For all you McDermott haters, who would you want?

[Don Otreply]

18 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

It’s never there because this defense was figured out in 2018 and just been completely useless since. We had 2 generation erasers at safety for a bit that covered a lot of warts. This guys scheme is a disgrace 

Gunner always defends Frazier/McDermotts scheme, even though it has been figured out for years now, Gunner is a thoughtful poster here and I respect his presence on the forum, but it is my considered opinion that he is mistaken in his thoughts on our defensive scheme and how personnel are used within it, 😁👍

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

At the end of the day how many chances are we going to give this guy FFS? Allen’s entire career? That’s insanity. You have had so many chances, so many runs. So many guys have come and gone. It’s not all these players. It’s the guy that hasn’t changed. He’s the problem. What are we going to give the guy 17 tries here? Like cmon. You already had enough shots. Win the Super Bowl this year or let’s see what another guy has.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Nothing. I have no issue with Beane. I think the players on defense are fine. I genuinely think it’s the scheme.

disagree. Our defense is mid to bad, with maybe two to three players who'd start on other teams.

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:

Gunner always defends Frazier/McDermotts scheme, even though it has been figured out for years now, Gunner is a thoughtful poster here and I respect his presence on the forum, but it is my considered opinion that he is mistaken in his thoughts on our defensive scheme and how personnel are used within it, 😁👍

It’s pathetic. I don’t know how a Bills fan can still think that. The defense is a joke. The simplest way I can put it is this 

 

and I say it all the time

 

”if we aren’t turning people over, we aren’t stopping them”

 

Thats NOT sustainable. Get STOPS. Other teams do it all the time 

[BananaB]

26 minutes ago, noacls17 said:

No, but I also think some of the blame falls on Beane. You have 3 players in White, Milano, and Rapp who do not belong on the field. Who is more to blame for that?

 

 

Worst part is McD plays them because they are his trusted vets. Rather see a rookie get beat all over the field than Tre ffs. 

26 minutes ago, noacls17 said:

 

Edited 1 hour ago by BananaB

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

disagree. Our defense is mid to bad, with maybe two to three players who'd start on other teams.

 

Our defense is actually horrendous. And it’s because the guy coaching it is running an incredibly predictable outdated scheme 

[HomeTeam]

I've always been a fan of John Harbaugh if he becomes available. Just throwing a name out there. 

 

I actually don't think the bills will or should part ways with McDermott. I'm going to let this season play out before I jump to any conclusions. 

 

I think this team can put it together. They came easily go 5-1 entering the bye. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Our defense is actually horrendous. And it’s because the guy coaching it is running an incredibly predictable outdated scheme 

Name one guy, just one, that opposing offenses are FORCED to reckon with on the defense and gameplan for.

 

And fair warning, if you say Ed Oliver, I will laugh audibly

 

[Gregg]

3 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Name one guy, just one, that opposing offenses are FORCED to reckon with on the defense and gameplan for.

 

And fair warning, if you say Ed Oliver, I will laugh audibly

 

 

Nobody. We had that with #78 but that was a long time ago.

[noacls17]

8 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Worst part is McD plays them because they are his trusted vets. Rather see a rookie get beat all over the field than Tre ffs. 

Hancock should be getting time at safety if healthy. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

3 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Name one guy, just one, that opposing offenses are FORCED to reckon with on the defense and gameplan for.

 

And fair warning, if you say Ed Oliver, I will laugh audibly

 

Guys I think are better then they look in scheme that could be part of a really good defense 

 

bosa

greg

ed oliver

milano

bernard 

williams

bendord

bishop

walker

thompson

hopefully Harrison

t Johnson in a drastically reduced role

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

29 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Brady had Moss, Gronk, Edelman, Welker to throw to. Mahomes had Hill early in his career and Kelce to throw to. Who does Allen really have. Even Kelly had Reed and Lofton to throw to. If Allen is expected to produce in the clutch in the 4th quarter especially in playoff games, then Beane needs to get him better WRs. There is nobody on the Bills WR/TE group that keeps opposing HC's and DC's up at night. You know that saying about making chicken salad out of chicken ****. That is what Beane and McDermott are asking Allen to do.

Lol what? The pats infamously did not win the superbowl with Randy moss and won a bunch with pretty mediocre skill position players.  They outdueled that very same stacked chiefs offense you’re talking about with Julian Edelman and Chris hogan in their last Super Bowl run and had to score 37 points to do it 

 

Chiefs won a Super Bowl two years ago where their best wr was juju smith schuster and they had to score 38 to do it.  

 

I’m not saying blame josh instead of the defense which seems to be the way being critical of the late offensive play the last few playoff runs always goes, the defense can absolutely be better.  But the offense has come up short in back to back years too.   
 

it all feels pretty ironic because when we were stacked at wr and couldn’t run the ball as well, a worse chiefs defense talent-wise pushed us around even more typically.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Gregg]

5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Lol what? The pats infamously did not win the superbowl with Randy moss and won a bunch with pretty mediocre skill position players.  They outdueled that very same stacked chiefs offense you’re talking about with Julian Edelman and Chris hogan in their last Super Bowl run and had to score 37 points to do it 

 

Chiefs won a Super Bowl two years ago where their best wr was juju smith schuster and they had to score 38 to do it.  

 

I’m not saying blame josh instead of the defense which seems to be the way being critical of the late offensive play the last few playoff runs always goes, the defense can absolutely be better.  But the offense has come up short in back to back years too.   
 

it all feels pretty ironic because when we were stacked at wr and couldn’t run the ball as well, a worse chiefs defense talent-wise pushed us around even more typically.  

 

In fairness to the offense, they did move the ball down the field against the Chiefs in Buffalo, but Bass missed the FG that would have tied it. Not that it would have mattered as Mahomes would have gotten them into FG range for a GW kick. 

[stlbills13]

Harry Potter

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I see this got merged even though it’s a completely different question 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

How about Mike McCarthy ?

[GunnerBill]

23 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Name one guy, just one, that opposing offenses are FORCED to reckon with on the defense and gameplan for.

 

And fair warning, if you say Ed Oliver, I will laugh audibly

 

 

The only right answer is Ed Oliver. Even though you hate him.

[Boatdrinks]

Now I’ll preface this by saying that I don’t hate McDermott. Who would I want ? Obviously I’d like Andy Reid, as he is McDermott and the Bills greatest roadblock. He’s an elite designer of offense, which the Bills lack imo. Runners up would be McVay, possibly Gruden. A proven SB winner would be best to take a shot at a SB run with. Is this likely to happen ? Unfortunately no. 

[billsbackto81]

39 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

It means; that if everything goes to plan we can win it all, we’re  you per chance born after 1959? 
 

😁👍

Not much after 😋

[Steptide]

I've never been on the fire McDermott train, but if this season ends the way the last 5 or 6 have, then it might get me there. This defense has regressed, and it's obvious. Not adressing wide receiver in free agency, or by the trade deadline is complete ignorance. Yes, I realize we signed free agent wr's, but we are sorely lacking a true number 1. Coleman has not impressed so far. Kinkaid had his frist 100 yard game last night and this is his THIRD season. I don't know about you guys, but that is absolutely ridiculous imo