Game week thread - Buccaneers at Bills

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

In the NFL nothing is guaranteed. 

 

However, I will guarantee Daboll is not brought in in the middle of a season to run the offense.  And I would offer roughly the same odds he's not brought back in the off-season either. 

[NeverOutNick]

11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

In the NFL nothing is guaranteed. 

 

However, I will guarantee Daboll is not brought in in the middle of a season to run the offense.  And I would offer roughly the same odds he's not brought back in the off-season either. 

But if only he replaced mcD totally in the off-season heck now would even be better, but you’re probably right that it’s not gonna happen

Edited 2 hours ago by NeverOutNick

[Nihilarian]

This game this week is making me very nervous as if they lose to the Bucs and then have Houston on Thursday they could be done. By done I mean then the following  week they face the Steelers, then the Bengals with Burrow back, the Patriots, Browns, Eagles and Jets. Things could go really good or really bad quickly!

 

Instead of a sweep they could be looking at many losses and missing the playoffs. It's all about Bills OC Joe Brady getting his head out of his posterior and finding a way to get any of the receivers on the roster to become valid playmakers. 🤞

[Jrb1979]

4 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

This game this week is making me very nervous as if they lose to the Bucs and then have Houston on Thursday they could be done. By done I mean then the following  week they face the Steelers, then the Bengals with Burrow back, the Patriots, Browns, Eagles and Jets. Things could go really good or really bad quickly!

 

Instead of a sweep they could be looking at many losses and missing the playoffs. It's all about Bills OC Joe Brady getting his head out of his posterior and finding a way to get any of the receivers on the roster to become valid playmakers. 🤞

IMO that's easier said then done. The WRs one this team just aren't that good. 

[Boatdrinks]

9 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

This game this week is making me very nervous as if they lose to the Bucs and then have Houston on Thursday they could be done. By done I mean then the following  week they face the Steelers, then the Bengals with Burrow back, the Patriots, Browns, Eagles and Jets. Things could go really good or really bad quickly!

 

Instead of a sweep they could be looking at many losses and missing the playoffs. It's all about Bills OC Joe Brady getting his head out of his posterior and finding a way to get any of the receivers on the roster to become valid playmakers. 🤞

I don’t feel very confident about the Thursday night @ Houston, but it’s unlikely the Bills lose all the games you listed. I would also guess that Joe Burrow will not return in time to play the Bills @ Highmark. 

51 minutes ago, Urban Achievers said:

If we look putrid on offense again this week - especially from a scheming players open /  pass plays perspective (being much less predictable) - do you think McD pulls a Dorsey? I would guess not unfortunately but curious if anyone else thinks a change is possible. 

I don’t see it. There’s no obvious candidate on staff to take over. At this stage you’re really talking about changing a play caller as it’s too late to install a new offense. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

27 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

But if only he replaced mcD totally in the off-season heck now would even be better, but you’re probably right that it’s not gonna happen

Replace McDermott? Daboll? That would be an absolutely horrendous move. 

[Jrb1979]

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I don’t feel very confident about the Thursday night @ Houston, but it’s unlikely the Bills lose all the games you listed. I would also guess that Joe Burrow will not return in time to play the Bills @ Highmark. 

I agree they will likely win a couple of those games. At the same time I don't see them going a run either. The offense isn't good enough this season 

[CincyBillsFan]

2 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

I'm not saying McDermott is not throttling down the offense but Burrows, Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase are a MUCH more logical explanation.

 

And who is responsible, in part, for Allen, every bit the equal of Burrow, not having a single WR on the roster who would be considered above average in the NFL?

 

 

1 hour ago, T.E. said:

He has six total targets this year. Six. Kincaid is playing roughly a third of the snaps. Meanwhile, the receiver getting the most playing time is Coleman.

 

They have no idea how to utilize offensive players. That's why I didn't care about them not trading for Waddle. Who cares? They could get into a time machine and bring back 1998 Randy Moss, and he wouldn't do dick in this system.

I saw that Allen's QB rating was 151.5 (from pff) when targeting Kincaid.  Yet as you note Kincaid is not on the field as much as the stats demand he should be.  

[BillsFan130]

47 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

In the NFL nothing is guaranteed. 

 

However, I will guarantee Daboll is not brought in in the middle of a season to run the offense.  And I would offer roughly the same odds he's not brought back in the off-season either. 

Haha for sure I agree about the in season as he won't be brought in this year.

 

Off season I wouldn't rule it out though. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

I think this is good advice for everyone. It will lead to a more pleasant and satisfying life. Why make yourself crazy over stuff you cannot control? 

 

AI Overview

The Serenity Prayer is a popular prayer asking for the serenity to accept things one cannot change, the courage to change the things one can, and the wisdom to know the difference. It is widely associated with Reinhold Niebuhr, a Lutheran theologian, and has been adopted by groups like Alcoholics Anonymous as a core part of their program. The main message is to focus on what is within one's control while accepting what is not, promoting inner peace and strength

Exactly! Sound advice for anybody. 

[SCBills]

17 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

IMO that's easier said then done. The WRs one this team just aren't that good. 

Beane could get let go last week for all I care.  His claim to fame is finding JA and he’s middle of the pack at everything else.

 

That said .. other teams in the league that don’t have upper half WR rooms find a way to pass the ball without it looking like an unmitigated disaster on half of their games. 

And those teams don’t have a Top 5 OL, Josh Allen and James Cook. 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

22 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Haha for sure I agree about the in season as he won't be brought in this year.

 

Off season I wouldn't rule it out though. 

 Agree. That's why I put it the way I did with "roughly the same odds". They do seem to like bringing back familiar faces and by most accounts, the McDermott/Daboll relationship has been fixed and they are on good terms. I would agree there is a higher that 0% chance he's brought back if we need an OC in the off-season. 

[quincy]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I don't understand how Codrington still has a roster spot. Especially with all the injuries this year. 

 

It sure would be nice to have a competent CB4/WR4/RB2 to be a KR/PR with the actual threat to have a long kick or punt return and fill his role on O or D. 

 

At no point this year did I feel optimistic that our kick or punt returner would have a clutch return to help shift momentum and good field position. 

 

Codrington was fortunate to make the 53 and stay on it given that I think he has only played 4 games. 

 

Should we make the playoffs, our return game has to be better and at least feel like a threat as opposed to just going through the motions, especially on punt returns. 

[Juice_32]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

This game this week is making me very nervous as if they lose to the Bucs and then have Houston on Thursday they could be done. By done I mean then the following  week they face the Steelers, then the Bengals with Burrow back, the Patriots, Browns, Eagles and Jets. Things could go really good or really bad quickly!

 

Instead of a sweep they could be looking at many losses and missing the playoffs. It's all about Bills OC Joe Brady getting his head out of his posterior and finding a way to get any of the receivers on the roster to become valid playmakers. 🤞

I just told my son..this game is not a must win. But, we can't lose.

[NeverOutNick]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Replace McDermott? Daboll? That would be an absolutely horrendous move. 

The offense was at its height under Daboll. We’ve had 8+ years of McDermott. I don’t need to see anymore to know we will never get to or win a Super Bowl under him. Better yet we will never get the number one seed under him. He’s peaked and his message is stale.

[Success]

One thing about this team - they have consistently put together very good home stretch runs starting around November/ December.   I think our December record in particular has been incredible in the Allen era.

 

I just have this feeling we start another run tomorrow.  There isn't a team on the schedule that this team can't handle if they're motivated & relatively healthy.

 

[Jrb1979]

1 minute ago, Success said:

One thing about this team - they have consistently put together very good home stretch runs starting around November/ December.   I think our December record in particular has been incredible in the Allen era.

 

I just have this feeling we start another run tomorrow.  There isn't a team on the schedule that this team can't handle if they're motivated & relatively healthy.

 

That could happen. I have my doubts just due how the offense plays and built. You need to score often in this league to win most weeks. An offense that uses long drives and eats clock is not going to cut it. 

Add in them having the worst starting field position in the league. A lot has to change for them to go on a run. 

[SCBills]

Just now, Jrb1979 said:

That could happen. I have my doubts just due how the offense plays and built. You need to score often in this league to win most weeks. An offense that uses long drives and eats clock is not going to cut it. 

Add in them having the worst starting field position in the league. A lot has to change for them to go on a run. 

The Bills simply need something, anything, to open up the passing game down field. 
 

Maybe Brady just doesn’t have that in him.. might be a bigger worry for me than personnel at this point.   
 

…because while not world beaters, both Gabe and Palmer can win deep and take the top off.   As opposed to the none of that we’ve had for most of this season. 
 

If we can start hitting stuff downfield, that opens up Shakir to become more than a glorified running back and opens up our run game to be even more dominant. 
 

We never needed a Justin Jefferson, although that would be great.  We simply need competency in our OC and outside WR’s.   Gabe and Palmer (if healthy) are both competent outside WR’s.   Then we need to see if Brady has it in him to not be the anchor that sinks us. 

[Psautcsk]

8 minutes ago, Success said:

One thing about this team - they have consistently put together very good home stretch runs starting around November/ December.   I think our December record in particular has been incredible in the Allen era.

 

I just have this feeling we start another run tomorrow.  There isn't a team on the schedule that this team can't handle if they're motivated & relatively healthy.

 

I agree, until I don't.

[Jrb1979]

Just now, SCBills said:

The Bills simply need something, anything, to open up the passing game down field. 
 

Maybe Brady just doesn’t have that in him.. might be a bigger worry for me than personnel at this point.   
 

…because while not world beaters, both Gabe and Palmer can win deep and take the top off.   As opposed to the none of that we’ve had for most of this season. 
 

If we can start hitting stuff downfield, that opens up Shakir to become more than a glorified running back and opens up our run game to be even more dominant. 
 

We never needed a Justin Jefferson, although that would be great.  We simply need competency in our OC and outside WR’s.   Gabe and Palmer (if healthy) are both competent outside WR’s.   Then we need to see if Brady has it in him to not be the anchor that sinks us. 

I agree but the same time that's a lot of ifs to go right. 

Even when Palmer was healthy they still weren't using him much as a down field threat