Avisan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Just now, GottaRun said: Fun fact - the fossil Shakira was 43 when she played the half time show, the Rolling Stones 58, 60, 62, and 64.... The Who 64 and 65 Shakira was also objectively incredible from an aesthetic and performance standpoint, even if her style is not your preference Like the woman has always been talented and clearly puts in the work, at a certain point you gotta recognize game even if you don't care for it 2 5 1 Quote
90sBills Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 17 minutes ago, boyst said: I'd rather not be inundated with hoodrats preach to me about how hard their life is when they make millions I just want to watch football. Well, it’s a good thing there aren’t any football played during haftime when these acts perform. Maybe go grab a beer and chill? 1 2 3 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: This entire thread has so many dog whistles in it that it made the Chiefs Planet HoF. Cant even move it to PPP, it's going straight to 4Chan 4 1 Quote
boyst Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 37 minutes ago, Avisan said: Guys I don't know how to tell you this but people under the age of 40 are an important source of continued revenue for the league Trotting out the lip-syncing corpse of The Who didn't exactly do the trick The NFL halftime show has never been "legitimate," whatever that means, it's a marketing partnership between private entities, and to pretend like the NFL doesn't pander to "middle America" on a weekly basis is genuinely hilarious Oh I don't disagree, the who was terrible. But getting somewhere in between the 30 and 50 year old audience that spend the money is what they should be focused on 22 minutes ago, 90sBills said: Well, it’s a good thing there aren’t any football played during haftime when these acts perform. Maybe go grab a beer and chill? I really haven't watched the super bowl in multiple years, so I don't care who the halftime show is truly I would watch it if it was something fun or interesting, I would probably watch Taylor Swift even. Mixing it all up to hit all of the spectrum of the audience would be something to the right direction. From post Malone to Garth Brooks there could be a wide array of people to get on the stage and perform that could appeal to an entire audience. I know very few people over the age of 35 that actually care who the performance is going to be. Luckily gone are the days where the rolling Stones The who or Prince are gone. My dream would be something where nine inch nails oversees it with post Malone and the cure being the featured artists. Edited 8 hours ago by boyst Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 51 minutes ago, boyst said: Rocnation and the gimic that is JayZ has a strangle on the NFL with these performances. The NFL doesn't want to appeal to its base. It wants to continuously tap a new market. It has for some time with urban and hip hop. Alienating the middle America base of classic rock, country, and modern rock even (garage, punk, hardcore, alternative). Instead they go with wannabe thugs, polarizing figures, and before that boring safe folks. The issues began with nipplegate when you were probably 10 or less. Justin misogynistic Timberlake and Janet set up a desperate move for attention by stripping her top off on national TV which embarrassed the league. The NFL went safe for a while but in fitting with their wife beating allowance followed: The fossil of Shakira and Jennifer lopez was the start...then to a guy who sings all of his songs about cocaine and getting high, a bunch of wannabe hoodrats who promote violence, drugs, and womanizing... Rihanna who is a puppet and talentless but not relevant to this other than she is a roc nation artist...to Diddys buddy usher and his whole drugs/violence theme...to wannabe bad boy midget Kendrick Lamar... This year to a guy who is openly critical to the audience he is performing to that sings music 80% of the audience won't know the meaning to all to generate revenue in new bases for the league... Yeah, the NFL halftime show is not legitimate and an advertisement for the downfall of the league. Maybe it's just me but I can't get behind some 60 yr old who talks about being a pimp and glamoring violence in la gang life or a cheesy dude who sings 1 song about Drake and pretends he is anything hard or tough. The rap game is full of snitches and protected divas from Eminem to anything in Atlanta. I'd rather not be inundated with hoodrats preach to me about how hard their life is when they make millions I just want to watch football. Yea you realize that Bad Bunny is probably the least "thug rapper" out there, and half that issues described can also be applied to 95% of the musical artists since the 60's, across all genres? Let's book Miss Rachel for the Superbowl. 1 1 1 Quote
boyst Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Yea you realize that Bad Bunny is probably the least "thug rapper" out there, and half that issues described can also be applied to 95% of the musical artists since the 60's, across all genres? Let's book Miss Rachel for the Superbowl. Miss Rachel is not without her flaws either nor controversy. She is finally getting called out for some stupid stuff And yes I know that bad bunny is not as thug or want to be tough guy as the rest of them, and he did a great job in Happy Gilmore too. However he is just a demographic box for the NFL to look to make more money. And yes I realize that as well about the sixties and how music has always been something to start controversy. I still think more could be done to align with the center of the audience. Somewhere between George strait standing there with the guitar playing and Nicki Minaj and her mop and bucket you could find something that fits the middle. Quote
Dan Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, boyst said: The league is doing this to send a shot across the bow of the Lions. Stay in line or we will keep you in line. Every game/every week I lose a tiny little bit of interest in this bull####. I am not exaggerating when I say that if the Bills won the super bowl I would not be as excited as I would of just 5-6 years ago. Not since the Patriots cheating winning streak have I felt more hopeless in honesty and integrity in the league. If the Bills won I would feel a little delegitimized with the poor officiating occuring. The NFL is turning into NASCAR with its fanbase but super awesome we have a naughty rabbit at halftime. I would feel just the opposite. It’s pretty clear that we will have to overcome the league’s favorite teams - Chiefs and Pats - as well as any team we play. The Bills are not getting any breaks from the refs. So I don’t see how them winning is would be delegitimized. And I fail to see how any of this has to do with the halftime show of the Superbowl. 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I support penalizing this. If you hit the ball, great. If you miss, then it’s a possible PF penalty. Just can’t be punching guys wildly. The great players don’t really miss. 2 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: IDK why but it’s always the folks with the homoerotic avatars using gay slurs for some reason… Judging from his reaction to your post, he appears not to be able to take a joke very well. 2 hours ago, Conlan58 said: I mean, do you really want defenders free to punch Josh in the head repeatedly throughout a game when he carries the ball? It says the memo was focused on making sure the players are punching the ball and not the ballcarrier... You are making something out of nothing here. The bye week (especially after a loss) is almost as bad as the period between the last OTA and the beginning of training camp. Some people can keep themselves occupied in healthy pursuits. 1 hour ago, Avisan said: Wait why do people care, at all, about Bad Bunny This is by far the most I have ever seen a Superbowl halftime performer mentioned during the early stages of the regular season and I cannot figure out why literally anybody that isn't already a Bad Bunny fan would care, positively or negatively, months out from the event What am I missing, here Bad Bunny is the latest lightning rod in the culture war that is being waged in this country. Stating only a fact and not editorializing in any way, the controversy surrounding his planned headlining of the Super Bowl halftime show started less than 2 weeks ago when our President said “I’ve never heard of him. I don’t know who he is. I don’t know why they’re doing it. It’s like, crazy, and then they blame it on some promoter that they hired to pick up entertainment. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous.” So that's the answer to your question (bolded)... and I'm pretty sure you know all this. 1 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, boyst said: The league is doing this to send a shot across the bow of the Lions. Stay in line or we will keep you in line. Every game/every week I lose a tiny little bit of interest in this bull####. I am not exaggerating when I say that if the Bills won the super bowl I would not be as excited as I would of just 5-6 years ago. Not since the Patriots cheating winning streak have I felt more hopeless in honesty and integrity in the league. If the Bills won I would feel a little delegitimized with the poor officiating occuring. The NFL is turning into NASCAR with its fanbase but super awesome we have a naughty rabbit at halftime. Why do you think that the league hates the Lions? I mean it's obvious how much they adore the KC Swifties, but the Lions? Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I support penalizing this. If you hit the ball, great. If you miss, then it’s a possible PF penalty. Just can’t be punching guys wildly. The great players don’t really miss. I agree with you. The problem is the same with all rules... the grey area. 1 Quote
BillsPride12 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I support penalizing this. If you hit the ball, great. If you miss, then it’s a possible PF penalty. Just can’t be punching guys wildly. The great players don’t really miss. I'm not a big fan of the ever increasing rule changes every season but I think this would be a fair way to call this. Before I opened this thread I thought it was about the NFL wanting to ban the peanut punch and I was about to be P*SSED. But this is rational 2 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: I agree with you. The problem is the same with all rules... the grey area. agree. I am comfortable though with the refs making a judgment call in this context, especially if the standard is going to be just calling the egregious stuff (like when that colts player repeatedly was just punching Josh in the head). 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Agree. I am comfortable though with the refs making a judgment call in this context, especially if the standard is going to be just calling the egregious stuff (like when that colts player repeatedly was just punching Josh in the head). NFL All-time Leaders in forced fumbles: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/fumbles_forced_career.htm Longtime, close followers of the NFL will already know that the list is dominated by pass rushers... and they'll also know who the first non-pass rusher on the list is. Quote
That's No Moon Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, stuvian said: the punch out is a great football play that the league is apparently out to femininize on its way to turning our sport into lingerie football https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-sent-a-memo-warning-defenders-about-punch-out-plays-using-jack-campbell-as-an-example So....the league clarifying that you can't actually punch people within the framework of the rules is apparently problematic for you? I'm sorry you don't have the vocabulary to express this disappointment differently. 1 Quote
boyst Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Why do you think that the league hates the Lions? I mean it's obvious how much they adore the KC Swifties, but the Lions? My best guess is Detroit is close to University of Ichigan and everyone must realize the obvious hate deserved to that crappy school 1 Quote
transient Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, boyst said: Rocnation and the gimic that is JayZ has a strangle on the NFL with these performances. The NFL doesn't want to appeal to its base. It wants to continuously tap a new market. It has for some time with urban and hip hop. Alienating the middle America base of classic rock, country, and modern rock even (garage, punk, hardcore, alternative). Instead they go with wannabe thugs, polarizing figures, and before that boring safe folks. The issues began with nipplegate when you were probably 10 or less. Justin misogynistic Timberlake and Janet set up a desperate move for attention by stripping her top off on national TV which embarrassed the league. The NFL went safe for a while but in fitting with their wife beating allowance followed: The fossil of Shakira and Jennifer lopez was the start...then to a guy who sings all of his songs about cocaine and getting high, a bunch of wannabe hoodrats who promote violence, drugs, and womanizing... Rihanna who is a puppet and talentless but not relevant to this other than she is a roc nation artist...to Diddys buddy usher and his whole drugs/violence theme...to wannabe bad boy midget Kendrick Lamar... This year to a guy who is openly critical to the audience he is performing to that sings music 80% of the audience won't know the meaning to all to generate revenue in new bases for the league... Yeah, the NFL halftime show is not legitimate and an advertisement for the downfall of the league. Maybe it's just me but I can't get behind some 60 yr old who talks about being a pimp and glamoring violence in la gang life or a cheesy dude who sings 1 song about Drake and pretends he is anything hard or tough. The rap game is full of snitches and protected divas from Eminem to anything in Atlanta. I'd rather not be inundated with hoodrats preach to me about how hard their life is when they make millions I just want to watch football. 🤔... sooo... maybe skip the halftime show? Regardless of who's performing, you wouldn't be seeing any football during it anyway. 🤷♂️ Quote
The Cincinnati Kid Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Wow. This thread is full of people who “are fun at parties.” 🙄 2 Quote
Dafan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I support penalizing this. If you hit the ball, great. If you miss, then it’s a possible PF penalty. Just can’t be punching guys wildly. The great players don’t really miss. I get the penalty on hitting a guy in the head. But you have a RB coming towards you...you go to punch the ball out and you miss by half an inch and hit the guy in the lower chest area...that should not be a penalty. Head shots aren't legal in almost any circumstance. So I totally agree with that being a penalty. Quote
Brand J Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, Conlan58 said: I mean, do you really want defenders free to punch Josh in the head repeatedly throughout a game when he carries the ball? It says the memo was focused on making sure the players are punching the ball and not the ballcarrier... You are making something out of nothing here. I remember TJ Watt punched Allen on a scramble too and thought at the time there should be a flag for that if he’s not hitting the ball. Quote
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