Keon WTF?

[LabattBlue]

The way Coleman is going, he may not see the end of his rookie contract as a Bill…unless McD & BB let pride get in their way.

 

As Bob Barker said about Happy Gilmore…”this guy sucks”.

 

 

[Buffalo Ballin]

He's awful. Slow footed kid. He cannot create separation.

 

Just terrible scouting from Beane and his minions. Bloody terrible.

[PauleeeWalnuts]

This guy is the offensive equivalent as Aaron Maybin 

[CincyBillsFan]

5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Joe Marino on the Bills Squad Show …

 

“Keon is a limited player …he is only going to be able to help you in limited ways ..”

That's damning from Marino.  

[dorquemada]

8 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

This guy is the offensive equivalent as Aaron Maybin 

Maybin would beat him like a redheaded stepchild in a 40 yard dash

[goldenboy81]

And to imagine they really thought neon could be a no 1. What a mess

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

I think he drew a tough corner matchup with AJ Terrell, and with Palmer going out they assigned him to follow coleman.  He was not up to the task.  

 

Falcons off a bye week definitely had a good gameplan for the bills offense, and brady called a poor game.  I think its unfair to single out coleman when allen was under pressure a season high amount, and just generally played really poorly.  

[cgang]

6 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

I think he drew a tough corner matchup with AJ Terrell, and with Palmer going out they assigned him to follow coleman.  He was not up to the task.  

 

Falcons off a bye week definitely had a good gameplan for the bills offense, and brady called a poor game.  I think its unfair to single out coleman when allen was under pressure a season high amount, and just generally played really poorly.  

But his body of work this season so far sucks.  Aside from the Baltimore game (112 yards from 8 receptions) and an ok showing of 45 yards from 3 receptions against the saints, he is middling with reception yardage as high as 26 and as low as last night- 11- with a costly fumble last weekend and talks of inconsistent prep/discipline too.  This was supposed to be his break out year and, so far, he isn’t doing enough.  At all.  The whole team has a lot of work to do to clean things up- Josh included- but Keon is way below par.  

[WNYFAN1]

33 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

This guy is the offensive equivalent as Aaron Maybin 

YIKES!

[Murdox]

He just simply doesn't get separation consistently at all.  On many of the plays against the Falcons I saw our receivers just blanketed by the Falcons defense.  Josh missed a few passes under pressure and didn't have a good game, but our depth at receiver isn't good.

[CookieG]

10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They managed to bungle the most important draft since Josh. It was, arguably, the greatest WR draft in history. You just dealt your number 1 and had a glaring void at the top of the depth chart. You HAD to get it right. You could have went up aggressively for one of the big 3. You could have went up some for BTJ. You could have picked where you did or around where you did and taken: Worthy, Pearsall, Coleman, Legette, Polk, AD Mitchell or McConkey (or even some other guys).

 

No matter what though, you HAD to be right. The Bills traded down TWICE and took Keon. They clearly weren’t convicted on any of the guys or they would have pulled the trigger. They took a guy with extreme limitations that would be overcoming math with his separation rates in college. It was a foolish pick even if it worked. The Bills HAD to pick a guy that would be good no matter what (Worthy or McConkey). They might not reach great but the Bills didn’t have the luxury to gamble. They needed a guy to be a contributor immediately. The IDEA of Keon was as flawed as the player. 

Ill probably have that draft choice on my tombstone, or at least have enough people say, "oh shut up about it, already".

 

It was really watching BTJ fall into the 20's.  I thought for sure Beane was going to trade up for him.  He was easily the best WR in the draft after the big 3.  

 

I looked it as he was there for the taking.  He had what they were looking for in Coleman, i.e. the contested catch ability (which Coleman really doesn't have) but, also blows Coleman away in the speed department and the ability to create separation.

 

Apparently Beane did try to trade up, but he said teams wanted his 2nd.  To an extent, I understand that, the D needs players.  

 

So we got Bishop.  Um, wonderful.  In the trade down,  we got Carter, a guy who might not have made the roster even if he was injured. 

 

What Beane didn't mention was whether he offered one of the 2 2nd round picks in 2025 to move up in 2024. 

 

Instead, we didn't and waited til 2025 and then used both of them on Saunders.  Who is now on IR and wasn't showing that much to begin with.  

[PauleeeWalnuts]

32 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

Maybin would beat him like a redheaded stepchild in a 40 yard dash

I meant as far as uselessness 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, CookieG said:

Ill probably have that draft choice on my tombstone, or at least have enough people say, "oh shut up about it, already".

 

It was really watching BTJ fall into the 20's.  I thought for sure Beane was going to trade up for him.  He was easily the best WR in the draft after the big 3.  

 

I looked it as he was there for the taking.  He had what they were looking for in Coleman, i.e. the contested catch ability (which Coleman really doesn't have) but, also blows Coleman away in the speed department and the ability to create separation.

 

Apparently Beane did try to trade up, but he said teams wanted his 2nd.  To an extent, I understand that, the D needs players.  

 

So we got Bishop.  Um, wonderful.  In the trade down,  we got Carter, a guy who might not have made the roster even if he was injured. 

 

What Beane didn't mention was whether he offered one of the 2 2nd round picks in 2025 to move up in 2024. 

 

Instead, we didn't and waited til 2025 and then used both of them on Saunders.  Who is now on IR and wasn't showing that much to begin with.  

They just backed themselves into a corner entering the 2024 draft. That would have been okay if they took McConkey (for example). He was very safe. He may not have become a star but he was going to be 800+ yards and a bunch of targets day 1. He had a skillset and production that was destined to translate. You couldn’t take the risk on Keon because you didn’t have anyone else.

 

Trading up would have been the best answer IMO. I would have tried to get one of the big 3 regardless of the cost. Those guys all had high ceilings and high floors. Generally, I am not a fan of factoring in the floor with your early picks but the Bills had no choice because of their crappy WR room. They just couldn’t afford the downside of Keon (or a bunch of other guys). They had to sacrifice some potential upside for the lack of downside. They didn’t and it, predictably, failed.

 

The Bills lack elite players at the most important positions (non QB). They don’t have an elite pass rusher or an elite WR. You have to draft or trade for those guys in 2025. They no longer hit FA. That’s all the more reason to be aggressive at the deadline. 

[dorquemada]

6 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

I meant as far as uselessness 

 

[Walking Tall]

You mean people aren’t happy with 16 catches for 125 yards in his last 5 games?

 

Those are some stellar stats right there.

[Pete]

24 minutes ago, Walking Tall said:

You mean people aren’t happy with 16 catches for 125 yards in his last 5 games?

 

Those are some stellar stats right there.

 

[Saint Doug]

The problem I think Beane has with drafting is that they think too much and end up getting too cute during rounds 1-3. They probably breakdown every down played by a guy and wonder if they could’ve coached him differently to get more production and if factors XYZ would allow this. Sure, this is “next level” thinking, but sometimes you just need to go with the obvious guy who is already producing. I think this is what happens in the later rounds. 

[Brand J]

Well, it’s certainly easy to understand how and why he was a training camp star. Between the DBs/LBs poor understanding of zone coverage, a guy like Keon can shine. He had the space. Put someone on him and it’s a struggle. 

[NoSaint]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They just backed themselves into a corner entering the 2024 draft. That would have been okay if they took McConkey (for example). He was very safe. He may not have become a star but he was going to be 800+ yards and a bunch of targets day 1. He had a skillset and production that was destined to translate. You couldn’t take the risk on Keon because you didn’t have anyone else.

 

Trading up would have been the best answer IMO. I would have tried to get one of the big 3 regardless of the cost. Those guys all had high ceilings and high floors. Generally, I am not a fan of factoring in the floor with your early picks but the Bills had no choice because of their crappy WR room. They just couldn’t afford the downside of Keon (or a bunch of other guys). They had to sacrifice some potential upside for the lack of downside. They didn’t and it, predictably, failed.

 

The Bills lack elite players at the most important positions (non QB). They don’t have an elite pass rusher or an elite WR. You have to draft or trade for those guys in 2025. They no longer hit FA. That’s all the more reason to be aggressive at the deadline. 

yea but…. Did you see his sweet gear coming to the game?

 

His folksy attitude on stage is endearing but now publicly disciplined twice, not playing well and being flashy has to be irking people in the building 
 

 

[Sargent Hulka]

4 hours ago, JP51 said:

Keon is a bust and another massive Beane draft failure 

Keon, Kair Elam, Basham, Cody Ford, Tremaine Edmunds,...Bean's blown a lot of first and second round picks. Josh Allen giives him plenty of cover.