Elijah Moore Visiting the Bills today (Update: Signed!)

[boyst]

1 hour ago, FLFan said:

I agree - very different players but playing a very similar role, minus the special teams.  Had Coleman continued to improve after his injury, Hollins role on the field would have been continually reduced.  He took on more than his share because Coleman hit a wall.   He is a more talented player than Hollins.  He will be expected to start living up to his draft position this year.  Who will pick up Hollins ST role is a more apt question.  It’s a big challenge for the young man but it is now or never.  

Colemans floor is Hollins career.  8 years of play by Hollins has been quite good at times. 

[PromoTheRobot]

Jeremy White right now...

[Redblood]

Got him!

On a side note, hate that we lost Hollins

[Mister Defense]

A 2nd round pick  in the 2021 draft

 

34th player taken in that draft

 

Has played for one of the most dysfunctional offenses in the NFL since drafted.

 

4.35 speed, "roadrunner speed" as seen above. Beep, Beep! , as Steve Spagnola tries to stop him... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iWvedIhWjM

 

Nice move, with big upside.

 

Beane is the man, will be the NFL executive of the year this year.

 

 

[BillsFanForever19]

6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Jeremy White right now...

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

 

 

Haha, good on Jeremy. I usually like the morning show, but I also understood why Beane put them in their place.

[Mister Defense]

55 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

I asked earlier in the WR thread and earlier in this thread, how would the Beane critics feel if Coleman, Kincaid, Palmer and Shakir all had 800 yards next season.  Would that still be the worst WR group in the NFL?   

 

 

 

Absolutely not, I can guarantee that.  You are waaaaayyy off...

 

It would be one of the worst groups of wide receivers to ever play in the NFL, historically awful, pathetic, dismal, and they would despise Beane even more. (Yes, that is possible somehow.)

 

And this despite the Bills' offense again being one of the best offenses in the NFL, maybe the best again, even if they break all the Bills' and NFL records they broke last year, and even if Josh wins the NFL MVP again. They will still be outraged, furious. 

 

And calling for Beane's head, of course.

 

(And a significant part of their reaction, as predicted above, is sadly not even exaggeration.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Mister Defense

[Doc]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

Locks:

Coleman

Samuel

Shakir

Palmer

 

Likely:

Shenault (can return)

 

Possibly:

Moore

Virgil

 

Bubble:

The rest. 

 

Moore is a lock.

 

As for Shenault, I looked it up and Codrington played just 69 snaps on defense last year, only in the regular season, mostly in the final 2 games (and in the 2nd half of both, when the game was out of reach against the Jets and they didn't care against the Patriots).  I'd say Shenault offers more at WR and returner than Codrington offers at CB and returner.  The only thing is Shenault hasn't returned punts in his career and may have to prove he can also do it.

Edited 9 hours ago by Doc

[Old Coot]

42 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

This route tree is very interesting. Where do I find them for the other Bills' receivers?

 

[Doc Brown]

27 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

To some yes.  They are too into fantasy football.  What if all 5 (inc Moore) had those stats?  Then add in what RB's, Knox etal also do.

Bills WR's/TE's in fantasy is what Patriot RB's used to be.  Put up good numbers as a group but you can't start one of them unless you're desperate.  

[BillsFanForever19]

8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

yea not concerned about the comp picks anyway. Sign him please

 

There would be no comp picks coming our way next year even if we hadn't signed Moore.

 

The only player we lost that could be compensated was Mack Hollins. That was cancelled out five times over by any one of Bosa, Palmer, Hoecht, Ogunjobi, or White. Teams could sign Amari Cooper, Von Miller, and Rasul Douglas between now and the time the Comp clock is up. We still wouldn't get anything.  

[Bockeye]

46 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

On 97 targets?  That's terrible efficiency. 

Or terrible QB’ng?

[Redblood]

39 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Jeremy White right now...

Lol. Yep

[Warriorspikes51]

 

[Redblood]

22 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Moore is a lock.

 

As for Shenault, I looked it up and Codrington played just 69 snaps on defense last year, only in the regular season, mostly in the final 2 games (and mostly in the 2nd half of both, when the game was out of reach against the Jets and they didn't care against the Patriots).  I'd say Shenault offers more WR and returner than Codrington offers as a CB and returner.  The only thing is Shenault hasn't returned punts in his career and may have to prove he can also do it.

Shenault is an interesting pickup. I think he has great talent

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Not surprised considering who was throwinh at him

[ROCBillsBeliever]

2 hours ago, Redblood said:

Word is that coleman has added muscle this yr. Maybe he can be stronger on contested balls

 

Okay, that's all fine and well, but did he strengthen his wrists, to avoid injury?

 

I want to see Coleman rolling up to camp looking like this:

 

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Redblood said:

Shenault is an interesting pickup. I think he has great talent

 

I think his talent was greatest in college.  In the pros he's more of a Mack Hollins type who can return kicks and can hopefully return punts (or someone else with value at another position can do it).

[Doc Brown]

5 minutes ago, Bockeye said:

Or terrible QB’ng?

True.  He doesn't have the largest catch radius and that's a huge problem for a QB like Winston or DTR who couldn't hit water if they fell off a boat.

[Doc]

 

Just now, ROCBillsBeliever said:

Okay, that's all fine and well, but did he strengthen his wrists, to avoid injury?

 

I want to see Coleman rolling up to camp looking like this:

 

 

Not sure many players' wrists are surviving direct helmet shot like Poyer laid on Coleman.

[CEN-CAL17]

Could the Bills have 5 pass catchers with 50+ receptions next year???

 

Coleman, Shakir, Palmer, Moore, Kincaid

 

Thing is…. I think it’s possible but don’t know if any will have over 75.