Mat68 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Bad things happen when you throw to Gabe Davis.. To my knowledge, Mack Hollins didn't fumble, have a dropped pass, or Josh didn't throw an INT when throwing his way. What happened when josh threw to Gabe? Sure some more explosiveness. But drops, fumbles and INTs when targeting him . Also, Mack was elite at special teams where Gabe doesn't play Davis is a significantly more prolific Wr. Would be brought in for the league minimum due to the guaranteed money from Jacksonville. Compete with Coleman and Palmer for playing time. Quote
Doc Brown Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, ElMarko said: .05% chance Davis is resigned by the Bills. Unless there's a camp injury - and he's still unsigned - its not going to happen. I wouldn't be so sure as Beane and McDermott have raved about his work ethic in the past. It does tell you something about Gabe though where the Jaguars purposefully decreased their 2025 cap room by about $13.8m just to get rid of him. 1 Quote
Shaw66 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Because he was paid as a high end 2 by the previous GM and coach. They drafted Hunter #2 to pair with Thomas Jr. With the money still owed Davis would be a league minimum signing. No risk move. Can do everything Hollins did last year but a better wr. If Coleman and Palmer emerge as significantly better it costs the same as any camp body. I dont understand the push back at all. Thanks. Great explanation. I appreciate it. Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted 18 hours ago Author Posted 18 hours ago 14 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: To my knowledge, Mack Hollins didn't fumble, have a dropped pass, or Josh didn't throw an INT when throwing his way Mack had 3 drops per PFR with a drop% of 6. and he only got open enough to get 50 targets. Gabe has almost 1000 more yards than Mack and 14 more TD’s despite playing 38 less games than him. I don’t think that the difference between Mack and Gabe is Jerry Rice-sized but they aren’t really comparable. Gabe was good enough to get a big contract in FA. Mack Hollins is on his 6th team. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said: Mack had 3 drops per PFR with a drop% of 6. and he only got open enough to get 50 targets. Gabe has almost 1000 more yards than Mack and 14 more TD’s despite playing 38 less games than him. I don’t think that the difference between Mack and Gabe is Jerry Rice-sized but they aren’t really comparable. Gabe was good enough to get a big contract in FA. Mack Hollins is on his 6th team. How many of the six interceptions were partly Mack's fault? Quote
Mat68 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Holins made some cutch catches, had a high football IQ, and was character that the fans really enjoyed There is not a single situation in which I would welcome Gabe Davis back to the Bills We were a better team minus Gabe Davis, and the players here already are better than Gabe Davis Thats hyperbole. Not counting his KC game (best clutch Bills wr game ever) Davis is a better playoff wr. Every wr has fumbled and drop passes. His success rate and catch % is within single digits to Hollins with significantly higher volume and more yards per catch. He didnt become TO after the 4 TD 200 yard playoff game. But he wouldn't be brought in as the number 1. He would add to the room and offers more actual NFL production then all the wrs not named Shakir in the room. Quote
BananaB Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, Cray51 said: I dont hate bringing him into camp and seeing what he can be. Similar to Dane Jackson, if you get 1 year of serviceable play, I'm not complaining I’m getting sick of bringing back guys the other teams cut. Edited 18 hours ago by BananaB Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted 18 hours ago Author Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: How many of the six interceptions were partly Mack's fault? Can’t get intercepted if they never throw you the ball. You guys may be right, but I doubt McD/Beane would have had such high praise about Gabe if he was constantly screwing things up. I think there’s a really decent chance he’s on the roster. I think they will disagree with the assessment that we are better off without him. I also think they will remember last year where Coleman, Cooper and Shakir all missed time. I think they would rather have Gabe step in to start than KJ Hamler. Quote
pennstate10 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: If that's true, he was the second beat wife out on the Jags. So why is he a free agent today? Anyone help me out here? I tried looking up beat wife on urban dictionary but none of the answers fit. Quote
djp14150 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Not brining up the issue of where he goes.... This seems like a dumb move by the jags Quote
BananaB Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Can’t get intercepted if they never throw you the ball. You guys may be right, but I doubt McD/Beane would have had such high praise about Gabe if he was constantly screwing things up. I think there’s a really decent chance he’s on the roster. I think they will disagree with the assessment that we are better off without him. I also think they will remember last year where Coleman, Cooper and Shakir all missed time. I think they would rather have Gabe step in to start than KJ Hamler. Gabe was more of a ghost then Mack once Joe Brady took over. Quote
DCofNC Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Krakensabres said: If he is a league minimum ( suggested given that he already has a high pay from his jags team that gives him no financial motivation to get a bigger deal just like Russell Wilson did - Greg from cover 1 posted on this ) then bring him in if he doesn’t make the team doesn’t make the team Barring injury it doesn’t make sense for either party. The Bills cannot hold back progress from Coleman for a guy whose ceiling is a #3. That’s the primary role he would be competing for. Shakir is the lead dog, you paid 12M for Palmer so he’s getting his, Coleman is second year after being their first pick last year, Samuel is the jack knife guy, Moore is a better player with more speed than Davis, so really, he’s got no place on the active roster without displacing a guy they have to give reps to. Even then, he’s at best the 4th option. Quote
Shaw66 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Who's beating wives? Tyreek, is that you? auto correct! 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I don't understand how Davis is blamed for every Allen poor decision. Allen improved his decision making. Why would Davis impact that? For a minimum vet free agent signed in May Davis would offer the most upside and odds of succeeding. All it took was for the Jaguars to cut Davis and suddenly Buffalo has the best wr room in the NFL 😂😂😂 Edited 17 hours ago by Mat68 Quote
NickelCity Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Thats hyperbole. Not counting his KC game (best clutch Bills wr game ever) Davis is a better playoff wr. Every wr has fumbled and drop passes. His success rate and catch % is within single digits to Hollins with significantly higher volume and more yards per catch. He didnt become TO after the 4 TD 200 yard playoff game. But he wouldn't be brought in as the number 1. He would add to the room and offers more actual NFL production then all the wrs not named Shakir in the room. Gabe Davis is probably the biggest example of addition by subtraction than I can remember on the Bills. We are better without him on the field. Quote
HappyDays Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, MasterStrategist said: He's not really a fit for what we're trying to be in the WR room --- "positionless". But he'd be our best blocking WR and a downfield threat still- at $6m or less its worth a shot It won't even be that expensive. I wouldn't be surprised if a team throws a 7th at Jacksonville before he's officially released at 4PM today. The trading team would only be on the hook for $1.5M. If he doesn't get traded, it will probably cost around the same. He's still rehabbing a knee injury and teams mostly have their rosters set at this point. 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago The drops were horrible, but that miscommunication against the Eagles sealed Gabe’s fate with Buffalo. I think we need to move on from these old retreads. I wouldn’t want Diggs back either even if he was on his best behavior. I love the current direction the offense is going. Quote
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 3 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Kind of surprised how many are so strongly opposed to bringing him in. Fits Hollins’ role well. Blocker. Field stretcher. Outside WR. Excelled in a WR4 role. Some element of familiarity with OBD and JA17. Does not affect comp pick formula. Would it be a bad thing to have six solid WRs? Samuel, Coleman, and Kincaid were each injured last year. I don't really want anyone to fill the "Hollins role". We should be shooting for better WRs than Hollins or Davis. They drafted a blocking TE that can block and not catch more than 2 passes per game. That fills the "Hollins Role". Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted 17 hours ago Author Posted 17 hours ago 15 minutes ago, BananaB said: Gabe was more of a ghost then Mack once Joe Brady took over. Last 6 games of 2023 (including when he was hurt), he was on a 34 catches for 725 yards and 6 TD pace. Quote
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