Some rules that I think are dumb

[jaybills]

1 hour ago, Billl said:

Change PI to match the college rule.  Make it spot of the foul up to a maximum of 15 yards.  

Problem with that is every corner would just grab to not give up a big play. Kind of like fouling in basketball after a player with the ball gets past you. Like that the NBA recognized this years ago and made it two free throws when fouling on a blow-by. 

[Virgil]

38 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Only five yards would make o-lineman more likely to hold to try and get away with it.  Defensive holding at least is an automatic first down.

 

Things I'd do because I hate kicking.

-Bring back 20 yard extra points.

-No more kickoffs.  Opposing team gets ball at 25 yard line.  Teams can still declare for an onsides kick.

-The same ball used in the previous play is what the kicker has to use to attempt a field goal.

 

I honestly like the new kickoff rule.  Injuries are down, there’s some excitement, and over 80% are returned.   I think they got this one right. 

[Albany,n.y.]

5 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

Here are some rules I think are dumb and that should be changed:

 

1. After a missed FG, why is the ball spotted at the point of the kick instead of the previous line of scrimmage?  The team not only misses the FG but also effectively gets penalized 7 yards.  I say change this rule.  The rule is good because it makes the coach have to make a decision whether it's worth the risk of kicking a long FG.

 

2. When a team gets flagged for delay of game, why not give them the option to use a timeout to avoid the 5 yard penalty?  It would make for some interesting coaching decisions. The team has plenty of time to call a timeout BEFORE the play clock reaches zero.  

 

3. In victory formation, the QB should not be charged with a -2 yard rushing attempt.  It should be "team yardage" or something like that. I saw a game the other day where the backup QB was pushing forward to get back to the LOS on each kneel-down, which is just dumb and dangerous, but he apparently didn't want the negative rushing yardage. If a QB is really interested in stats so badly that he's worried about 2 freakin' yards on his resume, maybe he has no business being in there to begin with.  The goal is to win the game, not for a QB to play for rushing stats, especially 2 yards.   

 

There, I said it.  Now back to ragging on Beane and McDermott and Brady. 

 

[SMAKCruiser]

Defensive holding and illegal contact shouldn't be an automatic first down (sorry if someone already mentioned this, I'm too lazy to read every page)

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I honestly like the new kickoff rule.  Injuries are down, there’s some excitement, and over 80% are returned.   I think they got this one right. 

I don't like it because the average field possession was about the 25 before the dynamic kickoff thing was concocted.  Now it's about the 29 both last year and this year.  Combine that with the juiced up field goal balls and you don't need very far just to get into field goal range.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

If a team commits two penalties on the same play, why does one have to be declined? Mark off the yardage for both

 

[Virgil]

39 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I don't like it because the average field possession was about the 25 before the dynamic kickoff thing was concocted.  Now it's about the 29 both last year and this year.  Combine that with the juiced up field goal balls and you don't need very far just to get into field goal range.

And yet we only scored 14 last week 🤬

[Matt_In_NH]

By far the worst rule is the auto flag that pops out whenever the bills get a key stop on third down. 

[PetermansRedemption]

2 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Any movement by the O-Line before the snap should be a false start. No more of this 're-adjusting the back foot' nonsense that isn't even in the rulebook! I'm sick of seeing the OT's move a full second before the snap and it's not a penalty. 

 

Defensive holding and illegal contact should not be an automatic first down. 

 

Illegal formation needs to be more evenly enforced. Call it on Jawaan Taylor every single time he's not lined up properly.

 

 

While we are on this, how about the play where the defender moves a pinky, the offensive lineman lifts up like he was just smacked in the face and starts chopping his feet, and somehow it’s the defenders fault and it’s encroachment. 

[Beach]

spiking the ball to stop the clock seems like the definition of intentional grounding to me

[djp14150]

9 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

Here are some rules I think are dumb and that should be changed:

 

1. After a missed FG, why is the ball spotted at the point of the kick instead of the previous line of scrimmage?  The team not only misses the FG but also effectively gets penalized 7 yards.  I say change this rule.

Why not an mis just be a touchback? 
 

it’s the risk associated to the kick.  Which might deter teams from trying.

 

9 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

 

2. When a team gets flagged for delay of game, why not give them the option to use a timeout to avoid the 5 yard penalty?  It would make for some interesting coaching decisions.

 

need to watch the clock and be click aware.

 

9 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

 

3. In victory formation, the QB should not be charged with a -2 yard rushing attempt.  It should be "team yardage" or something like that. I saw a game the other day where the backup QB was pushing forward to get back to the LOS on each kneel-down, which is just dumb and dangerous, but he apparently didn't want the negative rushing yardage.

 

sure you could exclude it from individual rushing attempts and associated stats, same with spikes to stop the clock.

 

9 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

 

There, I said it.  Now back to ragging on Beane and McDermott and Brady.

 

 

what if you changed values of FZgs based on distance so the ones under 30 are 4 pts, 50+ are only worth 2.

 

why not put lines about 5 yds from the sideline. Players can’t line up outside here, players from field/ sideline must leave/ come in the field. It becomes an illegal substitution penalty.

 

also use these line for KOs where if the ball falls inside this line, and hits in the field again, before going out of bounds then the out of bounds is the ball spot.

[nedboy7]

If I run out of wine the game should be over.  

[Talley56]

10 hours ago, WeckMonster said:

I hate the victory formation even more when the QB back pedals slowly to kill time then kneels of you get close.

 

should be a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty…

Strongly disagree, teams should be allowed to kneel out the clock at the end and if they want to try to wait to go down in order to burn off some more seconds to try to get the game clock under the play clock, that's just good strategy in certain cases.  Not sure I understand why that would be considered unsportsmanlike.

 

 

10 hours ago, WeckMonster said:

same with a QB running to the sideline with intent to go OOB then  turning upfield, or intending to slide then continuing to run

Now this, I wholeheartedly agree with you on.

 

[Dan Darragh]

2 hours ago, djp14150 said:

what if you changed values of FZgs based on distance so the ones under 30 are 4 pts, 50+ are only worth 2.

I've seen this proposed before, sort of like a football version of a 3 point shot.

 

I think it should be the other way around, there should be MORE points for a short FG, to reward you for driving deeper into enemy territory. If you only got 2 points for 50+, for instance, It would put more pressure on the offensive team that is driving for a FG at the end of the game to tie or win, they'd have to get down to the 30 or so to get 3 points.

[Dan Darragh]

6 hours ago, Uncle Stucky said:

I’ve said it for 20 years, offensive hold (LoS) should be a 5 yard penalty. 10 yards is too much. 
 

 

I think it used to be 15 yards so there's been some progress over the decades...

[Dan Darragh]

8 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

ALSO:

4. (I almost forgot about this one) - Incomplete pass or stepping out of bounds stops the clock but the clock restarts when the ball is placed at the line of scrimmage.  Not in the last 4 minutes of the half though.  Games are too long, this is a silly rule.

 

5. Adopt the college overtime rule.

6. A 5 yard penalty and a 15 yard penalty should NOT offset.  Just net the yardage, 15-5=10.

 

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What a great bye week distraction, especially after two horrid losses.

Edited 15 hours ago by Dan Darragh

[BobbyC81]

16 hours ago, Low Positive said:

Yep. Two first downs and the offense is in a good kicker's FG range. Go all the way back to the OLD rules and put touchbacks at the 20. Make teams earn points. Also, opening kick-offs have lost all their ceremonial drama with a bunch of dudes standing still. 

Yeah, at least you can still get that opening kickoff experience with college games.  The crowd noise builds in anticipation.  It’s awesome. 
 

Even before these latest kickoff changes, the crowd noise would build and the ball would be kicked thru the end zone.

[BobbyC81]

11 hours ago, Virgil said:

I honestly like the new kickoff rule.  Injuries are down, there’s some excitement, and over 80% are returned.   I think they got this one right. 

But, the new rules resulted in having to declare that you’re trying an onside kick.   That’s a joke.  A big part of it was the element of surprise.   Remember the Saints/Colts Super Bowl when the Saints converted an onside kick to start the 2nd half?

[BobbyC81]

I don’t even know why they have all these nitpicking rules like:  the receiver has to cover up the offensive tackle, the offensive linemen have to be set for a second and can’t move, only one guy allowed in motion.

 

Watching games of the CFL, Arena League, etc., having offensive players running around prior to the snap is more fun.

 

There was a time when if there were penalties on both teams and one was a 15 yard penalty and the other was 5 yards, they applied the larger one.  Now they cancel them out?   A simple Offside penalty is the same as pass interference?

[Donuts and Doritos]

HOLDING - sometimes they call it sometimes they don't. There's holding on almost every play. F it, just let em hold. May the best holder win. It's like the equivalent of the NBA double dribble.

 

FALSE START - guy on D can come up and do the 3 stooges in the lineman's face, good old "made you blink" moves. But if you blink or laugh it's a penalty. What if you have to scratch your ass? As long as you don't move you're feet, not a crime.

 

ILLEGAL FORMATiON - No one knows what the hell that even means. Have to wait the 5 minutes after the call for the commentators to look it up on Google and then explain what the call was. Get rid of it.

 

PASS INTERFERENCE DEFENSE OR OFFENSE - Football is a physical game. But at the high leverage moment of a catch we're going to get cold feet & become prudes? C'mon let em fight it out MMA style for the ball. 

 

ROUGHING THE PASSER - See all of the above. Physical sport, some of the softest calls, let em play, etc... QBS shouldn't be treated like they're children who need their mommy's protection with their own rules. They're men & football players! Stop emasculating them with this rule. Otherwise just put a jugs machine out there.

 

DITTO ROUGHING THE KICKER

 

FINALLY:

 

UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT & TAUNTING - This ain't the country club, high society, where the decorum of a gentlemen is expected. It's football! Need I remind you, all offensive plays start with the QB touching the centers ass.  Spitting, really spitting is flagged under this? Do you know what's going on at the bottom of those scrums? Unspeakable things. & If you celebrate a TD by pointing at the guy you beat you get flagged? Why bc you hurt the man's feelings? Stop it. If I survive outrunning 300 pound linemen, LBers like Ray Lewis, speedy CBs and Safeties like Ed Reed, you're ***** Right I'm going to spike that football, turn around point at each of them and laugh. Then I'm going to the locker room to change my soiled pants, leaving the stadium & going into witness protection. (Cause I'm pretty sure the players can enforce this ***** themselves)

 

(By the way, speaking of dumb rules,  why is it ass is okay to say on here but ***** gets censored?)

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Donuts and Doritos