DrDawkinstein Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Haha, good on Jeremy. I usually like the morning show, but I also understood why Beane put them in their place. 1 5 Quote
Mister Defense Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 55 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I asked earlier in the WR thread and earlier in this thread, how would the Beane critics feel if Coleman, Kincaid, Palmer and Shakir all had 800 yards next season. Would that still be the worst WR group in the NFL? Absolutely not, I can guarantee that. You are waaaaayyy off... It would be one of the worst groups of wide receivers to ever play in the NFL, historically awful, pathetic, dismal, and they would despise Beane even more. (Yes, that is possible somehow.) And this despite the Bills' offense again being one of the best offenses in the NFL, maybe the best again, even if they break all the Bills' and NFL records they broke last year, and even if Josh wins the NFL MVP again. They will still be outraged, furious. And calling for Beane's head, of course. (And a significant part of their reaction, as predicted above, is sadly not even exaggeration.) Edited 12 hours ago by Mister Defense Quote
Doc Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, boyst said: Locks: Coleman Samuel Shakir Palmer Likely: Shenault (can return) Possibly: Moore Virgil Bubble: The rest. Moore is a lock. As for Shenault, I looked it up and Codrington played just 69 snaps on defense last year, only in the regular season, mostly in the final 2 games (and in the 2nd half of both, when the game was out of reach against the Jets and they didn't care against the Patriots). I'd say Shenault offers more at WR and returner than Codrington offers at CB and returner. The only thing is Shenault hasn't returned punts in his career and may have to prove he can also do it. Edited 12 hours ago by Doc 2 1 Quote
Old Coot Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 42 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This route tree is very interesting. Where do I find them for the other Bills' receivers? Quote
Doc Brown Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 27 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: To some yes. They are too into fantasy football. What if all 5 (inc Moore) had those stats? Then add in what RB's, Knox etal also do. Bills WR's/TE's in fantasy is what Patriot RB's used to be. Put up good numbers as a group but you can't start one of them unless you're desperate. 2 Quote
gregmo Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 hours ago, The Wiz said: Should have clarified. Bottom to top. 😆 Versatile is good when needed. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: yea not concerned about the comp picks anyway. Sign him please There would be no comp picks coming our way next year even if we hadn't signed Moore. The only player we lost that could be compensated was Mack Hollins. That was cancelled out five times over by any one of Bosa, Palmer, Hoecht, Ogunjobi, or White. Teams could sign Amari Cooper, Von Miller, and Rasul Douglas between now and the time the Comp clock is up. We still wouldn't get anything. 1 1 Quote
muppy Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: Yep for sure Since we have have that in spades ! well .... our long nightmare of not having won a Lombardi trophy yet has yet to be over. I Think that is what you were thinking. Am I right? I cannot dwell on past failures. Its draining and boring lol m Quote
nedboy7 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: and we Drated one and signed2 UDFA’s. Did you want is to use our 1st pick?😳 I think it was a really good draft. I would have liked them to draft a WR in the 4th. But I get the decision and I’m ok with the WR group we have. I think it’s a definite improvement over last years group which still produced at an elite level. 1 1 Quote
Bockeye Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 46 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: On 97 targets? That's terrible efficiency. Or terrible QB’ng? Quote
Redblood Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 39 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Jeremy White right now... Lol. Yep Quote
Redblood Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Doc said: Moore is a lock. As for Shenault, I looked it up and Codrington played just 69 snaps on defense last year, only in the regular season, mostly in the final 2 games (and mostly in the 2nd half of both, when the game was out of reach against the Jets and they didn't care against the Patriots). I'd say Shenault offers more WR and returner than Codrington offers as a CB and returner. The only thing is Shenault hasn't returned punts in his career and may have to prove he can also do it. Shenault is an interesting pickup. I think he has great talent Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Not surprised considering who was throwinh at him Quote
ROCBillsBeliever Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, Redblood said: Word is that coleman has added muscle this yr. Maybe he can be stronger on contested balls Okay, that's all fine and well, but did he strengthen his wrists, to avoid injury? I want to see Coleman rolling up to camp looking like this: Quote
Doc Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Redblood said: Shenault is an interesting pickup. I think he has great talent I think his talent was greatest in college. In the pros he's more of a Mack Hollins type who can return kicks and can hopefully return punts (or someone else with value at another position can do it). 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Bockeye said: Or terrible QB’ng? True. He doesn't have the largest catch radius and that's a huge problem for a QB like Winston or DTR who couldn't hit water if they fell off a boat. 1 1 Quote
Doc Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, ROCBillsBeliever said: Okay, that's all fine and well, but did he strengthen his wrists, to avoid injury? I want to see Coleman rolling up to camp looking like this: Not sure many players' wrists are surviving direct helmet shot like Poyer laid on Coleman. 2 Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Could the Bills have 5 pass catchers with 50+ receptions next year??? Coleman, Shakir, Palmer, Moore, Kincaid Thing is…. I think it’s possible but don’t know if any will have over 75. Quote
ROCBillsBeliever Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, Doc said: Not sure many players' wrists are surviving direct helmet shot like Poyer laid on Coleman. I was being silly 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Could the Bills have 5 pass catchers with 50+ receptions next year??? Coleman, Shakir, Palmer, Moore, Kincaid Thing is…. I think it’s possible but don’t know if any will have over 75. 50 is a bit much. They could all hit 35-40 each though I’d say depends what happens over the summer. a few may separate themselves as earning much higher snap % 1 Quote
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