WGR Discussing McD's job security

[PromoTheRobot]

[blitzboy54]

On 8/12/2025 at 9:41 AM, Gregg said:

 

Everybody sees it now. He’s weak, and stubborn. He will continue to fail in January 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

On 8/12/2025 at 12:18 PM, Buffalo Boy said:

Examples???

I am on him like stink on a pig for sucky big game coaching. I HATE losing

Why

Because that is the next step. 
What I , and others hate, is refusal to acknowledge he has failed in this area with out the plethora of repeated excuses. 
I don’t hate him and I literally haven’t seen anyone question his faith and wonder what it has to do with anything.

 

It's a classic deflection, they do that kind of thing in politics.

 

It's a "you just don't like him so this is slander" defense even when there is so much that is being presented specifically about the failures on his side of the ball, obviously most notably in January and that it's happened EVERY single season. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

On 8/11/2025 at 7:03 PM, Jauronimo said:

Playing scared would be abandoning the QB sneak, which was automatic all year, because it was stopped once.  We run any other play and get stopped and all offseason people will be screaming about not running the QB tush push and how thats a fireable offense for both Brady and McD.  

Exactly. Or it would’ve been the Pete Carroll situation allover again when fans/media crucified him for not going w/ the most obvious call, running the best power back in the NFL at the 1 yard line. McDermott went with the obvious & correct call. The officials didn’t do their job and spotted the ball incorrectly. It wasn’t even a debatable call like the Music City Miracle. With all the angles available, Refs could’ve easily pieced them altogether and determined a 1st down. 
 

But yeah. The Chiefs “wanted it more.” The Bills “deserved to lose.” 

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Exactly. Or it would’ve been the Pete Carroll situation allover again when fans/media crucified him for not going w/ the most obvious call, running the best power back in the NFL at the 1 yard line. McDermott went with the obvious & correct call. The officials didn’t do their job and spotted the ball incorrectly. It wasn’t even a debatable call like the Music City Miracle. With all the angles available, Refs could’ve easily pieced them altogether and determined a 1st down. 
 

But yeah. The Chiefs “wanted it more.” The Bills “deserved to lose.” 

I could give the officials a pass for one of those spots as I thought they were extremely close and I think they actually went with the spirit of the review rule. BUT, they consistently spotted us short all game leading to several 4th and shorts that shouldn't have happened, giving the Chiefs more opportunities to prepare, and the officials haven't been bothered with the "clear and obvious" criteria in years and frequently overturn calls over a blade of grass level of precision.  How do you not give us one of the tossups calls?

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

I could give the officials a pass for one of those spots as I thought they were extremely close and I think they actually went with the spirit of the review rule. BUT, they consistently spotted us short all game leading to several 4th and shorts that shouldn't have happened, giving the Chiefs more opportunities to prepare, and the officials haven't been bothered with the "clear and obvious" criteria in years and frequently overturn calls over a blade of grass level of precision.  How do you not give us one of the tossups calls?

 

I don't think replay got any of them wrong. None of them were clear and obvious mistakes to my eye. It comes down to officials spots on the field. That is where the error was. It's almost impossible to win those spot call challenges. 

[Royale with Cheese]

14 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

I could give the officials a pass for one of those spots as I thought they were extremely close and I think they actually went with the spirit of the review rule. BUT, they consistently spotted us short all game leading to several 4th and shorts that shouldn't have happened, giving the Chiefs more opportunities to prepare, and the officials haven't been bothered with the "clear and obvious" criteria in years and frequently overturn calls over a blade of grass level of precision.  How do you not give us one of the tossups calls?

 

I can agree about the spot calls but I still don't understand the Worthy/Bishop jump ball.  The ball clearly and I mean clearly hit the ground.  How did they rule that a catch after reviewing it?  That one still baffles me.

[Mat68]

He is approaching Dungy territory.  Difference Dungy had great defense and little to no offense in Tampa.  The Bills issues has been post season defense.  I would understand a move if Buffalo falls short again.  I said previously maybe in this tread.  I would try to work out a trade for Kyle Shanahan if neither team wins a Superbowl.  Pair Allen with an elite offensive mind with a good head coaching resume.  Im not going from Mcdermott to an upstart first time HC.  I mentioned after the Bengals loss that Sean Payton was the best available option and likely only easily available option in the foreseeable future. Elite offensive mind and Superbowl pedigree.  Tampa traded for Gruden.  Would Pegula consider something similar?  Beane would likely have to engineer something like that and that seems out of his nature.  Also, he seems completely aligned with Mcdermott.  It seems very unlikely imo.  

[GunnerBill]

32 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I can agree about the spot calls but I still don't understand the Worthy/Bishop jump ball.  The ball clearly and I mean clearly hit the ground.  How did they rule that a catch after reviewing it?  That one still baffles me.

 

Agree. That one was overturnable IMO.

[Augie]

42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I can agree about the spot calls but I still don't understand the Worthy/Bishop jump ball.  The ball clearly and I mean clearly hit the ground.  How did they rule that a catch after reviewing it?  That one still baffles me.

 

That is either an interception (my biased vote), or an incomplete pass, but they went with option #3. 

 

 

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Edited August 15 by Augie

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 hour ago, Jauronimo said:

I could give the officials a pass for one of those spots as I thought they were extremely close and I think they actually went with the spirit of the review rule. BUT, they consistently spotted us short all game leading to several 4th and shorts that shouldn't have happened, giving the Chiefs more opportunities to prepare, and the officials haven't been bothered with the "clear and obvious" criteria in years and frequently overturn calls over a blade of grass level of precision.  How do you not give us one of the tossups calls?

The 4th down sneak was the obvious one to me. There was an overhead angle where you can see the nose of the ball cross the line by very convincing margin. On such a crucial drive, IDK how the refs are able to make such a game defining call. Obviously, it doesn’t mean Buffalo automatically wins, but it increases their chances drastically. A Chiefs/Bills game is about as even as a matchup as you can possibly get in the NFL. All it takes is one bad call to completely sway a game in the other teams favor. Seems like the NFL is fine calling an even game in the regular season, but come playoff time the Chiefs almost always get lucky. Is Mahomes just that more clutch than Allen? 

[balln]

Just like the rashee rice suspension shenanigans. The nfl wants the chiefs on the TV. It’s just as simple as that. I don’t think during the game there is something intentionally happening. But there’s some kind of undercurrent of human bias where they end up on the right side of controversial calls more often than not