Keon WTF?

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

I’m old enough to remember a big Keon fumble inside the Miami 10 yard line last season and then again Sunday night.  A lot of us in real time preferred Worthy or McConkey that night. 

I honesty don’t feel this organization values speed at wr anymore.  And if true, that's tragic. 

[JerseyBills]

Worse part to me is that he got benched on the first drive for disciplary reasons,  hopefully he learns a lesson,  McD says he needs more consistency in how he attacks the week 

[zow2]

4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I honesty don’t feel this organization values speed at wr anymore.  And if true, that's tragic. 

 

For a couple years there, the organization was getting criticized for not have any big bodies for Josh to throw to....but then speed became the flavor of the month.  So now we have a bigger body who can't separate. 

[Figster]

On 10/6/2025 at 6:55 AM, Sweats said:

I'd say, it was a bad game by everyone all around.......blaming one player when the whole team **** the bed is not the correct answer here.

The way it's looking, Keon for 1 WR is not the correct answer.

 

Compare Keons play to Diggs play and then tell me why Buffalo lost and the Patriots won the game.

 

 Continues to get disciplined, is this the kind of message we need our top draft choice sending?

 

Keon WTF? 

Edited 5 hours ago by Figster

[nedboy7]

The Bills went against one of the best CB tandems in the league. They could have passed to the middle all day against their base defense.  But they decided to play dumb ball. Ain’t the WR fault even though they are average. This was on the players and OC. 

6 minutes ago, Figster said:

The way it's looking, Keon for 1 WR is not the correct answer.

 

Compare Keons play to Diggs play and then tell me why Buffalo lost and the Patriots won the game.

 

So yes, continues to get disciplined, is this the kind of message we need our top draft choice sending? WTF? 

Listen to Joe Marion’s podcast today. You’ll get some insight as to why we lost. 

Edited 5 hours ago by nedboy7

[Figster]

2 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

The Bills went against one of the best CB tandems in the league. They could have passed to the middle all day against their base defense.  But they decided to play dumb ball. Ain’t the WR fault even though they are average. This was on the players and OC. 

Listen to Joe Marion’s podcast today. You’ll get some insight as to why we lost. 

I'm not trying to place all the blame on Coleman, but when the team itself is sloppy the example Coleman is giving contributes in the wrong way IMO.

[Allen2Moulds]

His scouting report stated that he struggles to get separation. Outside of catching the ball, this by far is the most important attribute. Beane said....sign me up. 

His day one misses were painfully evident on Monday night. Inadequate replacements at Safety. Still a huge hole at CB, below average WRs who struggle against man coverage.

Before anyone tells me he's a top 5 GM, the goal isn't to come in 5th place, so let's be clear on that. 

 

[GoBills808]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Worse part to me is that he got benched on the first drive for disciplary reasons,  hopefully he learns a lesson,  McD says he needs more consistency in how he attacks the week 

Worst part for me was that it apparently wasn't the first time

[HappyDays]

4 hours ago, zow2 said:

I’m old enough to remember a big Keon fumble inside the Miami 10 yard line last season and then again Sunday night.  A lot of us in real time preferred Worthy or McConkey that night. 

 

This season McConkey has less yards, less TDs, a lower catch %, and a substantially lower receiving success rate than Coleman. While playing from an easier position on the field.

 

Worthy has been banged up all year and his role has been easily supplanted by Tyquan Thornton who KC picked up off the scrap heap.

 

Coleman has frustrated me this year but I'm willing to give him until his 3rd season to develop. The flashes are there but he needs to be a lot more consistent, otherwise he'll never be more than a jump ball role player.

 

I still think the biggest mistake wasn't necessarily taking Coleman, it's that they only took Coleman. They either needed to double dip at WR in that draft to maximize the probability of success, or they needed to bring in a legit outside WR so Coleman wasn't forced into a high volume role too early.

 

If Coleman never ends up developing into a legit top 2 WR I can forgive them for that, but I can't forgive them for leaving themselves such a low margin for error at the position by investing so little into it.

[Tulsabillsfanz]

A part of the frustration with Coleman is where he was drafted. He was the 33rd player taken, basically our first round pick in a great receiver draft.  If Coleman was a 3rd, or 4th round pick, he wouldn’t be scrutinized as he is.   That’s another “not his fault “ observation, but that’s where it currently appears he should’ve been drafted. 
 

We still need a WR1, specifically a WR1 who can stretch the field. 

[JerseyBills]

2 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

Worst part for me was that it apparently wasn't the first time

Philly 

[GoBills808]

Just now, JerseyBills said:

Philly 

👍Didn't remember that

[VW82]

People need to remember Keon is Josh tax. This was his pick, or at least someone he campaigned for (before signing his second extension). Telling Josh No in that spot is easier said than done. 
 

Edit: it’s a little like when LeBron had “war room” meetings with potential Lakers FA summer of 2021 and picked Westbrook, and then LeBron fans all blamed Pelinka when it didn’t work out. No. 
 

With Kincaid having so much success this year as a big slot, it’s tough to see Keon’s short-term impact dramatically improving. We can still hold out hope he matures and slowly learns his position before his rookie contract expires. 

Edited 1 hour ago by VW82

[3rdand12]

6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I honesty don’t feel this organization values speed at wr anymore.  And if true, that's tragic. 

 Surely i should be corrected here.

But a good few posts mentioned some NFL speed or lack of on Bills. made me think , weren't Palmer and Moore supposed to bolster that front ?

We all knew Josh needed a deep threat. Whether over the top or turn the corner and go balls out to beat the pursuit. expected Beane to draft one or two. and one early

Are these not those guys till fill that void ? Theoretically speaking. 

4 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

The Bills went against one of the best CB tandems in the league. They could have passed to the middle all day against their base defense.  But they decided to play dumb ball. Ain’t the WR fault even though they are average. This was on the players and OC. 

Listen to Joe Marion’s podcast today. You’ll get some insight as to why we lost. 

Condensed version please

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

A part of the frustration with Coleman is where he was drafted. He was the 33rd player taken, basically our first round pick in a great receiver draft.  If Coleman was a 3rd, or 4th round pick, he wouldn’t be scrutinized as he is.   That’s another “not his fault “ observation, but that’s where it currently appears he should’ve been drafted. 
 

We still need a WR1, specifically a WR1 who can stretch the field. 

we need a WR receiver who has Allen and Brady's confidence. I don't care where you draft him.

[VW82]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

If Coleman never ends up developing into a legit top 2 WR I can forgive them for that, but I can't forgive them for leaving themselves such a low margin for error at the position by investing so little into it.

I still don’t get this critique. We just extended Shakir 4/60M. We followed up Samuel 3/24M with Palmer 3/29M. And we drafted Keon. 
 

Bills heavy investment has been in their QB, Oline, RB, and TEs. We’ve built the offense around these positions, and despite that they’ve still invested in WR. You can’t invest in everything. 
 

You appear to be taking issue with their fundamental philosophy of how to build a successful offense in 2025, rather than specifically underinvestment at WR which they’ve clearly invested in. I don’t think your argument even makes sense tbh unless looked at from the context that they’ve screwed up philosophically to the point that they don’t even understand the core competencies of their best players (i.e. Daboll>Brady).

Edited 21 minutes ago by VW82

[goldenboy81]

Go Deep 

[GoBills808]

51 minutes ago, VW82 said:

People need to remember Keon is Josh tax. This was his pick, or at least someone he campaigned for (before signing his second extension). Telling Josh No in that spot is easier said than done. 
 

Edit: it’s a little like when LeBron had “war room” meetings with potential Lakers FA summer of 2021 and picked Westbrook, and then LeBron fans all blamed Pelinka when it didn’t work out. No. 
 

With Kincaid having so much success this year as a big slot, it’s tough to see Keon’s short-term impact dramatically improving. We can still hold out hope he matures and slowly learns his position before his rookie contract expires. 

What it actually means is you fell for the Bills marketing lol

 

Nobody really believes they traded out of him twice...if he's your guy you just take him

[nedboy7]

31 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

 Surely i should be corrected here.

But a good few posts mentioned some NFL speed or lack of on Bills. made me think , weren't Palmer and Moore supposed to bolster that front ?

We all knew Josh needed a deep threat. Whether over the top or turn the corner and go balls out to beat the pursuit. expected Beane to draft one or two. and one early

Are these not those guys till fill that void ? Theoretically speaking. 

Condensed version please

basically the paragraph above.  We did not properly attack the patriots defense or dictate personnel.  Then he talked about how washed up Trey is and how terrible out safeties are.  Made me think we ain’t doing much this season in the playoffs.  

[VW82]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

What it actually means is you fell for the Bills marketing lol

 

Nobody really believes they traded out of him twice...if he's your guy you just take him

Not if you have intel that he’s not going to be taken, meanwhile you have him rated best / best for what you’re looking for.