Perspective Matters: The Offense Is Producing

[Magox]

Let's take a breath and look at what the offense is actually doing before we spiral over not getting a WR before the trade deadline.

 

Here are some facts that might help bring a little levity to the conversation:

 

Total Yards/Game: 385 – 1st in the NFL

Points/Game: 29.4 – 3rd in the NFL

Rushing Yards/Game: 161.5 – 1st in the NFL

Yards/Play: 6.1 – 3rd in the NFL

Passing Yards/Game: 224 – 14th in the NFL

Yards/Pass Attempt: 8.2 – 4th in the NFL

Yards/Rush: 5.0 – 4th in the NFL

Red Zone TD %: 67.74% – 9th in the NFL

Completion %: 69.9% – 7th in the NFL

Third Down Conversion: 45.65% – 5th in the NFL

 

These are damn good numbers. This offense is efficient, productive, and balanced. We’re top-tier in yards, points, and play efficiency. The passing game may not be flashy in total yards, but it’s highly efficient—top 5 in yards per attempt and completion percentage.

Could we have added a WR? Sure. But let’s not ignore what’s already working. This team is moving the ball, scoring points, and doing it with balance and precision.  And the WR room gets better with Palmer back into the fold and I do think Gabe Davis will help on those scramble drills which seem to be missing this year.

Let’s keep perspective. The season is long, and the offense is already doing more than enough to win games.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

If you read this in Brandon Beanes' voice it really adds to it.

Edited 44 minutes ago by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[ScotSHO]

Pro - Very good offensive numbers.

Con - Played the easy side of the schedule.

 

[Dillenger4]

9 minutes ago, Magox said:

Let's take a breath and look at what the offense is actually doing before we spiral over not getting a WR before the trade deadline.

 

Here are some facts that might help bring a little levity to the conversation:

 

Total Yards/Game: 385 – 1st in the NFL

Points/Game: 29.4 – 3rd in the NFL

Rushing Yards/Game: 161.5 – 1st in the NFL

Yards/Play: 6.1 – 3rd in the NFL

Passing Yards/Game: 224 – 14th in the NFL

Yards/Pass Attempt: 8.2 – 4th in the NFL

Yards/Rush: 5.0 – 4th in the NFL

Red Zone TD %: 67.74% – 9th in the NFL

Completion %: 69.9% – 7th in the NFL

Third Down Conversion: 45.65% – 5th in the NFL

 

These are damn good numbers. This offense is efficient, productive, and balanced. We’re top-tier in yards, points, and play efficiency. The passing game may not be flashy in total yards, but it’s highly efficient—top 5 in yards per attempt and completion percentage.

Could we have added a WR? Sure. But let’s not ignore what’s already working. This team is moving the ball, scoring points, and doing it with balance and precision.  And the WR room gets better with Palmer back into the fold and I do think Gabe Davis will help on those scramble drills which seem to be missing this year.

Let’s keep perspective. The season is long, and the offense is already doing more than enough to win games.

Perfect post! I agree with you. And to add to your point, I feel like we haven't opened the playbook "yet". Meaning, we have plays that we will use as we need to towards the playoffs. This offense is not a finished product, yet.

Also - we didn't make a move but neither did most of the teams we are fighting in the AFC. Only the Colts did.

Just now, ScotSHO said:

Pro - Very good offensive numbers.

Con - Played the easy side of the schedule.

 

Played the easy side of the sked??? Are you joking? Baltimore, Chiefs. It get's easy now man. Eagles second last game of season screams "won't matter" most likely.

Interesting take.

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

Pro - Very good offensive numbers.

Con - Played the easy side of the schedule.

 

 

The best game we played was against the Super Bowl favorites.

[BillsVet]

Funny that people point always to metrics which is more just seeing the trees but not the forest.  

 

Buffalo's strength of schedule is 15th in the AFC and 30th overall.  As it stands, they've played 1 team thus far that would make the playoffs and even counting KC, then that's 2 out of 8 games.  They have 4 more the rest of the way.    

 

Every playoffs the competition is better and there's more motivating players because more is at stake.   What worked in the regular season has been borne out to not be as effective in the post-season which was on display against KC in their last playoff loss (cue the 29 points scored refrain poster).  

Edited 1 hour ago by BillsVet

[ClosetFan]

Speaking of perspective:People seem to get twisted in knots about how the team is managed. Just keep in mind that these are just a bunch of millionaires tossing a ball around for your entertainment. It has no impact on your life.

[JGMcD2]

13 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

Funny that people point always to metrics which is more just seeing the trees but not the forest.  

 

Buffalo's strength of schedule is 15th in the AFC and 30th overall.  As it stands, they've played 1 team thus far that would make the playoffs and even counting KC, then that's 2 out of 8 games.  They have 4 more the rest of the way.    

 

Every playoffs the competition is better and there's more motivating players because more is at stake.   What worked in the regular season has been borne out to not be as effective in the post-season which was on display against KC in their last playoff loss (cue the 29 points scored refrain poster).  

Let’s not get things skewed. Baltimore and Kansas City are still Top 5 teams in the AFC, and quite possibly the NFL. Especially the Baltimore team we faced week 1. 
 

The Colts, Patriots and Broncos schedules may look better by SOS after 8 weeks, but they’ve had cupcakes left and right. 

[PaattMaann]

32 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

Pro - Very good offensive numbers.

Con - Played the easy side of the schedule.

 

 

Pro - in our difficult game, against the Chiefs, the offense ate

[BillsVet]

9 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Let’s not get things skewed. Baltimore and Kansas City are still Top 5 teams in the AFC, and quite possibly the NFL. Especially the Baltimore team we faced week 1. 
 

The Colts, Patriots and Broncos schedules may look better by SOS after 8 weeks, but they’ve had cupcakes left and right. 

 

I don't care. 

 

Buffalo was second in points scored last year, third in point differential, etc. during the regular season.  And they still barely got past Baltimore in the Divisional Round game and had to grind it out in the AFC CG.  

 

The offense is built to succeed in the regular season and falters under the weight of greater expectations and pressure in the post-season.      

[BillsShredder83]

21 minutes ago, ClosetFan said:

Speaking of perspective:People seem to get twisted in knots about how the team is managed. Just keep in mind that these are just a bunch of millionaires tossing a ball around for your entertainment. It has no impact on your life.

My wife said this yesterday to me. Listen, its true, but I dont like it lol

 

I cant grasp the words for what this team means to me. It was planted in my soul quite literally at birth. Some of my first memories, I was 3yrs old, were from those Super Bowls.

 

I dont remember the games, but I remember the electricity around them.  I was 3yrs-7yrs for that SB run.

 

Ive seen how juiced up this town and fanbase gets for an AFCCG, and its a drug. Then I remember I was born in an environment even more intoxicating than what ive seen as an adult. Seriously, some of my first blips of memories are my dad and his friends crying at the end of, what I believe is the first 2 SBs.

 

My family gave me this disease. I want a Chip for me, my family that brought me into this, the community, and now Josh. I put that man on a pedestal, ill never have a new favorite football (or sports) player in my life. 

 

Winning a ring in the future without Josh would hurt me to my core! I want to see him win one here. Or at the least, see him win one somewhere else, but only if hes like 40, and some scenario he cant help sends him to a contender lol

 

So yes, its just billionaire toys but damn its a big piece of all of us

[CirclnWagons]

We have the best QB in the league and what is looking like the best RB in the league and that helps open up avenues for what is a lower tier corp of receivers. Facts are facts. Could they get better as the year goes on and could Brady do a better job of scheming them open? Absolutely! But a legitimate #1 receiver could’ve really blown the lid off what’s already a superb offense. Wishful thinking I guess

[Kirby Jackson]

For me, there are 2 clear flaws and it has been exposed multiple times this year (in wins and losses). The guys on the outside can’t get open and they can’t stop the run. I won’t say that they’re “easy” to defend because they have scored a lot. They’re easy to game plan for though because there are certain areas that you don’t need to defend.
 

The Bills can absolutely win the Super Bowl but there is a formula that’s fairly limited that needs to play out for that to happen. They NEED to play from in front. Their offense can control the clock and run the ball. The defense can get after the passer and don’t have to worry about defending the run. The fear is, you get behind in a playoff game (let’s say Indy). Now, your defense, which was allowing the most YPC since like 1960’until last week, needs to stop Taylor and that elite OL. You can’t just play to your strength of running and ball control offense because it takes too long to close the gap. Now, you’re forced to throw to trash WRs (except Shakir), TEs who will be the focus of the defense and RBs that you refuse to throw to. 
 

It is not that the Bills aren’t great or that they can’t win. It’s they aren’t multiple enough to win in a variety of ways. One move, even someone like Shaheed, makes them more likely to win in the above mentioned situation. They can make chunk plays. They can keep safeties away from the LOS. There is a trickle down impact.

[dave mcbride]

55 minutes ago, ScotSHO said:

Pro - Very good offensive numbers.

Con - Played the easy side of the schedule.

 

KC's defense is extremely good, NE's defense is extremely good, and Carolina's is better than average. Yet the Bills put up over 400 yards vs both Carolina and KC. They put up 363 vs. NE. Finally, in the first game of the season, Baltimore was unquestionably elite because they were healthy (plus they had the best defense in the league by far the second half of last season). The Bills shredded them - 497 yards and 41 points.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, ScotSHO said:

Pro - Very good offensive numbers.

Con - Played the easy side of the schedule.

 

The schedule shook out weird…the first half was a ton of easy games but the two hard games were probably the hardest games on the schedule. Philly is up there too but at least if we lose that one it’s out of conference.  

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[dave mcbride]

13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

For me, there are 2 clear flaws and it has been exposed multiple times this year (in wins and losses). The guys on the outside can’t get open and they can’t stop the run. I won’t say that they’re “easy” to defend because they have scored a lot. They’re easy to game plan for though because there are certain areas that you don’t need to defend.
 

The Bills can absolutely win the Super Bowl but there is a formula that’s fairly limited that needs to play out for that to happen. They NEED to play from in front. Their offense can control the clock and run the ball. The defense can get after the passer and don’t have to worry about defending the run. The fear is, you get behind in a playoff game (let’s say Indy). Now, your defense, which was allowing the most YPC since like 1960’until last week, needs to stop Taylor and that elite OL. You can’t just play to your strength of running and ball control offense because it takes too long to close the gap. Now, you’re forced to throw to trash WRs (except Shakir), TEs who will be the focus of the defense and RBs that you refuse to throw to. 
 

It is not that the Bills aren’t great or that they can’t win. It’s they aren’t multiple enough to win in a variety of ways. One move, even someone like Shaheed, makes them more likely to win in the above mentioned situation. They can make chunk plays. They can keep safeties away from the LOS. There is a trickle down impact.

Does a healthy Josh Palmer who is more integrated into the offense (and hence receiving more targets) move the needle for you? I ask because his separation stats are pretty good: https://sports.yahoo.com/article/7-things-know-buffalo-bills-164148184.html

51 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

Funny that people point always to metrics which is more just seeing the trees but not the forest.  

 

Buffalo's strength of schedule is 15th in the AFC and 30th overall.  As it stands, they've played 1 team thus far that would make the playoffs and even counting KC, then that's 2 out of 8 games.  They have 4 more the rest of the way.    

 

Every playoffs the competition is better and there's more motivating players because more is at stake.   What worked in the regular season has been borne out to not be as effective in the post-season which was on display against KC in their last playoff loss (cue the 29 points scored refrain poster).  

Going to echo others here, but that Baltimore team that the Bills faced was elite. They weren't by games 4-5 because of a ridiculous number of injuries to key players, but that was an impressive win. I actually expect them to win the AFC North at the end of the day. They still have two games vs Pittsburgh, so they control their own fate.

Edited 1 hour ago by dave mcbride

[ScotSHO]

5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

The schedule shook out weird…the first half was a ton of easy games but the two hard games were probably the hardest games on the schedule. Philly is up there too but at least if we lose that one it’s out of conference.  

 

And the Bengals have turned back into the Bungles.  Watch they go and lose that game but beat Philly.

[NoSaint]

14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

For me, there are 2 clear flaws and it has been exposed multiple times this year (in wins and losses). The guys on the outside can’t get open and they can’t stop the run. I won’t say that they’re “easy” to defend because they have scored a lot. They’re easy to game plan for though because there are certain areas that you don’t need to defend.
 

The Bills can absolutely win the Super Bowl but there is a formula that’s fairly limited that needs to play out for that to happen. They NEED to play from in front. Their offense can control the clock and run the ball. The defense can get after the passer and don’t have to worry about defending the run. The fear is, you get behind in a playoff game (let’s say Indy). Now, your defense, which was allowing the most YPC since like 1960’until last week, needs to stop Taylor and that elite OL. You can’t just play to your strength of running and ball control offense because it takes too long to close the gap. Now, you’re forced to throw to trash WRs (except Shakir), TEs who will be the focus of the defense and RBs that you refuse to throw to. 
 

It is not that the Bills aren’t great or that they can’t win. It’s they aren’t multiple enough to win in a variety of ways. One move, even someone like Shaheed, makes them more likely to win in the above mentioned situation. They can make chunk plays. They can keep safeties away from the LOS. There is a trickle down impact.

bingo. 
 

If we are even/behind to a two dimensional offense it’ll be hard to slow the steam roll effect

 

Then on the other side they can clog the middle of the field and keep us in front of them, key off on a pass rush and we are stuck hoping that somebody can wiggle through with yac which has been hard to rely on consistently drive in and drive out when they have those extra defenders waiting 

 

it’s the same thing we’ve seen from the rams, Texans, at times ravens, Atlanta, sometimes the jets. 

 

We go from a powerhouse to a coin flip quickly and needing 3-4 coin flips in a row is tough.

Edited 1 hour ago by NoSaint

[Kirby Jackson]

5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Does a healthy Josh Palmer who is more integrated into the offense (and hence receiving more targets) move the needle for you? I ask because his separation stats are pretty good: https://sports.yahoo.com/article/7-things-know-buffalo-bills-164148184.html

Good question. Um, he’s the best of the bunch. He absolutely makes them better than they are today. I’d also probably try giving Moore more routes (no pun intended). Maybe you can cobble together just enough to keep defenses honest. That way you can still run the ball and work the underneath stuff.

[JerseyBills]

I'll take what should've been 30+ points and 400+ yards all day , idc how it happens personally,  if it's 10 players touching it or 2 players , plus Palmer will be back soon , this fan base is tripping on Beane