I think its over guys.

[gomper]

They never had the makings of a varsity athlete lol.

[ShakAttack]

5 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Not one 1st round WR drafted since Allen got here. ***** mind boggling!

 

That stat is a little misleading in the sense that we used a 1st round pick on Diggs.

 

Having said that, 1 first round pick towards a WR in 2020 is DEFINITELY not enough.

 

Trading DOWN and taking Coleman in a WR Rich draft in 2024 is also NOT enough.

 

EDIT- Especially when there are rumors that JOSH ALLEN is a big part of the reason we went for Coleman. That’s not his job to do! 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by ShakAttack

[Bockeye]

1 hour ago, LarryMadman said:

I dont think they lose to TB and Philly, maybe one but not both at home. Maybe road losses Houston, Pitt, NE. That would give them 7 losses with a easy schedule and they might not get into playoffs with only 9 wins. That would mean they would go 3-7 after starting 4-0, might get McD fired, we'll  see.

 

And Josh probably has close to 4000 yards 30+ TD passes and over 40 total TDs again and Cook going 1500+ rush yards, would be unacceptable to miss the playoffs with that and an easy schedule.

They def lose to Philly and Tampa. The script is out on the Bills. Besides, both of those teams are much more complete teams than the Bulls. 

[Strethor]

1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

I can get behind this...but the big problem is, the man that will likely be working on fixing the roster is the same guy that destroyed it. I can't see Pegula moving on from Beane unless we have a few losing seasons in a row.

At the end of the day, drafting is a crapshoot. But when there is a clear need and Beane sits on his hands and pretends its not a problem I have issues with that.

[ALLinALLEN]

Ever since the 13 seconds game, I haven't been able to rally around the team as "special" or "our year" until last year. I thought we would beat KC in the AFCCG and win it all. At this point, and after so many crushing seasons since JA's rise, I'm just actually exhausted. I'm tired of it all. My dad had seasons from 1980-2008ish, and during the 4 Superbowl losses. When I came onto the scene and was old enough to start caring and wanting to watch games circa 2000, he would rather mow the lawn. Never wanted to watch or care that much about "the bills signed "x" guy!" ( I would exclaim). He lost that desire to really truly care, because of the heartbreak and losses. I'm kind of at that point, pure exhaustion.

 

TLDR: I'm exhausted and finding it really hard to care anymore. 

[Sojourner]

3 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:

 

That stat is a little misleading in the sense that we used a 1st round pick on Diggs.

 

Having said that, 1 first round pick towards a WR in 2020 is DEFINITELY not enough.

 

Trading DOWN and taking Coleman in a WR Rich draft in 2024 is also NOT enough.

 

EDIT- Especially when there are rumors that JOSH ALLEN is a big part of the reason we went for Coleman. That’s not his job to do! 

 

 

So what do they do?

 

Take the Packers recent approach and draft multiple guys each year until you get it right? 

[GolfandBills]

It’s certainly looking pretty bleak moving forward.  Their cap situation next year looks gloomy at best.   

[Success]

1 minute ago, ALLinALLEN said:

Ever since the 13 seconds game, I haven't been able to rally around the team as "special" or "our year" until last year. I thought we would beat KC in the AFCCG and win it all. At this point, and after so many crushing seasons since JA's rise, I'm just actually exhausted. I'm tired of it all. My dad had seasons from 1980-2008ish, and during the 4 Superbowl losses. When I came onto the scene and was old enough to start caring and wanting to watch games circa 2000, he would rather mow the lawn. Never wanted to watch or care that much about "the bills signed "x" guy!" ( I would exclaim). He lost that desire to really truly care, because of the heartbreak and losses. I'm kind of at that point, pure exhaustion.

 

TLDR: I'm exhausted and finding it really hard to care anymore. 

 

I relate quite a bit to this.  

 

I was around for the 4 SB losses.  The "hope" to "disappointment" ratio since then is comically lopsided.

 

Allen gave me a ton of hope - but today, I realized that this could easily be the end of his prime. He looked like a guy who had taken too many hits today, and who had carried a team on his own for too long.

 

Life isn't supposed to be fair. Fans like me might never get to see a title, and it really makes me wonder why I invest so much time & emotion.

 

[DaVinci]

Good thing they sold all those PSLs already. 

[ALLinALLEN]

5 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I relate quite a bit to this.  

 

I was around for the 4 SB losses.  The "hope" to "disappointment" ratio since then is comically lopsided.

 

Allen gave me a ton of hope - but today, I realized that this could easily be the end of his prime. He looked like a guy who had taken too many hits today, and who had carried a team on his own for too long.

 

Life isn't supposed to be fair. Fans like me might never get to see a title, and it really makes me wonder why I invest so much time & emotion.

 

Yeah I think I hit that point last year. I still bleed the bills and live and die by them. But the constant "WE GOT BOSA" or "WE DRAFTED THIS GUY" stuff is just beyond me at this point. I'm physically and mentally exhausted from this team. I honestly don't know how you (or anyone) did 4 straight SB losses, and I commend you all for that seriously. 

 

Still do my yearly Bills away game, and bask in the fandom and the weekend. Still cheer and watch every gameday too. But the mumbo jumbo of the week-to-week chatter about "what-ifs", I'm done and over with. It's simple to say but true for me - Just actually do it please.

[BigdaddyinOrlando]

This game falls squarely on McDermott. Yeah sure we didn’t get the additions we wanted at the deadline, but this team is a basement dweller and no momentum and we freaking lost! All coaching and actually lack there of! Sadly I feel we are on a slow slide to who knows where!! Uughh

[KOKBILLS]

40 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I think it will be a struggle for the Bills to try and repeat as division champion.  I don't their championship window is closed.   They need to find wide receivers and they need to solve the injury bug.  If I'm counting correctly, The Bills started five defensive players who were starters in game one this season, and three of those have lost time this season and might be less than 100%.

9 games played...

Missed games on Defense due (mostly) to injury/suspension...

Hoecht - 7
Ogunjobi - 6
Oliver - 6
Hairston - 6
Sanders - 5
Strong - 5
Hancock - 4
Milano - 4
Jones - 3
Thompson - 3
Johnson - 3
Rapp - 3
Bernard - 1
White - 1
Williams - 1
Epenesa - 1
Benford - 1

 

17 players - 60 games missed - 3.5 per game...

Did not count Damar Hamlin because I'm not sure he would have been playing over Hancock anyway... 

I threw that together real fast so feel free to correct me if I missed something... 


 

Edited 1 hour ago by KOKBILLS

[CincyBillsFan]

8 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said:

Ever since the 13 seconds game, I haven't been able to rally around the team as "special" or "our year" until last year. I thought we would beat KC in the AFCCG and win it all. At this point, and after so many crushing seasons since JA's rise, I'm just actually exhausted. I'm tired of it all. My dad had seasons from 1980-2008ish, and during the 4 Superbowl losses. When I came onto the scene and was old enough to start caring and wanting to watch games circa 2000, he would rather mow the lawn. Never wanted to watch or care that much about "the bills signed "x" guy!" ( I would exclaim). He lost that desire to really truly care, because of the heartbreak and losses. I'm kind of at that point, pure exhaustion.

 

TLDR: I'm exhausted and finding it really hard to care anymore. 

I just don't enjoy watching Bills games like I used to. They're wasting one of the great QB talents of all time and there's something sacrilegious about that.  Here is the franchise that managed to lose 4 straight Super Bowl games (I agonized over each and every one) then spent 18 seasons in football purgatory which was awful to experience and now maybe their greatest sin in wasting the prime years of a QB like Allen.

 

I have a grandson that will be playing HS football in 2 years and I'm a big Ohio State fan.  That may be enough football for me.  Sure I'll be glued to the TV the next few weeks to see if my hunch that the Bills go on a long winning streak plays out.  But my patience is nearing the end.  At least when Allen was turning he ball over more he was making one big play after the other in an offense that was awesome to watch.  Today they've neutered their stallion QB and while the analytics say the offense has been great anyone watching the games knows there is something way off.  

 

In the end it's about wins and losses and this new offense is doing no better then the much more exciting turnover prone offenses of 2020 - 2023. I'll give it the rest of this season but if Bean/McD bet wrong with this new approach to Allen and the offense then I might be done.  

 

 

 

[Lost]

15 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

So what do they do?

 

Take the Packers recent approach and draft multiple guys each year until you get it right? 

 

Be better at evaluating talent.  And scrap the whole culture first business.   Guys like George Pickens were available both the year he got drafted in the 2nd round, and available for a 3rd rounder this offseason.   But he's not a good blocker so McBeane completely overlook guys like that.   He's going to end up with more yards than our entire receiver room combined this season probably.

[LEBills]

11 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

So what do they do?

 

Take the Packers recent approach and draft multiple guys each year until you get it right? 

Yes that is exactly how you do it. Draft guys early every year until you have two good players. And even then you cant go four years before picking the next one early.

[ALLinALLEN]

4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I just don't enjoy watching Bills games like I used to. They're wasting one of the great QB talents of all time and there's something sacrilegious about that.  Here is the franchise that managed to lose 4 straight Super Bowl games (I agonized over each and every one) then spent 18 seasons in football purgatory which was awful to experience and now maybe their greatest sin in wasting the prime years of a QB like Allen.

 

I have a grandson that will be playing HS football in 2 years and I'm a big Ohio State fan.  That may be enough football for me.  Sure I'll be glued to the TV the next few weeks to see if my hunch that the Bills go on a long winning streak plays out.  But my patience is nearing the end.  At least when Allen was turning he ball over more he was making one big play after the other in an offense that was awesome to watch.  Today they've neutered their stallion QB and while the analytics say the offense has been great anyone watching the games knows there is something way off.  

 

In the end it's about wins and losses and this new offense is doing no better then the much more exciting turnover prone offenses of 2020 - 2023. I'll give it the rest of this season but if Bean/McD bet wrong with this new approach to Allen and the offense then I might be done.  

 

 

 

I'm here, precisely, and I'm probably 30 years younger than you. It's sickening.

[buffblue]

22 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said:

Ever since the 13 seconds game, I haven't been able to rally around the team as "special" or "our year" until last year. I thought we would beat KC in the AFCCG and win it all. At this point, and after so many crushing seasons since JA's rise, I'm just actually exhausted. I'm tired of it all. My dad had seasons from 1980-2008ish, and during the 4 Superbowl losses. When I came onto the scene and was old enough to start caring and wanting to watch games circa 2000, he would rather mow the lawn. Never wanted to watch or care that much about "the bills signed "x" guy!" ( I would exclaim). He lost that desire to really truly care, because of the heartbreak and losses. I'm kind of at that point, pure exhaustion.

 

TLDR: I'm exhausted and finding it really hard to care anymore. 

I understand completely. Buffalo sports are so draining. All I want is to share a championship moment with my father while he is still on this earth and it feels like our greatest hope is slowly being wasted away

[Johnnycage46]

Just now, ALLinALLEN said:

I'm here, precisely, and I'm probably 30 years younger than you. It's sickening.

I find myself wanting a SB victory in part so I can be done watching football. Sounds weird, but I cant just walk away with it unfinished, but I also hate the ups and downs and fruatration that goes along with being a fan.

[Sojourner]

9 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

Be better at evaluating talent.  And scrap the whole culture first business.   Guys like George Pickens were available both the year he got drafted in the 2nd round, and available for a 3rd rounder this offseason.   But he's not a good blocker so McBeane completely overlook guys like that.   He's going to end up with more yards than our entire receiver room combined this season probably.

That is something to take on board but sometimes it’s just the player who doesn’t pan out. 
 

How many guys have walked into the coaching standards and successes of the Reid’s, Belichick’s, Shula’s, Schottenheimer’s, Knox’s, Payton’s, McCarthy’s etc and done jack diddely squat?

 

The amount of extremely successful WRs in t college who haven’t done anything in the league or are even pedestrian is laughable. 
 

It’s sometimes like a QB… you get drafting or acquiring until you finally get it right. Especially now that we have the hardest position to find: a top end quarterback, let alone a unicorn. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Sojourner

[Success]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I just don't enjoy watching Bills games like I used to. They're wasting one of the great QB talents of all time and there's something sacrilegious about that.  Here is the franchise that managed to lose 4 straight Super Bowl games (I agonized over each and every one) then spent 18 seasons in football purgatory which was awful to experience and now maybe their greatest sin in wasting the prime years of a QB like Allen.

 

I have a grandson that will be playing HS football in 2 years and I'm a big Ohio State fan.  That may be enough football for me.  Sure I'll be glued to the TV the next few weeks to see if my hunch that the Bills go on a long winning streak plays out.  But my patience is nearing the end.  At least when Allen was turning he ball over more he was making one big play after the other in an offense that was awesome to watch.  Today they've neutered their stallion QB and while the analytics say the offense has been great anyone watching the games knows there is something way off.  

 

In the end it's about wins and losses and this new offense is doing no better then the much more exciting turnover prone offenses of 2020 - 2023. I'll give it the rest of this season but if Bean/McD bet wrong with this new approach to Allen and the offense then I might be done.  

 

 

 

 

Sums it up for me.

 

The drought was crazy. And I really stuck it out w/ this team during those years.  

 

This is supposed to be our reward for that.  Getting a QB like Allen is something every fanbase dreams of.  And we're just wasting it.

 

It's too much, for any fan.  I don't like how I'm feeling right now.  I don't like what this game does to me emotionally.  

 

The only question that remains for me is whether I really have the capability of walking away.  Can I just do something else on a Sunday, without checking my phone for scores all day, and not even checking to see if we won or lost? 

 

Probably not. It's a horrible addiction.