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I didn’t see a thread posted on the topic. Over the last few years the NFL trade deadline has been active. Contenders have added pieces. This feels like the a good place to throw out ideas for both the Bills and other teams. Obviously there are cap considerations with any move.

 

I had one idea and that was reason enough to start this. Ray Davis to the Cardinals for a 4th or 5th? The Bills recoup the draft pick that they used on Davis. It gives them ammo to deal elsewhere and gives Gore a shot at that spot. The Cardinals are without their first 2 backs. If Davis plays well he can be a part of their backfield rotation moving forward. 

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I like it.  Davis dropped weight and doesn’t look as good this year (admittedly small sample size), plus with how well Cook is playing and how good Gore ran in the preseason I don’t think the Bills lose much while getting that pick back.

 

 

2 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

Knox seems superfluous at this point. Would anyone be interested in Samuel?  Epenesa?  There are potentially pieces that can be moved.

 

Those saying Knox is being supplanted really don’t get it.  At all.  The Bills like all three TEs and use them in different roles.  Knox isn’t going anywhere and is a big part of what they’re doing; he’s playing over 50% of the snaps.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I didn’t see a thread posted on the topic. Over the last few years the NFL trade deadline has been active. Contenders have added pieces. This feels like the a good place to throw out ideas for both the Bills and other teams. Obviously there are cap considerations with any move.

 

I had one idea and that was reason enough to start this. Ray Davis to the Cardinals for a 4th or 5th? The Bills recoup the draft pick that they used on Davis. It gives them ammo to deal elsewhere and gives Gore a shot at that spot. The Cardinals are without their first 2 backs. If Davis plays well he can be a part of their backfield rotation moving forward. 

 

I'd do that YESTERDAY.

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The Bills should be all in this year and willing to spend some draft capital if they want to win the big one. Now is the time! I am OK with mortgaging the future for this season.

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13 minutes ago, eball said:

The Bills like all three TEs and use them in different roles.  Knox isn’t going anywhere

 Sal Capaccio of WGR agrees with you. He said the Coaches really like Knox, amd his leadership.  and said he believes there will be a restructure next year to have him retire a Buffalo Bill. 

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Davis hasn’t looked good, but I don’t like giving away players on a contender. I’d like to see what Gore can do as well, but you’re one injury away from wishing you still had Ray Davis. I trust Davis in crucial moment's, we don’t know what Gore has to offer. Several games into a season with Super Bowl hopes isn’t when I want to find out. 

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19 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Davis hasn’t looked good, but I don’t like giving away players on a contender. I’d like to see what Gore can do as well, but you’re one injury away from wishing you still had Ray Davis. I trust Davis in crucial moment's, we don’t know what Gore has to offer. Several games into a season with Super Bowl hopes isn’t when I want to find out. 

I guess that why I’m good with it. I don’t think Davis is even playable. He looks SO slow getting into the hole. If Cook were to go out they’d give Davis a chance and he’d immediately lose carries to Gore and Johnson IMO. He’s a negative to me at this point. I suspect that he Bills feel the same way based on his usage to this point. He has 11 carries through 4 games. I know that Cook has been lights out but they’ve always rotated. Personally, I’d take a 6th for Davis. 

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1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I guess that why I’m done with it. I don’t think Davis is even playable. He looks SO slow getting into the hole. If Cook were to go out they’d give Davis a chance and he’d immediately lose carries to Gore and Johnson IMO. He’s a negative to me at this point. I suspect that he Bills feel the same way based on his usage to this point. He has 11 carries through 3 games. I know that Cook has been lights out but they’ve always rotated. Personally, I’d take a 6th for Davis. 

I agree with what you're saying. So what makes you think we can get a 4 or 5? Bills would be lucky to get 6/7 pick swap for Davis.

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3 minutes ago, Process said:

I agree with what you're saying. So what makes you think we can get a 4 or 5? Bills would be lucky to get 6/7 pick swap for Davis.

I don’t necessarily think they can get that. There is a chance though I guess with Arizona. If they think they are a playoff team, maybe. They’d have to feel good about Davis too. They can get out from James Conner’s contract after this season and save a bunch. They can move forward with Benson and Davis. I don’t know that they would want to do that but that’s the logic. 

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1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I guess that why I’m good with it. I don’t think Davis is even playable. He looks SO slow getting into the hole. If Cook were to go out they’d give Davis a chance and he’d immediately lose carries to Gore and Johnson IMO. He’s a negative to me at this point. I suspect that he Bills feel the same way based on his usage to this point. He has 11 carries through 4 games. I know that Cook has been lights out but they’ve always rotated. Personally, I’d take a 6th for Davis. 

 

He is also turning 26 within weeks. He'd be 28 at the end of his rookie deal. He is never going to be the #1 here now Cook is signed (nor would I ever have wanted him to be but the idea if Cook was still up in the air long term of at least having someone "in the system" to split time with a rookie replacement you might need to draft next spring is now out the window). I'd rather Davis than paying a vet to be in the rotation but Gore is even cheaper than Davis and so anything you can get back for Davis is gravy. 

 

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'd do that YESTERDAY.

I can’t imagine Ray Davis has any trade value.  His current trajectory has him headed to the PS…

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I didn’t see a thread posted on the topic. Over the last few years the NFL trade deadline has been active. Contenders have added pieces. This feels like the a good place to throw out ideas for both the Bills and other teams. Obviously there are cap considerations with any move.

 

I had one idea and that was reason enough to start this. Ray Davis to the Cardinals for a 4th or 5th? The Bills recoup the draft pick that they used on Davis. It gives them ammo to deal elsewhere and gives Gore a shot at that spot. The Cardinals are without their first 2 backs. If Davis plays well he can be a part of their backfield rotation moving forward. 

No one is giving up anything for Ray Davis, but I do expect the Bills to be active at the trade deadline.  I expect at least one trade for a safety, CB, edge, or maybe even a LB.  They are—or should be—all in.

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2 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Brandon Beane will do what he always does at the trade deadline

Nothing

Beane has traded a 3rd for Cooper and a 3rd for Douglas and Moss and a 5th for Hines over the last 3 seasons?

 

He may be the most active GM at the deadline lol

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Without making a single move the Bills are slated to get two defensive starters at or around the Trade Deadline (maybe three if you count Mad Max). So we need to trade a running back for a late round pick? 

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Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Without making a single move the Bills are slated to get two defensive starters at or around the Trade Deadline (maybe three if you count Mad Max). So we need to trade a running back for a late round pick? 

Unless we are running 6 DL packages, we aren't getting two defensive starters around the deadline. Larry O and Hoecht aren't starting over the other guys, they will be rotational pieces.

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1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Unless we are running 6 DL packages, we aren't getting two defensive starters around the deadline. Larry O and Hoecht aren't starting over the other guys, they will be rotational pieces.

Whether they’re starters or rotational pieces, the League isn’t going to allow us to expand our roster up to 56. 

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Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Whether they’re starters or rotational pieces, the League isn’t going to allow us to expand our roster up to 56. 

Which means we may need to open a roster spot by trading a running back for a late round pick?

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