least once last night lol)

 

Im not at 5 star alarm on Bernard, ive watched him super close last 2 games, and hes only out there because everyone else is beat up.

 

Dude cant run right now, looks like some variation of lower body injury, the kind that sucks but fine long term. Let's hope we can get 14-15 really solid games a year outta him, hes a plus player.

 

Im frustrated, but not enough to be irrational like other L's. I think these are all pretty even keeled ideas. 

 

Were not gunna trade kincaid, Oliver, Shakir and Torrence in an off season, but id hard shop Dalton & Oliver... kick around idea of 1 of the other 2. 

Approximate Dead Cap hits if traded:

 

Dawkins: $27M

Oliver: $21.5M

Shakir: $14.7M

 

Around $63M in dead cap to trade these three you mentioned. 

 

Not to mention we are scheduled to have dead cap hits next year for:

 

Milano: $11M

Bosa: $7M

 

Plus a few others. Oh, and we only have like 45 players under contract for next year as it is. We are looking north of $22M in dead cap next year to comply with void years.  So in your plan we take on around $85M in dead cap, and have to fill about 10-12 spots on the roster with league minimum guys. Plus have money for draft picks, a practice squad and replenish the roster in season due to injury. 

 

How are you fielding a team?

[nuklz2594]

17 hours ago, mjt328 said:

Fire the coaches now.  Tank for higher draft position.

 

New coaches need to specialize in versatility, strategy and aggressiveness.  No more coach-specific schemes that ignore what an opponent does on gameday.

 

Start purging the bad contracts.  First out the door are Curtis Samuel, David Edwards, Connor McGovern, AJ Epenesa, DaQuan Jones, Matt Milano, Taron Johnson, Taylor Rapp, Jordan Poyer, Tre White (most of these are free agents anyway).  Start looking for trade partners on Dion Dawkins, Greg Rousseau, Terrell Bernard and Christian Benford.  Dawson Knox takes a pay-cut or release.  

 

Prioritize using free agent dollars and Day 1 picks on high-impact players.  Trade up if necessary.  No more significant contracts being given to mid-tier guys like Josh Palmer and Curtis Samuel.  No more using late 1st Rounders on guys who will peak as solid starters.  Be aggressive in obtaining high ceiling talent.  Day 1 is for getting All-Pro talent.  Day 2 is for getting starters.  Day 3 picks are for filling in the roster.

getting the broom fired up

[quincy]

10 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Im frustrated, but not enough to be irrational like other L's. I think these are all pretty even keeled ideas. 

 

Were not gunna trade kincaid, Oliver, Shakir and Torrence in an off season, but id hard shop Dalton & Oliver... kick around idea of 1 of the other 2. 

 

I have 33 guys I would like back next year - 25 veterans plus the 2025 rookie class. 

 

Josh Allen Reid Ferguson AJ Epenesa Gabe Davis Greg Rousseau Spencer Brown James Cook Khalil Shakir Christian Benford Dalton Kincaid O’Cyrus Torrence

Dorian Williams Keon Coleman Cole Bishop Ray Davis Sedrick Van Pran-Granger Javon Soloman Tylan Grable Josh Palmer Mitch Wishnowsky Joe Andreesseen

Alec Anderson Tyrell Shavers Ed Oliver Michael Hoecht plus the 2025 rookie class (8 guys)

 

Rousseau and Benford I want to see bounce back and play well for us. Want to see what Oliver and Hoecht can do together in 2026. 

 

I am not enamored with Shakir at all but he is the only competent receiver that Josh has chemistry with and I would bring back Gabe Davis next year as well. I would be really tempted to have Kincaid as the full time big slot if that preserves his health. 

 

The problem we face is that any impact players we have outside of Josh and James are just always banged up in some capacity - Kincaid, Oliver, Brown, Shakir, Bishop, Benford, Hoecht.  

 

Bernard had one good year and I am totally out on him. Dawkins seems to be coasting on his laurels and has no fire. No to Dawson Knox at any $ next year irrespective of anyone's feelings. Same with Milano. I would seriously try Hawes as TE1 next year.  

 

[frostbitmic]

HC - Klint Kubiak ... Has done a great job as OC in Seattle with Sam Darnold as his QB. I'd want this team run by an Offensive minded HC.  Kubiak is an OC, has been a QB coach and who played Safety in College so he knows something about both sides of the ball. Son of an NFL HC.

 

WR is priority #1 ... picking inside the top 20 we should be able to move up for a top WR.

 

Priority #2 is working to fix our salary cap ... Too many players making too much money for their on field production.

 

I think some changes in the scouting department need to be made.