For all you McDermott haters, who would you want?

[Gugny]

Beane has been a bigger problem than McDermott. 
 

And Brady has, overall, been pure ass this season. 
 

I don’t think McDermott is elite by any means and I’ve been critical of a lot of his decision making throughout his tenure. 
 

But take a look at this defensive backfield. 
 

When you’re forced to put Tredavious White on the field … AS YOUR BEST OPTION … 

 

Your GM has failed miserably.  
 

This list of that caliber players is far too long for this to be a Super Bowl contending team. 
 

That’s not McDermott’s fault. 

[thenorthremembers]

6 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

That's an end of season question right?  I'd have preferred Belichik or Vrabel over the clapping shiitthead.   Need to see whose available end of season.  

Bill Belichick the guy who has never won anything without Tom Brady.  The guy who is getting his lunch stolen in college.  Great idea.

[BananaB]

McD gotta swallow his pride and give up on his own D. It’s been the root of the problem for a few years. 

[Sweats]

I heard this thing this morning and almost spit my coffee out........."McD is the NFL's James Franklin".

 

And now i can't un-hear it.

[FireChans]

6 hours ago, The Wiz said:

Vrabel is literally McD but punts on 4th and 1 instead of going for it.

Vrabel is McD except Vrabel gets to the AFCCG with Ryan Tannehill and McD gets there with Josh.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

As perhaps the founding member of the anti-McDermott crowd, even I'm going to say this was more on the players. 

Pretty sure Palmer has been coached to line up correctly.  He just didnt do it. Josh threw into double coverage not McDermott.  And who else is he going to play at CB#2. I was laughed at when Douglas was still available and I suggested bringing him back. He was never as bad last year as White is now. Same for Cooper. He made more plays in limited action last year than Shavers will his entire career. 

And for the it will be better when Hairston comes back crowd, please remember he wasn't beating out White in OTAs or training camp. 

 

Ok last points. Beane's extensions are really mixed right now. Shakir is not getting enough targets. Rousseau has been terrible. Benford hasn't made a play all year. Bernard has been up and down. Only Cook and Brown have played well with the new contracts. Palmer has been gross too as a free agent signing. 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

As perhaps the founding member of the anti-McDermott crowd, even I'm going to say this was more on the players. 

Pretty sure Palmer has been coached to line up correctly.  He just didnt do it. Josh threw into double coverage not McDermott.  And who else is he going to play at CB#2. I was laughed at when Douglas was still available and I suggested bringing him back. He was never as bad last year as White is now. Same for Cooper. He made more plays in limited action last year than Shavers will his entire career. 

And for the it will be better when Hairston comes back crowd, please remember he wasn't beating out White in OTAs or training camp. 

 

Ok last points. Beane's extensions are really mixed right now. Shakir is not getting enough targets. Rousseau has been terrible. Benford hasn't made a play all year. Bernard has been up and down. Only Cook and Brown have played well with the new contracts. Palmer has been gross too as a free agent signing. 

You act like McD wasn’t in love with the feel good story of bringing Tre White home. 
 

There’s no chance he wasn’t 100% on board with that decision. 

32 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Bill Belichick the guy who has never won anything without Tom Brady.  The guy who is getting his lunch stolen in college.  Great idea.

McDermott has never won anything WITH Josh Allen.

 

We don’t need a coach who can win without Josh. We have Josh.

 

We do need a coach who can win with a great QB. We don’t have that.

[McBean]

7 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Rams will never do it. 

 

7 hours ago, Lionel Hutz said:

Belichick would have been great hire a couple years ago but he’s damaged goods now. 

 

Jim Harbaugh would have been a great hire after he left Michigan. 
 

At this point I’d take anyone just because the team isn’t going anywhere with McD in charge. 

Sean Peyton would’ve been the hire 

[Billsfanatic8989]

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

Bill Belichick the guy who has never won anything without Tom Brady.  The guy who is getting his lunch stolen in college.  Great idea.

He has never won without an elite QB. No. But the Bills have one so that wouldn't be an issue here. 

 

The issues are:

 

He would be 74

He seems distracted with a gf 50 years younger

Does he want to return to the NFL?

 

[Billsfanatic8989]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

Beane has been a bigger problem than McDermott. 
 

And Brady has, overall, been pure ass this season. 
 

I don’t think McDermott is elite by any means and I’ve been critical of a lot of his decision making throughout his tenure. 
 

But take a look at this defensive backfield. 
 

When you’re forced to put Tredavious White on the field … AS YOUR BEST OPTION … 

 

Your GM has failed miserably.  
 

This list of that caliber players is far too long for this to be a Super Bowl contending team. 
 

That’s not McDermott’s fault. 

I am starting to feel this way too. White being back there is inexcusable. As is the continued reliance on other old and injury prone players. A HC can only do so much with what he has.

 

They were able to get turnovers off QB's who are absolute garbage. So they aren't historically bad. But last night when we needed them most, they got shredded in the 4th quarter by a QB who is actually good. 

 

Just imagine what teams like KC, Philadelphia, Bucs, and possibly Texans will do.

[Gregg]

8 hours ago, Draconator said:

This is an honest question. If the Bills fire McDermott? Who would you hire to get the Bills over the hump and into the Superbowl? Not any coach currently coaching another team college or pro. Those coaches who are unemployed, who would you hire?

 

Bill. He has an opt out in his contract at UNC if he wants to get back into the NFL. Bill with Josh = Super Bowl championship. Just don't let him pick the players. He sucks as a GM, but he can coach, and he would build a stronger defense than McDermott has.

 

Bill with an elite level QB = 9 Super Bowl appearances with 6 Championships. 

Sean with an elite level QB = Zero, zip, nada, in his 9th season. 

[DrDawkinstein]

I was banging the table for Vrabel back when he was available.

 

Jim Harbaugh should have been considered.

 

Plenty of folks here were talking about Sean Payton when he was available.

 

I'm not as big on the Belichick idea but any change is better than running into the same damn wall of being flat and unprepared for big games.

 

People can try to blame individual players for all the mistakes, and some of it is on them, but there is a big issue with "fundamentals" that is plaguing this team.

 

The fundamentals of basic open field tackling.

The fundamentals of lining up correctly (across multiple phases. we got one on Special Teams right after we got on on Offense)

The fundamentals of coverage and turning around for the ball because you are going to get flagged every time with your back to the ball.

 

The Pats have a Championship caliber coach who coached up his Wild Card talent team

The Bills have a Wild Card caliber coach whose Championship caliber team played down to their opponent.

 

I'm done excusing it.

 

Sure, we're still 4-1. Still lead the division. Will still likely win the division. Yay. Cant wait to be bitterly disappointed in the playoffs as I watch this jabroni clap his way through wasting Josh's career.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

As perhaps the founding member of the anti-McDermott crowd, even I'm going to say this was more on the players. 

Pretty sure Palmer has been coached to line up correctly.  He just didnt do it. Josh threw into double coverage not McDermott.  And who else is he going to play at CB#2. I was laughed at when Douglas was still available and I suggested bringing him back. He was never as bad last year as White is now. Same for Cooper. He made more plays in limited action last year than Shavers will his entire career. 

And for the it will be better when Hairston comes back crowd, please remember he wasn't beating out White in OTAs or training camp. 

 

Ok last points. Beane's extensions are really mixed right now. Shakir is not getting enough targets. Rousseau has been terrible. Benford hasn't made a play all year. Bernard has been up and down. Only Cook and Brown have played well with the new contracts. Palmer has been gross too as a free agent signing. 

 

I agree with all this although if you watched the Dolphins game yesterday Douglas is just as washed as Tre.

[Billsfanatic8989]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

 

Bill. He has an opt out in his contract at UNC if he wants to get back into the NFL. Bill with Josh = Super Bowl championship. Just don't let him pick the players. He sucks as a GM, but he can coach, and he would build a stronger defense than McDermott has.

 

Bill with an elite level QB = 9 Super Bowl appearances with 6 Championships. 

Sean with an elite level QB = Zero, zip, nada, in his 9th season. 

He would be 74 and by far the oldest HC in NFL history. He also seems distracted with his GF. Those are my main two concerns. 

 

But....he is also a HC who has outcoached Reid several times. Including the postseason. And he has the championship experience. He did suck without a generational type QB. But that won't be an issue here.

 

So after typing all of that, I'm in favor!!!

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

He would be 74 and by far the oldest HC in NFL history. He also seems distracted with his GF. Those are my main two concerns. 

 

But....he is also a HC who has outcoached Reid several times. Including the postseason. And he has the championship experience. He did suck without a generational type QB. But that won't be an issue here.

 

So after typing all of that, I'm in favor!!!

 

I think the only reason he couldn't get another HC job in the NFL was he wanted control of the whole thing being a GM/HC type. Picking the players was his downfall with NE but the man can coach. 

[DrDawkinstein]

To answer @Draconator's question, tough to tell right now without knowing who all is available, but if pressed for a name today I'd say Joe Brady. Just promote him to keep him and the Offense consistent, and have him hire an experienced former-HC Defensive Coordinator.

[Billever76]

8 hours ago, FireChans said:

You don’t need to hire an unemployed coach.

 

There’s lots of promising OC’s or DC’s that would jump at a chance to be the Bills HC.

 

Honestly, I’d probably promote Brady, and try to hire the hottest DC in the league. Maybe Brian Flores would be interested. 
 

I’d be willing to take Bill Belichick and roll the dice he can make this defense special for a year or two.

 

Or I’d hire the next Shanny Disciple and give Josh a consistent offensive system for the next 5-6 years.

 

So many good options outside of letting McD and Beane try to turn Josh into Cam 2.0 and waste his prime.

Brady!? Lmao dude is as Mid as McDermott 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Billever76 said:

Brady!? Lmao dude is as Mid as McDermott 

 

The offense is (usually) humming and just fine. It's the defense that needs the change and that aint happening while McD is here.

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I was banging the table for Vrabel back when he was available.

 

Jim Harbaugh should have been considered.

 

Plenty of folks here were talking about Sean Payton when he was available.

 

I'm not as big on the Belichick idea but any change is better than running into the same damn wall of being flat and unprepared for big games.

 

People can try to blame individual players for all the mistakes, and some of it is on them, but there is a big issue with "fundamentals" that is plaguing this team.

 

The fundamentals of basic open field tackling.

The fundamentals of lining up correctly (across multiple phases. we got one on Special Teams right after we got on on Offense)

The fundamentals of coverage and turning around for the ball because you are going to get flagged every time with your back to the ball.

 

The Pats have a Championship caliber coach who coached up his Wild Card talent team

The Bills have a Wild Card caliber coach whose Championship caliber team played down to their opponent.

 

I'm done excusing it.

 

Sure, we're still 4-1. Still lead the division. Will still likely win the division. Yay. Cant wait to be bitterly disappointed in the playoffs as I watch this jabroni clap his way through wasting Josh's career.

We are executing McBeane’s ultimate vision, castrate our offense and make Josh Allen diminish himself to prop up a defense determined to make other QBs look like Josh Allen.

 

Who has faith this team can win a shoot out vs KC in the playoffs? Who has faith this team can win a defensive battle vs KC in the playoffs?

 

McD can lose to a superior coach when he has a MASSIVE QB advantage. How is he gonna fare against Mahomes?

 

I am despondent. The worst realities have been realized. Fire McBeane into the sun. 

[Billever76]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

The offense is (usually) humming and just fine. It's the defense that needs the change and that aint happening while McD is here.

The offense is humming bc of the best qb in football…Brady telegraphs run and pass plays horribly,his play calls lack a vertical and deep middle game….nah Brady is what McDermott is…a product of Josh Allen…if it wasn’t for having a generational talent at QB none of this coaching staff would be known anywhere