LAMP - Anyone else still overall pessimistic about this season/Super Bowl chances?

[Buffalo Boy]

39 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Honestly how do people with that sort of outlook live? I genuinely do not understand it. 

 

Saying "I'm not gonna judge this team until the post season" totally fair. But to say about any perennial play off team that you can't even enjoy regular season wins.... I mean if you can't enjoy wins then sports are not for you. Because any team. In any sport. Over a lifetime as a fan... there will be a lot of losing and a majority of non championship seasons. If that means you can't enjoy it then go do something else.

“There is a season to reap and a season to sow”

   There is an ebb and flow to every great team, every great career.

Watching a bonafide first ballot HOF QB join your team, especially when it isn’t clear that the HOF status is a possibility, is gold. It is a time to be awestruck and giddy.

   Watching said QB come into his own before your own eyes and lead a team is gold. These are the seasons sports fans dream of.

    Watching a QB of that caliber be squandered and be saddled with a sub par team and/or coaching feels criminal. Not being overly enthusiastic is within the range of normal human reaction.
    I always remember the Seinfeld line, “ cockeyed optimist” when I read that people looked at this team, this offseason , and thought they were SB quality.

   The objective eye test pointed to a middling season. What we couldn’t know was Josh was going to regress/ have a down year( for whatever reason ….him or coaching) . That fact alone feels like a gut punch. 

    Every year doesn’t start from square one. The expectations of each and every team in any sport, and league are based on the previous year(s) outcomes to some degree. That being a factor in the level of enjoyment felt seems perfectly logical.

[Gugny]

18 hours ago, Virgil said:

Ugh, while I hate a LAMP post, I've been struggling with my disconnect from the Bills season so far and more so am curious to see if anyone else is feeling the same way.  

We don’t have a Super Bowl roster or a Super Bowl coaching staff. 
 

We have a great QB and a great RB. 

 

That’s simply not enough. 

[GunnerBill]

36 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

“There is a season to reap and a season to sow”

   There is an ebb and flow to every great team, every great career.

Watching a bonafide first ballot HOF QB join your team, especially when it isn’t clear that the HOF status is a possibility, is gold. It is a time to be awestruck and giddy.

   Watching said QB come into his own before your own eyes and lead a team is gold. These are the seasons sports fans dream of.

    Watching a QB of that caliber be squandered and be saddled with a sub par team and/or coaching feels criminal. Not being overly enthusiastic is within the range of normal human reaction.
    I always remember the Seinfeld line, “ cockeyed optimist” when I read that people looked at this team, this offseason , and thought they were SB quality.

   The objective eye test pointed to a middling season. What we couldn’t know was Josh was going to regress/ have a down year( for whatever reason ….him or coaching) . That fact alone feels like a gut punch. 

    Every year doesn’t start from square one. The expectations of each and every team in any sport, and league are based on the previous year(s) outcomes to some degree. That being a factor in the level of enjoyment felt seems perfectly logical.

 

It isn't about optimism or pessimism. It is about tying enjoyment only to championships. That's not a healthy way to consume sports. I want the Bills to win a Superbowl as badly as anybody. But I don't not enjoy regular season wins in case they don't win the Superbowl. You have to enjoy wins in sport. Every single one. 

[Buffalo Boy]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It isn't about optimism or pessimism. It is about tying enjoyment only to championships. That's not a healthy way to consume sports. I want the Bills to win a Superbowl as badly as anybody. But I don't not enjoy regular season wins in case they don't win the Superbowl. You have to enjoy wins in sport. Every single one. 

Fanatic…..therein lies the problem.

 

I’m not the only one who’s been a Bills Fanatic for decades and decades…..46 seasons for me.

 

I have been in Charlotte since 1998. I enjoy watching the Panthers. 2015 was a Great season for them. When they got stomped in the SB…..meh. It didn’t hurt…..not my team.

 

We will never have another JA level QB on the Bills in my lifetime. My eye test told me years ago that we needed a new regime if we were to win it all. They still tell me that. 
BUT, I’m a Bills Fanatic. I have no choice but to watch and want! 
ZERO Choice

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Fanatic…..therein lies the problem.

 

I’m not the only one who’s been a Bills Fanatic for decades and decades…..46 seasons for me.

 

I have been in Charlotte since 1998. I enjoy watching the Panthers. 2015 was a Great season for them. When they got stomped in the SB…..meh. It didn’t hurt…..not my team.

 

We will never have another JA level QB on the Bills in my lifetime. My eye test told me years ago that we needed a new regime if we were to win it all. They still tell me that. 
BUT, I’m a Bills Fanatic. I have no choice but to watch and want! 
ZERO Choice

Listen I’m as pessimistic on this regime as anyone.

 

i enjoyed the heck out of watching James Cook run all over the Panthers. 
 

You can do both.

[Buffalo Boy]

Just now, FireChans said:

Listen I’m as pessimistic on this regime as anyone.

 

i enjoyed the heck out of watching James Cook run all over the Panthers. 
 

You can do both.

I watched the game, I did, receipts in the game thread, Dalton looking afraid to run and getting stripped= gold, doesn’t change my outlook.

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

I watched the game, I did, receipts in the game thread, Dalton looking afraid to run and getting stripped= gold, doesn’t change my outlook.

The point is it doesn’t need to change your outlook to enjoy it.

[Fan in Chicago]

18 hours ago, Virgil said:

 

Yes, I'm rambling a bit and don't have the answers.  All I know is, I didn't enjoy the win yesterday as I should have.  I don't have the any real optimism about this team anymore.  I wish it wasn't the case, but it's just how I feel.  I'm still not going to miss a game.  I'm still going to wear by gear.  But even with the Chiefs game this week, I feel like it's a lose lose.  If we win, it keeps us up with the Pats and gives us the tie breaker for the one seed, but we've seen what beating the Chiefs in the regular season gets us.   If we lose, which I think we will, then I feel like the one seed and division are gone.  .

Very much my feelings as well. The sports depression set in after the Falcons game and has increased with every Patriots win. In the drought years,  there was sadness but at least there was "we don't have a QB" to cling to as a self therapy. But knowing you have one of the best QBs in the league and yet cannot show continued excellence on O is really pretty bad.  On D, we have some hopes of younger and new players who could improve our D. On O, it is quite bad and gets worse with every injury (Kincaid,  Palmer etc).

 

I can't believe Beane is so stubborn and stupid to not know what the obvious holes are.  

[Sweats]

What always seems to squash my beliefs and hopes is that.........if the Bills of the 90's with the best all-around roster on D and O that the franchise has ever seen by far, with an all-star cast of future HOF's and HOF coaching, they couldn't win even one SB in four tries.

 

Look at our roster today........does that look like a roster built for a SB?

We have one HOF player on the team.......JA (maybe Cook, but that's a stretch right now). There is no one else.

 

Zero HOF players on D and most look like they are even lucky to be in the NFL.

No one on this coaching staff or FO will ever wear that gold jacket.

 

Face it, Bills fans, we are stuck in the mire, treading quicksand that just keeps sucking this franchise even deeper into despair.

Beane will not back down on his authoritarian style of always knowing the best for this team and we just have to face it, that there is no help coming.

This is the team that the FO has built.........we've "hit" on one player.

 

Over and out.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It isn't about optimism or pessimism. It is about tying enjoyment only to championships. That's not a healthy way to consume sports. I want the Bills to win a Superbowl as badly as anybody. But I don't not enjoy regular season wins in case they don't win the Superbowl. You have to enjoy wins in sport. Every single one. 

I’m approaching 40 years of being a Bills fan. Many on TBD have been with them since the beginning. 
 

I enjoy every win. 
 

But every season of the Allen era that goes by without a Super Bowl is nothing short of a failure. 
 

I feel like I’ve been patient. 
 

Show me the mother f*cking baby. 
 

[ddaryl]

I am pessimistic about any chance of making the SB this year. If we do not make the SB then we neeed to gut salary from the existing roster, and set up for Josh Allens back 9 of his career.

However I am waiting ot see how this defense looks with players back. Also want to see some better schemes for the O getting guys open.

We cannot simply keep playing the same salary cap dance and expect the team to get over the hump. Beane / McDermott need to draft much better and not have to rely of secondary FA signing to fill a roster out.