Ed Oliver bicep injury - likely out regular season

[HOUSE]

The doctors today are amazing

 

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[RunTheBall]

7 minutes ago, boyst said:

I think with the advancement in sports med it could be closer to the WC than people realize. 8-9 weeks.

 

The work they're doing with soft tissue injuries is amazing. 

Negative. I don’t think he’s back this season. It’s a 3 month injury at best and that’s coming back with a heavy brace to keep the elbow from getting hyperextended. He’s done for the season. 

 

Oliver is now part of the All Glass team which includes Milano, Bernard, Samuel, and Spector (if you consider him still part of the team).

 

What a joke

 

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

The doctors today are amazing

 

 

Well, yes, some of them certainly are. 

[TheFunPolice]

I would think strength in the arm would be an issue even after it's healed?

 

Or even upper body strength in general. I imagine lifting and strength training would be hard with this injury 

[Maynard]

Damn, is it Christmas morning already? Things couldn’t get any better.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

His profile on every website is 310.  
 

Yeah I’m going to call BS on this. You’re right that the number is listed, but there just isn’t a practical way this is possible:

Joey Bosa - 280

Ed Oliver - 287

Larry Ogunjobi - 305

He outweighs all these guys? Bosa by THIRTY pounds? 
 

Something is off 

[milfandcookies]

Did he fall off his horse?

[EmotionallyUnstable]

5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

JJ Watt was a 297 lb defensive end.. hoecht was my favorite acquisition... He's going to be a fan favorite

Yeah idk about this. Most sources listed him more like 288-290. He’s also an inch taller than Hoecht and he’s 20 fewer lbs? There is just no way. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Yeah I’m going to call BS on this. You’re right that the number is listed, but there just isn’t a practical way this is possible:

Joey Bosa - 280

Ed Oliver - 287

Larry Ogunjobi - 305

He outweighs all these guys? Bosa by THIRTY pounds? 
 

Something is off 

I kinda buy it. His legs are freaking tree trunks. Lots of muscle mass. Bosa has skinnier legs. 

[Royale with Cheese]

9 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Yeah I’m going to call BS on this. You’re right that the number is listed, but there just isn’t a practical way this is possible:

Joey Bosa - 280

Ed Oliver - 287

Larry Ogunjobi - 305

He outweighs all these guys? Bosa by THIRTY pounds? 
 

Something is off 

I looked him up when I saw him at the game and he was bigger than I thought.

I don’t think he is 310, but he’s got to be in the 280’s at least.  He is bigger than Oliver.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I kinda buy it. His legs are freaking tree trunks. Lots of muscle mass. Bosa has skinnier legs. 

 

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I looked him up when I saw him at the game and he was bigger than I thought.

I don’t think he is 310, but he’s got to be in the 280’s at least.  He is bigger than Oliver.

280s makes sense. 
 

I just can’t believe he’s almost the same size as 6’6” Zion Logue 

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Yeah idk about this. Most sources listed him more like 288-290. He’s also an inch taller than Hoecht and he’s 20 fewer lbs? There is just no way. 

There is no way hoecht is 285-290 or there's no way JJ Watt was 295?

 

Hoecht was huge at Brown easily in the 300s so he can hold weight

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

280s makes sense. 
 

I just can’t believe he’s almost the same size as 6’6” Zion Logue 

The old adage that muscle weighs more than fat applies here, I think. 

 

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

The old adage that muscle weighs more than fat applies here, I think. 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

There is no way hoecht is 285-290 or there's no way JJ Watt was 295?

 

Hoecht was huge at Brown easily in the 300s so he can hold weight

Cameron Heyward - 6’5 295

Derrick Harmon - 6’4 313

 

Are you expecting him to play DT? I can do this all day so I’ll spare you my boneheadedness I just don’t see how he’d be playing the edge that weight. 

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

Cameron Heyward - 6’5 295

Derrick Harmon - 6’4 313

 

Are you expecting him to play DT? I can do this all day so I’ll spare you my boneheadedness I just don’t see how he’d be playing the edge that weight. 

Well he might not be 310 lb like listed lol

 

He could be 290 tho... Even Chris Jones plays on the edge occasionally and he's 300 lb it does happen occasionally

 

Hoecht like Lorenzo Alexander has been everything from 300 lb to 260 but he looks a lot bigger than 260-270 right now.. I'd say he's probably 285 290

 

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[EmotionallyUnstable]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

Well he might not be 310 lb like listed lol

 

He could be 290 tho... Even Chris Jones plays on the edge occasionally and he's 300 lb it does happen occasionally

Yep I agree and these are obvious passing downs. Hoecht’s snaps on the IDL have been the Solomon 3rd DE interior rusher. We saw him lined up over the C on Oliver’s sack in the first drive. 
 

I’ll give you 290 even 295. But this dude is not Calais Campbell. 
 

Despite my rant, I am very excited about his “disruptor” level that I think he brings to the DL. 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Yep I agree and these are obvious passing downs. Hoecht’s snaps on the IDL have been the Solomon 3rd DE interior rusher. We saw him lined up over the C on Oliver’s sack in the first drive. 
 

I’ll give you 290 even 295. But this dude is not Calais Campbell. 
 

Despite my rant, I am very excited about his “disruptor” level that I think he brings to the DL. 

 

Well Calais Campbell is a Hall of famer.. this guy is finding his niche in the NFL still

 

But he's been an off-ball linebacker defensive end defensive tackle in college it shows he's a pure football player

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[EmotionallyUnstable]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Well Calais Campbell is a Hall of famer.. this guy is finding his niche in the NFL still

 

But he's been an off-ball linebacker defensive end defensive tackle in college it shows he's a pure football player

I meant in terms of size. Calais is 6’6” 315 which is reportedly only 5 lbs heavier that Hoecht (despite being two inches taller). 

[Richard Noggin]

The Hoecht weight debate is ignoring all team-related nuggets (Chris Brown and Sal Cappaccio and the gang) saying ~260 lbs? He could be a little heavier after his offseason strength training regimen...ahem...but he's nowhere near 280 to my amateur eye. 

[BillsShredder83]

7 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Anyone interested in Calais Campbell? He'd have to agree to a trade (no sure thing), but he's still productive: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CampCa99.htm. AZ's season is probably over given that division and I can see them being sellers.

Yes. Cost cant be bad, itd tske a bad front office to tell the man no to a run. Exactly the type of dude you gi after here. Might not get volune of plays, but enough in tank to turn it on when needed.

 

We've expressed interest too before

6 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

The Hoecht weight debate is ignoring all team-related nuggets (Chris Brown and Sal Cappaccio and the gang) saying ~260 lbs? He could be a little heavier after his offseason strength training regimen...ahem...but he's nowhere near 280 to my amateur eye. 

Its fun because nobody knows or will know lol front office proli told the PR team to check Wikipedia and just throw those stats up 🤣😭🤣