Seems like a bit too much panic right now

[Success]

We played our worst game of the season, turned the ball over 3x, and faced some....what shall we call it...."overactive officiating?"

 

One less turnover, or a different ref crew - and it's a good bet we're the last undefeated team in the league.

 

I feel like we need an AR "R-E-L-A-X" or something.  We have some needs for sure, but we also have some guys coming back, and 2 guys coming who haven't even seen the field yet.  I'd agree that the secondary is a concern right NOW, but either Hairston or Strong back will help quite a bit.

 

And I expect a move or 2 by the deadline.  But it's not like we're in a dire situation here.  Remember KC's season last year?  They won something like 11 games by a play or 2.  There was a ton of hand-wringing there, and they still made it to the SB.

 

I still think this is the best team in the AFC, by a somewhat comfortable margin.

 

 

[Low Positive]

This place is always bad after a loss. But this one was especially hard because of who it was to. It also didn't help that Diggs was the one who did the damage. Most of us have been waiting for the Bills to suck again for the past 6 years, and losing to the Patriots with 3 turnovers takes us right back to 2012. Losing to the Pats just feels like a regression to the mean. Those feelings will never go away unless the Bills win a Super Bowl. 

 

For what it's worth, my most depressing theory is that the killer wasn't 13 seconds. It was being unprepared to play in the 2020/2021 AFC Championship game. We were the surprise team of the season and one win from the Super Bowl. Then they came out and looked like they didn't belong. We've been chasing that tail ever sense. 

[BringBackFergy]

[NoSaint]

10 minutes ago, Success said:

We played our worst game of the season, turned the ball over 3x, and faced some....what shall we call it...."overactive officiating?"

 

One less turnover, or a different ref crew - and it's a good bet we're the last undefeated team in the league.

 

I feel like we need an AR "R-E-L-A-X" or something.  We have some needs for sure, but we also have some guys coming back, and 2 guys coming who haven't even seen the field yet.  I'd agree that the secondary is a concern right NOW, but either Hairston or Strong back will help quite a bit.

 

And I expect a move or 2 by the deadline.  But it's not like we're in a dire situation here.  Remember KC's season last year?  They won something like 11 games by a play or 2.  There was a ton of hand-wringing there, and they still made it to the SB.

 

I still think this is the best team in the AFC, by a somewhat comfortable margin.

 

 

I think there’s a, not totally undeserved, feeling that we have a qb that makes us a contender annually but the rest doesn’t always measure up. 
 

while the Trent and fitz teams that started hot were fools gold for wild card contention, this one feels a bit like that for the Super Bowl. 
 

in a league where you pass and stop the passer we are missing a secondary and a pass rush, as well as pass catchers. 
 

I’ll admit I think we overachieved last year a bit and outside of bosa we didn’t add a lot of new to the cupboard. Bosa might really help one of those 3 phases- maybe even 2 by taking stress off the secondary

 

none of that to say we are some 6 win fraud… but that I’m also not buying the if we beat New England we are the last undefeated and those question marks disappear. 

[GoBills808]

Not panic personally 

 

More just justifiable frustration after voicing legitimate concerns, being met w 'fOuR aNd oH', them immediately seeing those concerns manifest in a loss

[Low Positive]

4 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I think there’s a, not totally undeserved, feeling that we have a qb that makes us a contender annually but the rest doesn’t always measure up. 
 

while the Trent and fitz teams that started hot were fools gold for wild card contention, this one feels a bit like that for the Super Bowl. 
 

in a league where you pass and stop the passer we are missing a secondary and a pass rush, as well as pass catchers. 
 

I’ll admit I think we overachieved last year a bit and outside of bosa we didn’t add a lot of new to the cupboard. Bosa might really help one of those 3 phases- maybe even 2 by taking stress off the secondary

 

none of that to say we are some 6 win fraud… but that I’m also not buying the if we beat New England we are the last undefeated and those question marks disappear. 

There is some truth to that, but we all also suffer from BBFS. And part of that is undervaluing our own players and overvaluing other teams players. Take a player like Ed Oliver. If the Bills had never drafted him and he was a Raven, half this board would get a warning from @simon in a non-Bills game thread for asking "why can't the Bills have a player like that?" every time he made a play. But put a Bills helmet on him, and everyone thinks he is average at best. All of those feelings used to be valid because for almost 20 years, this franchise felt like a joke. We hired guys like Buddy Nix, and we go fed "cash to the cap," and had guys retire at halftime. We had a coach quit! Not retire, but outright quit!. That never happens. Guys like Drew Bledsoe, Marshawn Lynch, and Stephon Gilmore couldn't wait to get out of this backwater on the fringes of the league.  Now, this is a well-run NFL franchise that players want to play for. But that perception of ineptness is set in stone for most of us. It's hard to get past. Sorry for all the philosophizing, but I have been thinking about this lately when I realize that my non-Bills fan friends have a much better opinion of Beane and McDermott than I do. 

 

BTW, the Bengals fans I know would trade their all-world WRs for our OL in a second. Sometimes we lose sight of the fact that the team is pretty good in the trenches, and that goes a long way in determining games. 

[gobills404]

I don’t think there’s any concern about whether or not the Bills will be a good team this year. I think most of the concern stems from the fact that we haven’t seen anything yet to make us think that this team will be any better than the ones that have fallen short in previous years. Good news is we can still beat anyone, just need it to happen 3-4 times in a row in the playoffs.

[thenorthremembers]

Not panicked in the least.   Just frustrated because the loss was avoidable.   Very little room for error in the NFL. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

23 minutes ago, Success said:

We played our worst game of the season, turned the ball over 3x, and faced some....what shall we call it...."overactive officiating?"

 

One less turnover, or a different ref crew - and it's a good bet we're the last undefeated team in the league.

 

I feel like we need an AR "R-E-L-A-X" or something.  We have some needs for sure, but we also have some guys coming back, and 2 guys coming who haven't even seen the field yet.  I'd agree that the secondary is a concern right NOW, but either Hairston or Strong back will help quite a bit.

 

And I expect a move or 2 by the deadline.  But it's not like we're in a dire situation here.  Remember KC's season last year?  They won something like 11 games by a play or 2.  There was a ton of hand-wringing there, and they still made it to the SB.

 

I still think this is the best team in the AFC, by a somewhat comfortable margin.

 

 

 

 

I'd say stop using Kansas City as the blueprint... Andy Reid is light years better as an OC/HC than McDermott/Brady combined and Spagnuolo is a better DC than McDermott/Babich combined (not being a tool just stating the facts).

[Psautcsk]

31 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

This place is always bad after a loss. But this one was especially hard because of who it was to. It also didn't help that Diggs was the one who did the damage. Most of us have been waiting for the Bills to suck again for the past 6 years, and losing to the Patriots with 3 turnovers takes us right back to 2012. Losing to the Pats just feels like a regression to the mean. Those feelings will never go away unless the Bills win a Super Bowl. 

 

For what it's worth, my most depressing theory is that the killer wasn't 13 seconds. It was being unprepared to play in the 2020/2021 AFC Championship game. We were the surprise team of the season and one win from the Super Bowl. Then they came out and looked like they didn't belong. We've been chasing that tail ever sense. 

You are spot on. It is tougher losing to the Patriots with the great game Diggs had. The thought of going the rest of the regular season having to think about the Pats catching us is nauseating.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Psautcsk said:

You are spot on. It is tougher losing to the Patriots with the great game Diggs had. The thought of going the rest of the regular season having to think about the Pats catching us is nauseating.

 it's not like we've been cruising to division titles. Remember, just two years ago, the Dolphins led the division for the majority of the season until we beat them in week 18. 

[GASabresIUFan]

The Bills always have a clunker early in the year

 

2025 - L Week 5 to NE 20-23   Final record .............?

2024 - L Week 4 @ Balt 35 10  Final record 13-4 and the East

2023 - L Week 5 Jax (Lon) 20-25 Final record 11-6 and the East

2022 - L Week 3 @ Mia 31-21 (only blemish in a 6-1 start) - Final record 13-3 and the East 

2021 - L Week 6 @ Tenn 34-31 (we beat KC the previous week) Final record 11-6 and again winning the East

2020 - L Week 5 @ Tenn 42- 16 (after a 4-0 start)  Final record 13-3 and winning the East

2019 - L Week 4 to NE 16-10 (after a 3-0 Start)  Final record 10-7 and a first JA playoff appearance

 

The Bills have played well after early losses. In addition to the above examples they also lost game 1 to Pitt in 2021 (won the next 4), the Jets in 2023 (won the next 3)., of the 7 examples above they won the next game in 5 of these 7 Times The exceptions were a second loss to KC in 2020 and a 2nd loss to Hou in 2024.  They followed the 2nd loss to KC with 3 straight wins and the 2nd loss to Hou with 7 straight wins. 

Edited 1 hour ago by GASabresIUFan

[CSBill]

You are obviously new to TBD. Any loss, at any time, is a reason for Panic.

 

There can never be enough panic; that's how we deal with emotions. It helps keep us balanced from when we overreact to victories over the Jets and start talking about Super Bowl parades. 

 

So, burn the place down and start over, until next week. 

[Goin Breakdown]

4 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

 it's not like we've been cruising to division titles. Remember, just two years ago, the Dolphins led the division for the majority of the season until we beat them in week 18. 

Once we beat NE I'll be over this one. Until then It will linger. I hate that team so much and I can't stand Diggs being the one who torched us. Where was that motivation when we played the chiefs?  The dude is a me monster. I really feel like Josh gets rattled by him. 

[Success]

6 minutes ago, Psautcsk said:

You are spot on. It is tougher losing to the Patriots with the great game Diggs had. The thought of going the rest of the regular season having to think about the Pats catching us is nauseating.

 

If the Pats had any kind of tough schedule, I wouldn't worry about that at all.   I mean, our schedule is pretty easy, but theirs is all kinds of soft.

 

I'm curious how the next 3 go for them. Pretty easy on paper - but they did lose to the Raiders & Steelers, and came a couple of inches away from losing to the Phins.  I think Vrabel (and Diggs) pulled out all the stops to get the win the other night, but I still think the Pats are pretty mid.  

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

7 minutes ago, Psautcsk said:

You are spot on. It is tougher losing to the Patriots with the great game Diggs had. The thought of going the rest of the regular season having to think about the Pats catching us is nauseating.

So watching the regular season with the league MVP at QB is nauseating unless there is zero competition from within the AFCE ? If you’re worried about the Patriots in the AFC then this team is really just a marginal WC contender. 

[Low Positive]

Just now, Goin Breakdown said:

Once we beat NE I'll be over this one. Until then It will linger. I hate that team so much and I can't stand Diggs being the one who torched us. Where was that motivation when we played the chiefs?  The dude is a me monster. I really feel like Josh gets rattled by him. 

I agree with all that. No one on here talked about it because we're a bunch of old men, but my son told me that the new "mature" Diggs went live on IG after the game to gloat. Pats coaches stopped him after a few seconds, but he's still the same petty dude. 

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Once we beat NE I'll be over this one. Until then It will linger. I hate that team so much and I can't stand Diggs being the one who torched us. Where was that motivation when we played the chiefs?  The dude is a me monster. I really feel like Josh gets rattled by him. 

They don’t meet again until December. That’s a long time for a 3 point division loss to linger. 

[Kornfed]

Seems as though some fans can be rather twatesque when responding to disappointment. It’s a long season. Please take a few deep breaths and try to recompose. …. You’re welcome 

[JP51]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Not panic personally 

 

More just justifiable frustration after voicing legitimate concerns, being met w 'fOuR aNd oH', them immediately seeing those concerns manifest in a loss

Truth the 20 and 0 crowd now the 19 and 1 crowd doesn't want to hear there are concerns but looking at the afc everyone has concerns