Coaches are heavily implying that Coleman isn’t trying on the field

[The Firebaugh Kid]

3 hours ago, BuffaloMatt said:

Sweet yellow jacket . . .  shame that has been his higlight!

Don’t forget about the cookies!
I hated this pick from day one.

It’s a terrible fit in terms of the receivers that Josh likes to throw to, which would be guys that create separation. 

1 hour ago, Best Williams Available said:

They even got Dawkins to try to convince us he was going to be some pro bowler. Against our DBs in preseason is maybe not the test we thought it was?

I don’t get the vibe that Dawkins is all that bright. Great player, but maybe not a talent evaluator.

[Livinginthepast]

I really thought he had turned a corner at the start of the season  but that was just a flash. Yesterday on the TD catch he looked like what he was drafted for. But that tipped ball dropped where he made little effort just epitomized him for me.

[5ths the charm]

4 hours ago, <bills4life> said:

Ya think. Ladd was there all day. Coleman had a 45.8 percent contested catch rate in college.  What the hell did you think it would look like in the pros?  The arrogance of beane is breathtaking. Just dumb. Slow, lazy, and not very bright. Bad combination for an nfl receiver.  Also heard about him being disciplined for not showing up to practice a couple of times. Not sure if it’s true.

I bet he thought KC was gonna take someone else and he wanted the speedster they got

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 hour ago, WideNine said:

 

Folks forget that now that he is "Mr. Team player" in NE with things going well for that team.

 

The talent was there, and in fairness there were times he played pretty banged up, but his on-field antics were not the things you look for from a leader.

 

 

Mehhhh idk. Seems like exactly the kind of fire we could use right now. 

[buffblue]

4 hours ago, stlbills13 said:

Once Palmer and/or Davis are healthy, Coleman will be inactive weekly 

Probably, but our WR room will still be abhorrent

[Chaos]

5 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Mehhhh idk. Seems like exactly the kind of fire we could use right now. 

My sense was that he was the only one who ever called out McDermott on his blunders. 

[BillsShredder83]

4 hours ago, ***** said:

In one of the hard Knox episodes, Brady made a comment about WRs should know they are just running a clearing route, and shouldn’t expect to get the ball.  Brady said “call it an effing Brady Route”.

 

what other offense tells their WRs something like this?  I’m guessing none, and I’m sure it has something to do with Coleman jogging and our passing offense being terrible. 
 

I mean, blown coverage, teams not respecting the deep routes, there’s so many reasons a guy running a deep clearing route…. Could still be thrown the ball.

Im critical of Brady right now, but you're absolutely (intentionally or not) butchering the context of what he was saying.  Its not going well enough as it is, no need to make up garbage 👎

[Turk71]

A great year for drafting wrs and the Bills come away with Coleman.  It was a terrible pick and I said so at the time.  Just what the Bills needed...a big slow wr who is not particularly good at anything and can't get open unless Allen extends the play. 

MVP QB with another bottom 10 wr corps...

But hey..how about that dominant run stuffing D line?  

[EmotionallyUnstable]

12 minutes ago, Chaos said:

My sense was that he was the only one who ever called out McDermott on his blunders. 

I think it was more frustration towards Brady and the way the offense shifted. You have to remember; up until the Dorsey firing Diggs was ripping off 100 yard games left and right. He was still twisting DBs on great routes and was a force. Following Brady taking over he was much less effective and utilized. 
 

He got pissed off (as many competitors do) and was probably the first to fire a warning shot that no one adhered. He is not without fault, but media and fans turned on a player who strung together an epic 4 year stretch and was as passionate and dedicated as they come. All we saw was the Ws, and believed in the updated philosophy. Pair that with Diggs history in Minny, and it was easy to write his concerns and frustrations off as a Diva complaining. 
 

Turns out he was right, while many in Bills mafia and the front office at OBD look silly.

 

I think the trade compensation wasn’t awful either, but the fact that we’ve never been able to replicate his production at the position, not his fire and passion on the sideline, is the bigger mistake than moving on. 
 

end rant. 

[DaVinci]

just watched Joe Marino All 22 break down. He said Allen missed open Coleman on 2 occasions

[tigerthelion]

9 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

I think it was more frustration towards Brady and the way the offense shifted. You have to remember; up until the Dorsey firing Diggs was ripping off 100 yard games left and right. He was still twisting DBs on great routes and was a force. Following Brady taking over he was much less effective and utilized. 
 

He got pissed off (as many competitors do) and was probably the first to fire a warning shot that no one adhered. He is not without fault, but media and fans turned on a player who strung together an epic 4 year stretch and was as passionate and dedicated as they come. All we saw was the Ws, and believed in the updated philosophy. Pair that with Diggs history in Minny, and it was easy to write his concerns and frustrations off as a Diva complaining. 
 

Turns out he was right, while many in Bills mafia and the front office at OBD look silly.

 

I think the trade compensation wasn’t awful either, but the fact that we’ve never been able to replicate his production at the position, not his fire and passion on the sideline, is the bigger mistake than moving on. 
 

end rant. 

My biggest problem with Diggs was his disappearing act when the playoffs rolled around.  If he performed better in the playoffs, I think he would have been a lot easier to tolerate for fans of the team.  

 

Coleman is quickly working himself off the team the way he is conducting himself on the field.  That touchdown notwithstanding, he was pretty horrible again against Miami.

Edited 1 hour ago by tigerthelion

[DJB]

4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

4th round pick Troy Franklin says hi....on pace for 9 tds and 900 yards. 6-3 with 4.4 speed....keep doing you Brandon.

There was almost near unanimous consensus on this board to take Franklin as well . 
 

Man Beane is ass at drafting 

[The Jokeman]

4 hours ago, jaybeezee said:

I have 2 words so to speak for McBeane!

 

Ladd  Mcconkey. 

You draft McConkey and Shakir gets less snaps. For every MCConkey there a Ja'Lynn Polk, Xavier Legette, Ricky Pearsall, Keon Coleman and Xavier Worthy drafted. 

Edited 1 hour ago by The Jokeman

[EmotionallyUnstable]

8 minutes ago, DaVinci said:

just watched Joe Marino All 22 break down. He said Allen missed open Coleman on 2 occasions

Yeah I’m not going to excuse Keon on some of those weak back shoulder targets but there were two clear deep balls I thought he should have put on him. Allen’s never been one to have the touch to hit the sideline fade. Both were severely underthrown. 

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, tigerthelion said:

My biggest problem with Diggs was his disappearing act when the playoffs rolled around.  If he performed better in the playoffs, I think he would have been a lot easier to tolerate for fans of the team.  

 

Coleman is quickly working himself off the team the way he is conducting himself on the field.  That touchdown notwithstanding, he was pretty horrible again against Miami.

So let me guess, you'd rather we traded  for DK Metcalf and give him $30 million a year? 

[philholbroo]

Coleman was drafted to beat the Chiefs cbs physicality in the playoffs, worthy and ladd did not fit what the coaching staff was looking for.  Not sure if he deserves the hate for how they use him. I do think he should have come up with the tipped ball vs dolphins this week, but his run blocking does seems good still if looking at effort.

[jaybeezee]

Shakir is not producing this year.  We keepntalking about no receivers, but we are paying Him top receiver money and he is not living up to his salary.  Ladd on the other hand is the Charger main weapon and produces even though defenses have to key on him.

 

We had the opportunity to pick up Kennan Allen thisbyear before he resigned with LA.

 

 

[tigerthelion]

3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

So let me guess, you'd rather we traded  for DK Metcalf and give him $30 million a year? 

Given what choice, exactly?   If it was a choice between Metcalf or Bernard, Palmer and Knox on the team for roughly the same money, I would rather have Metcalf.

1 minute ago, jaybeezee said:

Shakir is not producing this year.  We keepntalking about no receivers, but we are paying Him top receiver money and he is not living up to his salary.  Ladd on the other hand is the Charger main weapon and produces even though defenses have to key on him.

 

We had the opportunity to pick up Kennan Allen thisbyear before he resigned with LA.

 

 

Shakir has been a disappointment.

[The Jokeman]

Just now, tigerthelion said:

Given what choice, exactly?   If it was a choice between Metcalf or Bernard, Palmer and Knox on the team for roughly the same money, I would rather have Metcalf.

Look at Metcalf's game logs this year. Tell me if that's worth $30 million a season. 

[tigerthelion]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

Look at Metcalf's game logs this year. Tell me if that's worth $30 million a season. 

Not in a vacuum.  He has old man Rodgers throwing him the ball, though.  How would you assess the worth of what Palmer, Knox and Bernard have brought to the team this year?