Gregg Posted Wednesday at 01:47 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:47 PM With the secondary the way it is I think we all know what the Bills will be doing with their 1st Rd pick in the 2026 draft. Quote
BillsPride12 Posted Wednesday at 01:47 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:47 PM Just now, JP51 said: This is exactly what this is to me... Poyer looked cooked... but then again, Hamlin and Bishop combined for some really burnt toast ... this is insurance... and could it be that his ceiling is literally no worse than Hamlin right now? Definitely. Even though they are just bringing him in for the practice squad why did they wait to make this move until after training camp/preseason is over? I really think they are more behind at the safety position than they were anticipating this year. Hoping for the best but makes me nervous this season we see more of the same issues as last year Quote
Mango Posted Wednesday at 01:47 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:47 PM (edited) 19 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: I dunno why people are acting like the sky is falling. He meets several needs from a backup. Cheap. Able to learn our system (knows it). System fit. Locker room leader. I dunno many teams with no dropoff for backup players, they aren't supposed to be world beaters. Our system seems to value smart players more than someone negligibly more athletic (again, backup pool were picking from). Jordan can hold down the fort in a game here or there better than anybody else we can pick up at this point. Its not earth shattering breaking news, we got a high floor backup... cool. Let's move on This! And more than anything this is a condemnation on the FO work on addressing the secondary the last 6 months. I am no film guru like some, but I cannot think of another S on the market, that keeps us under the cap, and can be ready in 10 days if something goes wrong. It is a fine signing that had to be made because of mistakes made 150 days ago. It is very strange that we have at some point this FO has done good job of identifying guys like Poyer, Hyde, Jordan Philips. Guys who can fill important roles in this defense that are under the radar. But then struggle with it going forward ever since. The inability to replace Poyer/Hyde with a complete pairing has really put our entire secondary on the backs of Taron Johnson and now Christian Benford. Edited Wednesday at 01:48 PM by Mango 1 Quote
T.E. Posted Wednesday at 01:48 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:48 PM Just now, Wraith said: It's really not that different than the players that transition into coaching. I agree, but why not just put him on the coaching staff then? Quote
bills6969 Posted Wednesday at 01:48 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:48 PM 1 minute ago, Gregg said: With the secondary the way it is I think we all know what the Bills will be doing with their 1st Rd pick in the 2026 draft. Tank for Downs 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted Wednesday at 01:48 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:48 PM 2 minutes ago, Walking Tall said: Yeah, it’s dumb. How much did Micah Hyde help last season? I saw no uptick in safety play last season after Hyde was signed to the PS. We have coaches. We need talent. We don’t need washed up has-been’s. It sucks saying that because we all loved Poyer. Hyde was still over coming injury that was probably career ending. I’ll take what Poyer currently is on the field over Hamlin. Hamlin never had juice, Poyer just doesnt have the same juice. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM Just now, T.E. said: I agree, but why not just put him on the coaching staff then? they already have like 3 guys dedicated to coaching the secondary. He is here to play. 2 Quote
WotAGuy Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM Poyer will start the second half of the second game after Hamlin and Bishop run into each other and put themselves in concussion protocol. You heard it here first. 1 2 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted Wednesday at 01:52 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:52 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Definitely. Even though they are just bringing him in for the practice squad why did they wait to make this move until after training camp/preseason is over? I really think they are more behind at the safety position than they were anticipating this year. Hoping for the best but makes me nervous this season we see more of the same issues as last year Because he probably told the Bills that he didn't want to be in camp. Most long tooth vets hate camp. 4 minutes ago, T.E. said: I agree, but why not just put him on the coaching staff then? Because the max pay for practice squad is $25,000 per week... Poyer prorates to $450K for the season which is way more than a position coach makes. Edited Wednesday at 01:53 PM by Sierra Foothills 1 Quote
boyst Posted Wednesday at 01:52 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:52 PM 13 minutes ago, T.E. said: 13-year vets who are former All-Pros don't sign contracts with former teams to be on the practice squad all year and mentor younger players. If this was the intention, it would be unprecedented. .... Last year Hyde did just this. 2 1 Quote
T.E. Posted Wednesday at 01:52 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:52 PM 2 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: they already have like 3 guys dedicated to coaching the secondary. He is here to play. That's my point. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if he started Week One the way Hamlin and Bishop looked during the preseason. Quote
T.E. Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM Just now, boyst said: .... Last year Hyde did just this. Hyde was not on the practice squad anywhere close to a full season, actually. Quote
boyst Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM Just now, T.E. said: Hyde was not on the practice squad anywhere close to a full season, actually. Not the full year and I doubt Poyer is on the PS or active roster all year. Quote
PauleeeWalnuts Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM Man they are in a lot of trouble on the back end… Quote
Mat68 Posted Wednesday at 01:55 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:55 PM 3 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Definitely. Even though they are just bringing him in for the practice squad why did they wait to make this move until after training camp/preseason is over? I really think they are more behind at the safety position than they were anticipating this year. Hoping for the best but makes me nervous this season we see more of the same issues as last year Get in shape and elevate if an injury happens. I think Poyer passes Hamlin on the depth chart by October. 1 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted Wednesday at 01:56 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:56 PM 41 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: One thing is abundantly clear about McDermott: He will take decision-making over athleticism every time. Every time. McDermott wants the guy who reads and reacts correctly on every play. If he's a half-step getting to where he needs to be, McDermott will live with it. Ayahuasca is a great decision Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted Wednesday at 01:56 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:56 PM 2 minutes ago, T.E. said: That's my point. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if he started Week One the way Hamlin and Bishop looked during the preseason. Very unlikely. He needs more ramp up time after missing camp and preseason. 1 minute ago, T.E. said: Hyde was not on the practice squad anywhere close to a full season, actually. I already said to you that the only difference is the timing. Quote
stlbills13 Posted Wednesday at 01:56 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:56 PM Practice Squad AJ Klein Jerry Hughes Thurman Thomas Frank Gore Frank Gore Jr Stevie Johnson Jordan Phillips Jordan Poyer Jim Kelly Andre Reed Richie Incognito Bruce Smith LeSean McCoy 3 4 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Get in shape and elevate if an injury happens. I think Poyer passes Hamlin on the depth chart by October. I definitely hope this is the case. And even better I hope Hancock turns into be something special and is the third guy if one of the starters gets hurt. 1 Quote
Blainorama5 Posted Wednesday at 01:58 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:58 PM Phillips and Poyer as vet guys on your practice squad, I'll take that. NOT starters anymore, but both good temporary "break glass in case" guys! 3 2 Quote
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