Bills roster moves - Sanders off of IR, Hardman signed to roster, Gabe elevated

[BuffaloBillyG]

26 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

Doubt Mecole gets a ton on offense but he'll return kicks and punts. Gabe will be very relevant I bet. But Palmer will be the featured guy if I had to guess 

That's where I am thinking. I think Hardman gets around 3-5 offensive snaps. I'm guessing he gets an end around attempt and runs a couple deep routes. Basically, he will be in Curtis Samuel's role IMO 

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

That's where I am thinking. I think Hardman gets around 3-5 offensive snaps. I'm guessing he gets an end around attempt and runs a couple deep routes. Basically, he will be in Curtis Samuel's role IMO 

nah just chuck it deep to him all day😎

[Best Williams Available]

1 hour ago, Shortchaz said:

Okay, he stinks, but that has to be an indictment on management. Either they completely whiffed on drafting or the staff is incapable of managing him properly. One would think a benefit of the process would be ability to handle these things at a player level. 

With some employees, no matter the ecosystem and support you surround them with, they flat out can’t hack it. Maybe this is or isn’t what happened here, but it’s wrong to assume good management can solve every problematic employee.

[Sierra Foothills]

2 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

This will be an interesting development; going by Beane’s history, he’ll pay him the 5th year or even extend him earlier. It’s a policy that’s been burning cap without enough returns. 

 

It will be very interesting.

 

After tomorrow he'll have played in 37 of 44 possible games so far and missed games in all 3 seasons.

 

On the other hand he's a first rounder and also a good friend of Josh's.

 

This will really be a test of whether McBeane can be coldly business-like or if they'll just continue to extend "their guys."

 

[khlax3]

2 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I don’t know if Samuel is that bad or if the offense is designed poorly.  Samuel averaged over 60 receptions for the two years prior to joining the Bills - so did Elijah Moore.  Neither of them is that old and haven’t had a significant injury (to my knowledge).  They have combined for 13 catches this season.  
 

I am not saying that either is a star, but they each have produced some results in the NFL.  What happened?

I posted something similar in a different thread the other day. They were both generally in that 60 catch for 600-700 yard range and came here in their prime. 
 

In addition to those 2 once Brady was hired

-Keon failed to develop

-Diggs production fell off a cliff with Brady

-MVS spend about half a season with the bills and had like a handful of catches and yards. Went to the saints the other half the season had like 35 catches for 350 yards and 4 tds

-Shakir yards per catch dropped by nearly 5 yards per catch

[Sierra Foothills]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

That's where I am thinking. I think Hardman gets around 3-5 offensive snaps. I'm guessing he gets an end around attempt and runs a couple deep routes. Basically, he will be in Curtis Samuel's role IMO 

 

THE end around??? 

 

[Shortchaz]

2 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said:

With some employees, no matter the ecosystem and support you surround them with, they flat out can’t hack it. Maybe this is or isn’t what happened here, but it’s wrong to assume good management can solve every problematic employee.

I think the prevailing thinking on this is most problems can be resolved during the hiring process (also management). 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, Sierra Foothills said:

 

THE end around??? 

 

Oh yes. The end around of DOOM

[Best Williams Available]

3 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

I think the prevailing thinking on this is most problems can be resolved during the hiring process (also management). 

By not hiring him in this case. 😆 

[Virgil]

I hate how exciting this feels.   

[reddogblitz]

37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Well when he is benched tomorrow, come back and own it I guess. The writing has been on the wall. They already announced that Gabe is elevated and Hardman is on the active roster. Shakir and Palmer are both playing. That’s 4 WRs that are definite. They ripped his effort this week and he has been inefficient. He’s not good. 
 

I get being suspicious but it’s being reported by a group that does nothing but analyze the Bills. They have contacts. The other indicators all point to it as well. It’s just a really weird place to be suspicious. This isn’t even a little surprising let alone shocking.

 

We'll we what happens tomorrow. Wouldn't break my heart if Coleman didn't play.  How do you know they're not just hot takes?  If you want to believe what you read on twitter, go for it.  I'm just gonna wait and see what happens tomorrow.

[SoonerBillsFan]

18 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Please?

 

 

Is someone prohibiting you from doing it?

 

 

You honestly can't think of one reason?

 

To save his own butt

[Steptide]

Sucks the weather is gonna be crap tomorrow. Probably not the best way to judge an almost completely new wr group 

[Sierra Foothills]

6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

To save his own butt

 

Exactly.

 

The only other reason would be that he's seen the error of his ways... which does sometimes happen with people.

 

[Kelly to Allen]

23 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

This will be an interesting development; going by Beane’s history, he’ll pay him the 5th year or even extend him earlier. It’s a policy that’s been burning cap without enough returns. 

 

The Kincaid pick is frustrating. I personally think he's an excellent talent. But the health issue is getting ridiculous 

[Kirby Jackson]

8 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

We'll we what happens tomorrow. Wouldn't break my heart if Coleman didn't play.  How do you know they're not just hot takes?  If you want to believe what you read on twitter, go for it.  I'm just gonna wait and see what happens tomorrow.

I guess I take offense because I want the information to continue being shared. There are a bunch of people here that have sources and info. Because of the naysayers, that info doesnt hit the board. It’s exchanged in PMs and texts. If we don’t want info, I guess we can keep questioning it. 
 

I’m defending Cover 1 because it makes sense. They can’t be wrong. Their business is covering the Bills. If you want to question me, or other posters, okay. I share less now than I ever did for that reason. It’s not worth the headache. Those guys though feed their families talking Bills. If they weren’t positive that this was happening, they would have to remain quiet or hurt their credibility. It just wouldn’t make sense. Logic and common sense says that they know. They do. It’ll come out tomorrow and hopefully next time we trust reliable insiders so that they continue to share.

[Psautcsk]

27 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

THE end around??? 

 

Jet sweep and a fumb....

[EmotionallyUnstable]

If Coleman really is inactive tomorrow, I hope he wears his yellow Macy’s coat. That ***** would be hilarious. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

19 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Sucks the weather is gonna be crap tomorrow. Probably not the best way to judge an almost completely new wr group 

Well, if they ball out in spite of the weather, that would be saying something. 

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Scratch or not it's looking like his time is winding down in Buffalo. It really feels like he is a trade candidate in the off-season. Would be good for the Bills to get even a late pick swap for him at this point and it may be just what he needs too.

Who knows, last year the excuse was Keon is only 20 years old.  Maybe this offseason, the excuse will be he is still only 21 years old.

[WideNine]

3 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I don’t know if Samuel is that bad or if the offense is designed poorly.  Samuel averaged over 60 receptions for the two years prior to joining the Bills - so did Elijah Moore.  Neither of them is that old and haven’t had a significant injury (to my knowledge).  They have combined for 13 catches this season.  
 

I am not saying that either is a star, but they each have produced some results in the NFL.  What happened?

 

There is some scheme inflexibility Brady has had with all the success last year using 13 personnel.

 

Kincaid really makes that work better. Kincaid and a true X receiver (Palmer) makes that recipe even more successful.

 

With Palmer and/or Kincaid out that package can stall out.

 

I think Mr. Brady has to open up the 11 and 12 personnel playbook from time to time to better use those other WR assets.