Dawkins giving up on blocks

[nosejob]

8 hours ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

Seriously pissed me off all night watching him give up and stand there 

Not only that,  Edwards 76 kept kicking out to help Dion and not blocking anybody leaving a gaping hole in the middle. Dion was either getting manhandled, on his back or giving up. It was pathetic and he has more flags than the rest of the line....combined. In last week's game ball thread, I offered to submit my gamey balls for Dion doing the exact same thing he did last night. Every single game he does it.

 

I heard RVD went in late. Any opinions on how he did?....or was that for Brown?

Edited yesterday at 12:31 AM by nosejob

[3rdand12]

8 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

This team is too soft.  Allen is too soft, like Stevie Johnson said h4 needs to be more of an Ahole.  

There is something to this.

recall when Josh was playing video games with Diggs

 

 I am sure they all have.

But from a Coaching standpoint ?

QB needs to lead with discipline as well.

 Accountability. is it a culture issue again ?

 

[wppete]

Pathetic! He was doing this alot that game and others. 
 

 

[sullim4]

On 11/21/2025 at 10:33 AM, stlbills13 said:

 

This is a bad look. I wish our media would call him out here but they love the Schnowman persona too much

 

I flew out for the Patriots game and on the day after, had WGR on listening to Sal.  There was a caller asking why the Buffalo media wasn't asking the hard questions and holding the team accountable.  Sal went bonkers and was blaming the caller for asking a stupid question.  That question doesn't look so stupid now.

 

I think Sal's reaction mirrors the attitude of much of the media in Buffalo.  In the drought days there were Negative Nancy beat reporters and commentators like Sully but now you have the opposite problem.  Many homers that can't see the clear and obvious problems with the team, or just refuse to question it because the team has won the division and made the playoffs for many years.

 

Dion is the perfect example of a really nice guy who is talented... but no longer hungry on a weekly basis.  His play has very clearly slipped over the last several years and it's time to draft a replacement LT that can see Allen through the rest of his career in Buffalo.

 

I think 2026 needs to be a cut bait year - dump the horrible contracts, eat the dead cap space, and gear up for 2027.  Get a new GM and offensive-minded head coach in here who can build the offense around Josh and Cook and assemble a modern defense.  Avoid the quick, fragile players at positions like LB and DL, and draft durable workhorses who will be available from week to week.  Assemble the speed at safety and corner.

[gobills404]

On 11/21/2025 at 1:30 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:

These are the type of players and human beings in general I just cannot tolerate. 

 

He wants to be that vet in the locker room holding Keon accountable, fine. So be it. He's been here enough to earn that. But you and your offensive line mates give up 28 pressures, 8 sacks and you want us to look at Gabe at not coming down with what would have been an amazing catch? Really dude? Really?

 

Accountability starts with SELF accountability. He's not only clueless, but he shifting blame. How about not false starting on they key 4th and 1 of the game? 

 

Can't guarantee it, but even if the Bills pull it out last night we are probably talking about the Texas sized ass whooping Houston laid on our supposed "top 5 OL" as some here call it 

Tone deaf. 

Came here to post this exact same tweet. Glad I checked the thread first you said it better than I would’ve.

[PayDaBill$]

2 hours ago, wppete said:

Pathetic! He was doing this alot that game and others. 
 

 

Brown and Dawkins gave up and stepped aside, did they smell a basket of wings wafting in the breeze ?

Edited 23 hours ago by PayDaBill$

[Sojourner]

Keys to the city one day… 

 

A POS the next. 
 

TBD!

[billykay]

On 11/21/2025 at 11:43 AM, Charles Romes said:

Tough guy Spencer Brown was a beaten man at the end of the night as well. 

he was playing with one shoulder.

[wppete]

 

[Donuts and Doritos]

Just rewatched the game. (Painful). Dawkins got checked for an injury just prior to the play in question. I agree he's not been as good. But I don't know about blowing him up on a play when he just came in from an injury.

[DeepPass]

On 11/21/2025 at 10:55 AM, SCBills said:

I said in another thread, his attitude is emblematic of a major underlying issue this team has. 
 

Dawkins just wants to vibe.  Which is fine, but not when you’re a team leader on a team that hasn’t even been to a Super Bowl. 
 

He said before the season “it’s never Super Bowl or Bust” and proceeded to give a five minute explanation why. 
 

His play on the field has been uneven, and last night, piss poor .. but he then says outside his locker that we weren’t out-physicaled.  Ok, buddy… whatever you say. 
 

Soft.  This whole team outside Allen, Brown, injured McGovern and Bosa gutting it out with one hand, are soft.  I’d throw Bishop in there with how he’s been playing.  Blew up Nico and is one of the few bright spots on Defense. 

They certainly aren't a "lean and mean" team.  It's always been a problem.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

22 minutes ago, DeepPass said:

They certainly aren't a "lean and mean" team.  It's always been a problem.

True, just lean. 

[BillsDad51]

What's the story with Tylan Grable? Bills were high on him, but he went into concussion protocol during preseason, then to IR where he remains. Are Bills just stashing him there so they can keep Lundt on active roster? Can Grable replace Dawkins next year?

[Old Coot]

7 hours ago, wppete said:

Pathetic! He was doing this alot that game and others. 
 

 

This isn't to defent the performance of Dawkins but on this play he has no chance of stopping his man when Josh moves up in the pocket.

 

Dawkins is on his man all the way back but when Josh moves up, Dawkins doesn't know it and that movement gives Dawkins' man inside leverage to Josh. There's nothing Dawkins can do at that point so he stops.

 

Again, I'm not defending Dawkins' overall performance, just that this play does not illustrate Dawkins giving up on the block.

 

On an unrelated note, for someone at the game, were many of the sacks coverage sacks?

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Old Coot said:

This isn't to defent the performance of Dawkins but on this play he has no chance of stopping his man when Josh moves up in the pocket.

 

Dawkins is on his man all the way back but when Josh moves up, Dawkins doesn't know it and that movement gives Dawkins' man inside leverage to Josh. There's nothing Dawkins can do at that point so he stops.

 

Again, I'm not defending Dawkins' overall performance, just that this play does not illustrate Dawkins giving up on the block.

 

On an unrelated note, for someone at the game, were many of the sacks coverage sacks?

They break it down really well on Bills Squad. 
 

Bills go to passing Offense under Brady is 5 man protection with mesh routes. 
 

Problem is, you have to wait for mesh routes to clear to see if/who pops open. 
 

You need time to properly run that concept.  Otherwise Josh is throwing to a spot and bad things are going to happen if the player doesnt open up and get there. 
 

So Josh has almost immediate pressure and he’s looking at a friggin Picasso of people everywhere and nowhere to go with the ball. 
 

And we run mesh, because none of the WR’s our genius GM has provided stand a chance consistently beating Stingley or Lassiter. 
 

No Kincaid, so it became a pop gun offense that couldn’t protect and Brady, in his infinite wisdom, refused to help on Anderson/Hunter to such an extent that Spencer Brown with a shoulder injury was man up on them for like 3 drives. 

[Old Coot]

32 minutes ago, SCBills said:

They break it down really well on Bills Squad. 
 

Bills go to passing Offense under Brady is 5 man protection with mesh routes. 
 

Problem is, you have to wait for mesh routes to clear to see if/who pops open. 
 

You need time to properly run that concept.  Otherwise Josh is throwing to a spot and bad things are going to happen if the player doesnt open up and get there. 
 

So Josh has almost immediate pressure and he’s looking at a friggin Picasso of people everywhere and nowhere to go with the ball. 
 

And we run mesh, because none of the WR’s our genius GM has provided stand a chance consistently beating Stingley or Lassiter. 
 

No Kincaid, so it became a pop gun offense that couldn’t protect and Brady, in his infinite wisdom, refused to help on Anderson/Hunter to such an extent that Spencer Brown with a shoulder injury was man up on them for like 3 drives. 

Thanks for this. Do you have a url for the Bills Squad site?

[BRH]

Not a fan of a lot of the comments in this thread. I realize we were all upset after that game.  
 

1.  About Dion yukking it up with his opponent after the game. The game was over.  Leave it on the field.  Don’t teach your kids that it’s okay to be an ####### to your competition when you lose.  (That 13U coach one of the posters was talking about, who would cut the poster’s kid just because he fraternized with the other team after a bad play/loss?  Yeah, that coach is an #######. The poster needs to find another team.  Speaking as someone whose kid played baseball all the way through college, I promise you 13U travel ain’t the place for that kind of *****.)
 

2. About Dion “quitting” on his blocks.  If he re-engaged there, he’s absolutely getting a holding call.  Sucks, but Josh needed to get that ball out as soon as he slid up in the pocket.
 

3. About how Josh has other things in his life besides football and a SB isn’t the most important thing to him, and how he’ll force a trade to a better organization that can give him a chance to win one.  Which is it?  Both can’t be true.

 

4. About how the players don’t want it as much as the fans do.  Well, no *****.  That’s always been true.  Fans are ***** nuts.  And we can’t fathom the amount of work players put in to get where they are and to stay there year after year.  The coaches too.  I promise most of us have never put in that kind of time and energy to be at the top of our profession, all the while knowing the next game - hell, the next play - may be our last. It may look easy to us sometimes. It’s not. 
 

Take a breath, guys.  Dion and Josh are not the problem. 

[SCBills]

11 hours ago, Old Coot said:

Thanks for this. Do you have a url for the Bills Squad site?

It’s a podcast.  Go to where you can find those on your phone, look up Locked On Bills and then you’ll see all the recent shows.  Bills Squad is an hour long one Joe Marino has twice per week with Jeremy White and Jerry Ostroski. 

[HamptonBillsfan]

If Sean deserves to continue as HC after watching the tape of the Texan game and watching Dawkins futility and lack of effort, he should question his commitment, his ability and get him to play a big game against Pitt. If he gets dominated it’s on Sean. 

[Einstein]

On 11/21/2025 at 6:54 PM, nosejob said:

Not only that,  Edwards 76 kept kicking out to help Dion and not blocking anybody leaving a gaping hole in the middle.

 

Seeing this all over the tape. How did Brady not see this and tell him to cut it out?