So is Landon Jackson done for the year?

[st pete gogolak]

4 minutes ago, T master said:

I don't know what's going on but the dam injuries have sucked this year !! It looked as if going into the season with the players they had it would be a decent year but I don't know of any team that could sustain this many injuries especially to starters and the depth players ridiculous .

The 49’ers: “Hold my beer”.

[WideNine]

18 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

While we've all at least entertained the too old/too small accusations, I think it might be more nuanced, and more connected to philosophy and game-planning. As McDermott has had longer to fully install his vision for how to win consistently in the NFL, it seems the offense has become more and more devoted to staying on schedule, remaining two-dimensional on 3rd downs, and controlling possession. Looks to me like my favorite coaches choose instead to SCORE POINTS on offense above all else.

 

The potential issue with McD's deliberate, paced approach, is that it will likely keep "inferior" opponents within reach on the scoreboard for longer, resulting in more opportunities for the opposing offenses to "remain two-dimensional" and play their own brand of physical, but unpredictable, football. This means more snaps when the Bills defense is getting dictated to, and run at, and hit. If you're intentionally reducing possessions, then you're also intentionally reducing points, right? The Bills looked a lot better against the Dolphins once they got desperate/urgent. Why wouldn't you start the game with that kind of aggression, try to score a million points, and continue to mix in more and more run and ball control as the game script allows? Let the defense play with a dang LEAD once in a awhile. Lessen their burden. Keep them FRESH.

 

Agree it is more nuanced and good points that game script means a lot with the way this team is built.

 

Our defense was likely more built (before being decimated by injury) around playing with a lead and facing offenses that were forced into more one dimensional options having to pass to catch up. Not so much offenses that can be balanced, pound the rock, eat clock and wear them out.

 

Not playing with the lead puts our defensive makeup in a position where they have to actually stop the run and get off the field on 3rd down to give our offense a chance to catch up.

 

To get that lead they have to have enough investment outside of Allen and Cook and really well-scripted early possessions to get a lead.

 

If we win the toss and we give the ball to their offense (hoping to get the halftime double dip) our defense has to go out and get a 3 and out or turnover, which they actually did in Miami, but our offense did nothing with it.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 12 by WideNine

[bills742]

Rookie DE Landon Jackson is confirmed out for the rest of the season, according to McDermott.

[DrDawkinstein]

Is he done for the year? Did he ever really begin?

 

This kid is a classic Beane dev project. We'll see in a year or two.

[SoonerBillsFan]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Is he done for the year? Did he ever really begin?

 

This kid is a classic Beane dev project. We'll see in a year or two.

He couldn't even perform in pre season.   Another wasted draft pick

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

He couldn't even perform in pre season.   Another wasted draft pick

 

We said the same about Spencer Brown and Terrel Bernard so I'll give him a year or so.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

On 11/10/2025 at 4:30 PM, billsfan714 said:

Reading on the internet torn PCL and MCL.   Great, now 3 guys(Hoecht, Carter and now Jackson) on next years DL we will have to baby to start next year.

I'm not the least bit concerned 

 

McDermott will just spend every draft pick on the DL again in 2026.

 

Even a blind squirrel eventually will find a nut right ?

[billsfan89]

8 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

He couldn't even perform in pre season.   Another wasted draft pick

I am ok with taking a chance on a guy with a 9.88 RAS. This board complains this team doesn’t have freak athletes but then the Bills draft one who doesn’t perform his rookie year and it’s a waste.

 

The Bills going into the draft had the luxury of being fairly set at DE for 2025. Bosa/AJE /Groot and Hoecht were 4 capable starting caliber DE’s the Bills could take a chance to develop a guy for a year who has high upside and athleticism.

 

It sucks he got hurt but him and Walker were the risky picks this team needs to keep making esp after round 1-2 when prospects are usually flawed heavily 

[5ths the charm]

On 11/10/2025 at 9:03 PM, GroteStreet said:

and he had a high motor.

So does McClappy

3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I am ok with taking a chance on a guy with a 9.88 RAS. This board complains this team doesn’t have freak athletes but then the Bills draft one who doesn’t perform his rookie year and it’s a waste.

 

The Bills going into the draft had the luxury of being fairly set at DE for 2025. Bosa/AJE /Groot and Hoecht were 4 capable starting caliber DE’s the Bills could take a chance to develop a guy for a year who has high upside and athleticism.

 

It sucks he got hurt but him and Walker were the risky picks this team needs to keep making esp after round 1-2 when prospects are usually flawed heavily 

Round 3-4 shouldn't be assumed to be flawed.  They should be quality back ups.  5-7 are your special teams, or athletic but not typical size high motor players that can be a diamond in the rough.

[SoonerBillsFan]

34 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I am ok with taking a chance on a guy with a 9.88 RAS. This board complains this team doesn’t have freak athletes but then the Bills draft one who doesn’t perform his rookie year and it’s a waste.

 

The Bills going into the draft had the luxury of being fairly set at DE for 2025. Bosa/AJE /Groot and Hoecht were 4 capable starting caliber DE’s the Bills could take a chance to develop a guy for a year who has high upside and athleticism.

 

It sucks he got hurt but him and Walker were the risky picks this team needs to keep making esp after round 1-2 when prospects are usually flawed heavily 

But he had a history of knee issues and he has injured it already.  Noy good when you combine it with how badly he played so far.

[RochesterLifer]

25 minutes ago, 5ths the charm said:

So does McClappy

Round 3-4 shouldn't be assumed to be flawed.  They should be quality back ups.  5-7 are your special teams, or athletic but not typical size high motor players that can be a diamond in the rough.

Do your math. In no way are there ever 128 flawless football players (to get through rounds 3 & 4) in a draft. Once you get below pick #15 of the first round, GMs generally have to pick and choose among increasing development needs. Whether you like it or not, Beane and McDermott are smarter and more knowledgeable than you.

 

You reveal your underdeveloped mind with that "McClappy crap." Heaven forbid a coach stay upbeat in support of his players.

[ngbills]

51 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We said the same about Spencer Brown and Terrel Bernard so I'll give him a year or so.

Not quite. Brown started 10 games as a rookie and Bernard was behind Edmunds and Milano and not expected to contribute. We had a need to DE due to injuries etc and Jackson still could not get on the field and was falling behind guys. 

[The Frankish Reich]

44 minutes ago, 5ths the charm said:

So does McClappy

LOL is overdone, but I literally laughed out loud when I read this!

11 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

You reveal your underdeveloped mind with that "McClappy crap."

Yeah, but you gotta admit he does have a high motor. Doesn't take plays off. Claps to the whistle.

[Walking Tall]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Is he done for the year? Did he ever really begin?

 

This kid is a classic Beane dev project. We'll see in a year or two.

If he was drafted as a development project, and I’m not saying he was, is idiotic. This team is trying to compete for a championship NOW. Draft players you think can contribute to that. Worry about the future next year.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, Walking Tall said:

If he was drafted as a development project, and I’m not saying he was, is idiotic. This team is trying to compete for a championship NOW. Draft players you think can contribute to that. Worry about the future next year.

Joe B repeated many times that the Jackson pick was always more about 2026 than it was this year. I do believe he's correct, as Beane has many times picked for needs that are projected 2 years in advance.

 

On the one hand, I agree that pick could have been used wiser to help this year. There is no argument there. What I would offer is that with both Bosa and AJE scheduled to be free agents, it wasn't the worst plan. Honestly, had he stayed healthy and had a couple nice plays to help us this year as well...that would have been terrific.

[DrDawkinstein]

28 minutes ago, Walking Tall said:

If he was drafted as a development project, and I’m not saying he was, is idiotic. This team is trying to compete for a championship NOW. Draft players you think can contribute to that. Worry about the future next year.

 

Eh, immediate contributions taper off as you go up in rounds. 3rd rounders are often 2nd year potentials. We already had Bosa, Rousseau, and Epenesa at DE. This was always going to be rotation at best.

 

The guys who should be immediately contributing are Hairston, and then Sanders. Luckily, Walker has stepped up.

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

Not quite. Brown started 10 games as a rookie and Bernard was behind Edmunds and Milano and not expected to contribute. We had a need to DE due to injuries etc and Jackson still could not get on the field and was falling behind guys. 

 

Quite. Those 10 starts were shaky at best and people were calling him a bust right away. Bernard looked HORRIBLE that preseason after Edmunds left, his 2nd year, but stepped up once the season began.

 

Point is, there's still hope. (I never liked him as a prospect, but I'm also not writing him off yet because Ive been wrong plenty of times before)

[5ths the charm]

2 hours ago, RochesterLifer said:

Do your math. In no way are there ever 128 flawless football players (to get through rounds 3 & 4) in a draft. Once you get below pick #15 of the first round, GMs generally have to pick and choose among increasing development needs. Whether you like it or not, Beane and McDermott are smarter and more knowledgeable than you.

 

You reveal your underdeveloped mind with that "McClappy crap." Heaven forbid a coach stay upbeat in support of his players.

And we see the respect for others opinions. Don't recall saying flawless. Ability and position are what they are. Everyone can't be a starter, we need back ups and special teams too. Especially when starters are all injured.

[5ths the charm]

2 hours ago, 5ths the charm said:

So does McClappy

Round 3-4 shouldn't be assumed to be flawed.  They should be quality back ups.  5-7 are your special teams, or athletic but not typical size high motor players that can be a diamond in the rough.

In essence I'm agreeing with the selections but because I disagree with the flawed comment, there's a meltdown, lmao. 

[TFBillsfan]

1 hour ago, Walking Tall said:

If he was drafted as a development project, and I’m not saying he was, is idiotic. This team is trying to compete for a championship NOW. Draft players you think can contribute to that. Worry about the future next year.

How good would Xavier Watts look combined with Bishop at S. Watts was on the board but instead we selected Landon who will need to show SIGNIFICANT improvement next year to even be active. 

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

But he had a history of knee issues and he has injured it already.  Noy good when you combine it with how badly he played so far.

 

And the fact this tape didn't scream 9.88 RAS guy. That always makes me suspicious of a "combine monster." That said.... they took him in round 3. That is a reasonable place to take that swing. I don't hate that pick as much as some Beane has made.