Game Week thread - Bills at Jets

[abc]

23 minutes ago, finn said:

McBeane built this team to beat KC, which it can't do, at the expense of being tissue paper against power teams like Baltimore. A lose-lose proposition, at least so far. The only redeeming quality I can see is that they play with heart and get turnovers, as in the Ravens game. Otherwise, the best they can do is serve as a speed bump so Allen has at least a fighting chance of scoring more points than they give up, again as in the Ravens game. 

 

If I'm the Jets, I play classic ball control. Short throws, 3.5 yards per carry, milk the clock, 43-minute TOP. Keep Allen on the bench and exhaust the small, overmatched defense. If you're facing arguably the worst defense and best offense in the league, which do you keep on the field and which do you keep on the sidelines? 

A lose-lose proposition….except they keep beating Baltimore. 

[RiotAct]

13 minutes ago, abc said:

A lose-lose proposition….except they keep beating Baltimore. 

lol… imagine that, huh

[Goin Breakdown]

My thought are this

The jets have been liking the smell of their own crap this week. Yes they lost but they played good and the media is talking them up. 
The Bills on the other hand Won, but looked pretty bad on the defensive side of the ball. They want to prove they are not what they looked like.
missing Oliver hurts. Johnson may be out but is listed questionable. Typically that means he's playing. 
I think Bills win pretty big in this one even though Bills jets games tend to be close.  

[Rockinon]

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-injuries/115714/buffalo-bills-list-5-players-with-week-2-injury-designations

 

Pretty good summary on the injury front. If we can get a couple of these guys back, losing Ed won't be so bad. The defense doesn't really need his game wrecker abilities. Just a better showing when it comes to gap integrity and stopping the run. The team practiced in pads on Wednesday to fix these issues and that's a team effort. The defense's issues against the Ravens had a lot to do with team concepts like maintaining gap integrity. Henry was only partly successful because of his ability. The other side of that coin was the poor job the Dline did at meeting him at the point of attack. He was running through huge holes all game long until the 4th qtr. Although losing Ed in this one hurts, it's not the end of the world. Every member of this defense shared in last weeks performance. Now they just have to put it together for the next game up.

 

I believe we actually see an improved performance by the defense as a whole, even without Ed. 

[Thrivefourfive]

11 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Right now it's a one game at a time mentality for the Bills. Talk about one seed and Super Bowl thoughts are months away. 

 

We fans are just talkin’ here. I didn’t say nothin’

 

11 hours ago, Shortchaz said:

Don’t worry, we always kill ourselves not doing it 👍

Literally

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

1 hour ago, finn said:

 If I'm the Jets, I play classic ball control. Short throws, 3.5 yards per carry, milk the clock, 43-minute TOP. Keep Allen on the bench and exhaust the small, overmatched defense. If you're facing arguably the worst defense and best offense in the league, which do you keep on the field and which do you keep on the sidelines? 

In fantasy Justin Fields is projected to have a big game going against an absolutely putrid Bills defense that gave up 432 yards last week.

 

Bills pull this one out but it will be a little too close for comfort for many Bills fans. Josh will have to pull a rabbit out of his hat again for this game.

 

But if you want to make some money in fantasy, start Fields

[Utah John]

With the defense shredded by injuries and by big strong opponents, I am not confident at all about the next couple of games.  The Jets offense looked really good against Pittsburgh, and their defense always seems to make Josh struggle.  The Dolphins are a shell of what they've been so are an easy to overlook opponent with a lot of frustration against the Bills to motivate them.  

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 hour ago, finn said:

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If I'm the Jets, I play classic ball control. Short throws, 3.5 yards per carry, milk the clock, 43-minute TOP. Keep Allen on the bench and exhaust the small, overmatched defense. If you're facing arguably the worst defense and best offense in the league, which do you keep on the field and which do you keep on the sidelines? 

It is wayyyy too early to say that. We need a bigger sample size. Remember blowing out New England 31-0 in the opener ? We had the best offense AND defense going into week 2. How did that turn out ?

[JGMcD2]

39 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-injuries/115714/buffalo-bills-list-5-players-with-week-2-injury-designations

 

Pretty good summary on the injury front. If we can get a couple of these guys back, losing Ed won't be so bad. The defense doesn't really need his game wrecker abilities. Just a better showing when it comes to gap integrity and stopping the run. The team practiced in pads on Wednesday to fix these issues and that's a team effort. The defense's issues against the Ravens had a lot to do with team concepts like maintaining gap integrity. Henry was only partly successful because of his ability. The other side of that coin was the poor job the Dline did at meeting him at the point of attack. He was running through huge holes all game long until the 4th qtr. Although losing Ed in this one hurts, it's not the end of the world. Every member of this defense shared in last weeks performance. Now they just have to put it together for the next game up.

 

I believe we actually see an improved performance by the defense as a whole, even without Ed. 

We see this every year. The Bills defense has a rough game, the message board blows up, then they practice all week and come out playing better, more fundamental football.

 

Wasn’t it just last season that we gave up 28 points to a pretty average Cardinals offense? Everyone panicked because we had to go on the road against Miami in Week 2—on short rest—without Duwane Smoot, Javon Solomon, and Taron Johnson. To make matters worse, Terrel Bernard went down after just a series or two, which meant we had to lean on Austin Johnson, Cam Lewis, Baylon Spector, and Ja’Marcus Ingram for significant snaps. And yet, we still walked away with a 31–10 win, capped off by an Ingram pick-six.

"It's okay, we'll be fine... but have a little faith next time."

[finn]

2 hours ago, RunTheBall said:

I tend to agree with your overall summary of the McD defense, although to call them the worst in the league is a bit of hyperbole.

 

I only say that because they're currently the worst defense in the league in both yards and points. Not sure what other metric to use. Quality of post-game interviews? 

2 hours ago, abc said:

A lose-lose proposition….except they keep beating Baltimore. 

No contest on that one, although one could argue Allen and the offense had something to do with that, at least this last game. 

[DaVinci]

On my way to NYC. Jets, hold the Sauce. Jets secondary is vanquished. Josh Allen = 400 yards easy

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Consequences of having a defense full of smaller, faster guys. I think that’s what it comes down to. This is why depth is crucial in a McDermott defense. 

Then get bigger guys.  

[Big Turk]

The Bills have Josh Allen and the Jets don't. End of story.

[boyst]

13 minutes ago, DaVinci said:

On my way to NYC. Jets, hold the Sauce. Jets secondary is vanquished. Josh Allen = 400 yards easy

Sauce and hold go perfectly together 

[DaVinci]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

Sauce and hold go perfectly together 

Hahahaha

[Coach Tuesday]

This would be a great week for Bosa to step up, if he’s healthy and comfortable as it appears.  Early season is when I expect him to shine.

[Rockinon]

24 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

This would be a great week for Bosa to step up, if he’s healthy and comfortable as it appears.  Early season is when I expect him to shine.

I'd like to see the young new Dlinemen to show some promise. Good opportunity for them to step up with Oliver out. I would hope that all of the off season focus on upgrading the defense begins to payoff, especially the young additions.

[Tanoros]

1 hour ago, finn said:

I only say that because they're currently the worst defense in the league in both yards and points. Not sure what other metric to use. Quality of post-game interviews? 

No contest on that one, although one could argue Allen and the offense had something to do with that, at least this last game. 

Context is always important to recognize and one week is not enough information to determine who is and isn’t the best defense or offense in the NFL this season. Because of the lack of data, the best thing we can do is draw from how we have faired in the past, that offers more context then one game against a very good team. Think of the Saints after two weeks last year, one of the best offenses and that didn’t last. Going off the data without enough context is little better than a random guess. 
 

Historically, our defense is a really good regular season defense, but also struggles against these power running type of teams. However, Fields isn’t Lamar and I believe our defense comes out looking a lot better this week. 

[Rockinon]

Listening to T. Johnson interview, it sounds like he'll be ready to go Sunday.  Encouraging. Tre White is staying mum about starting in his interview. Have no Idea if he's playing. Excited to see how TJ Sanders looks filling in for Ed.

[IBTG81]

2 hours ago, finn said:

I only say that because they're currently the worst defense in the league in both yards and points. Not sure what other metric to use. Quality of post-game interviews? 

No contest on that one, although one could argue Allen and the offense had something to do with that, at least this last game. 

Uhhhhh, Baltimore gave up more points. Argument is invalid.